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Games thread- (RV) MEN'S bball on the road @ Washington (Wed.,1/24, 9:00 PM MT; ESPNU) WSU (Sat., 3:00 PM; Pac 12) & Utah (Sat., 2/3, 3:00 PM; Pac 12)

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Men's basketball (14-3 overall; 5-3 in Pac 12 play) have the opportunity to erase not great memories from its last road trip as they once again head out of Boulder for a 3 game stretch. 1st off is a trip to the Pacific Northwest where they'll 1st face off against the Washington Huskies (11-8, 3-5) this coming Wednesday night, after which they head to Pullman to face the WSU Cougars (13-6, 4-4) Saturday in the 1st of 2 straight 3:00 PM (MT) matinees. Then, it's a 1 game week as they head to Salt Lake City the next Saturday (2/11) to face the Utah Utes (14-5, 5-3).

Wednesday's game is scheduled to be shown on ESPNU, while the 2 Saturday games are both slotted to be shown on one or more Pac 12 channels. (Further info and links for media options available near the bottom of this post.)

Note- In the NET Rankngs as I type this (for games through 1/20/24), the Buffs are at #34, while the Huskies are #75, Cougars #53 and Utes #21.

Go Buffs!!!

(Preview(s) not available as I type this.)
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Links with more info on the upcoming opponents:

Washington :
Roster - https://gohuskies.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster
Stats - https://gohuskies.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2023-24
Schedule - https://gohuskies.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule
Their preview article - https://gohuskies.com/news/2024/1/22/mens-basketball-uw-returns-home-for-trio-of-games.aspx

WSU :
Roster - https://wsucougars.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster
Stats - https://wsucougars.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats
Schedule - https://wsucougars.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule
Their preview article - Not available as I type this.

Utah :
Roster - https://utahutes.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster
Stats - https://utahutes.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2023-24
Schedule - https://utahutes.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule
Their preview article - Not available as I type this.

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Media links:

Live video (If for any reason the below ESPN link doesn't work, access to all ESPN streams can be found at https://www.espn.com/watch/ .):
Vs. Washington - Game is scheduled to be shown on ESPNU. For anyone with a subscription that includes access to that channel, I assume it will also be viewable on the ESPN app and/ or at https://www.espn.com/watch/player/_/id/fcc0ef85-60d4-4b74-a890-8fe76018ba79 .
Vs. WSU - Game is scheduled to be shown on the Pac 12 National, Mountain and Washington channels. For anyone with a subscription to any service that includes access to any Pac 12 Network channel, I'm guessing the game will also be viewable on the Pac 12 App, or through a link at https://pac-12.com/mens-basketball/event/2024/01/27/colorado-washington-state .
Vs. Utah -Game is scheduled to be shown on the Pac 12 National and Mountain channels. For anyone with a subscription to any service that includes access to any Pac 12 Network channel, I'm guessing the game will also be viewable on the Pac 12 App, or through a link at https://pac-12.com/mens-basketball/event/2024/02/03/colorado-utah .

Live audio - The games will usually be available on 850 AM and 94.1 FM in the Denver/ Boulder area and maybe other stations in the Buff radio network. In addition, free audio streams for the games will be available at:
Vs. Washington (Pre-game coverage should begin at 8:30 PM MT) - https://cubuffs.com/watch/?Live=2893&type=Live
Vs. WSU (Pre-game coverage should begin at 2:30 PM MT) - https://cubuffs.com/watch/?Live=2895&type=Live
Vs. Utah (Pre-game coverage should begin at 2:30 PM MT) - https://cubuffs.com/watch/?Live=2901&type=Live

Link to link to live stats (All games) - http://www.statbroadcast.com/events/statmonitr.php?gid=colo
For specific games (If blank, not available as I type this.):
Washington - https://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=498946
WSU - https://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=488747&vislive=colo
Utah - https://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=495312&vislive=colo

Game notes: (Note- Left empty for games that don't have any as I type this.)
Vs. Washington - https://cubuffs.com/documents/2024/1/23/CU_Game_Notes_at_Washington.pdf
Vs. WSU -
Vs. Utah - https://cubuffs.com/documents/2024/2/2/CU_Game_Notes_at_Utah.pdf
 
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I don't want to go almost three weeks without a home game. This is not hokiehead approved.
 
Da Lama said:
We have to go at least 2-3 on this road trip. It's not hyperbole to say if we drop all three this season is essentially over.
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This team does have the potential to win the conference tournament, but that is an awful lot of pressure to put yourself in
 
Da Lama said:
2 out of 3.
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3 losses this week doesn't end the season, assuming the focus is now just to get to the Tournament. This road trip is 3 games against the 3rd, 4th, and 6th best teams in the Pac-12, by efficiency rating. Demanding them to win 2 of those games is... aggressive. That would've been more the attitude on the Zona/Cal swing. ('But Ben, they lost to both Cal and ASU' -- yep, very aware).

My focus is on OSU and UCLA -- 2 worst teams in the league. Beat them, you still have options if you hold serve at home. Anything beyond that is a bonus, and helps give you cushion to drop a home date to either Utah or Zona.

I'd *like* to see at least one win in Washington, essentially just to prove we can. But history and profile make that seem unlikely.

We're losing @ Utah by 20+ -- don't spend too much time thinking about it.

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RumblinBuff said:
3 losses this week doesn't end the season, assuming the focus is now just to get to the Tournament. This road trip is 3 games against the 3rd, 4th, and 6th best teams in the Pac-12, by efficiency rating. Demanding them to win 2 of those games is... aggressive. That would've been more the attitude on the Zona/Cal swing. ('But Ben, they lost to both Cal and ASU' -- yep, very aware).

My focus is on OSU and UCLA -- 2 worst teams in the league. Beat them, you still have options if you hold serve at home. Anything beyond that is a bonus, and helps give you cushion to drop a home date to either Utah or Zona.

I'd *like* to see at least one win in Washington, essentially just to prove we can. But history and profile make that seem unlikely.

We're losing @ Utah by 20+ -- don't spend too much time thinking about it.

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what happened to UCLA? I know they had some huge pieces graduate, but I fully expected Cronin to reload.
 
RumblinBuff said:
3 losses this week doesn't end the season, assuming the focus is now just to get to the Tournament. This road trip is 3 games against the 3rd, 4th, and 6th best teams in the Pac-12, by efficiency rating. Demanding them to win 2 of those games is... aggressive. That would've been more the attitude on the Zona/Cal swing. ('But Ben, they lost to both Cal and ASU' -- yep, very aware).

My focus is on OSU and UCLA -- 2 worst teams in the league. Beat them, you still have options if you hold serve at home. Anything beyond that is a bonus, and helps give you cushion to drop a home date to either Utah or Zona.

I'd *like* to see at least one win in Washington, essentially just to prove we can. But history and profile make that seem unlikely.

We're losing @ Utah by 20+ -- don't spend too much time thinking about it.

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Couldn't agree more, Utah is also undefeated at home this year a lot of those dominant.

Washington only with two losses at home all year 1 early season to a good Nevada team by 7 and 1 to Oregon by 2 points.

WSU only with 1 so far to Oregon as well by 5.

This is a tough 3 game swing. Hoping for 1.
 
Heywood said:
what happened to UCLA? I know they had some huge pieces graduate, but I fully expected Cronin to reload.
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They decided to reload with freshmen without bringing in any impact transfers.

I don't know if that's what Cronin wanted to do or if there were NIL limitations.
 
RumblinBuff said:
3 losses this week doesn't end the season, assuming the focus is now just to get to the Tournament. This road trip is 3 games against the 3rd, 4th, and 6th best teams in the Pac-12, by efficiency rating. Demanding them to win 2 of those games is... aggressive. That would've been more the attitude on the Zona/Cal swing. ('But Ben, they lost to both Cal and ASU' -- yep, very aware).

My focus is on OSU and UCLA -- 2 worst teams in the league. Beat them, you still have options if you hold serve at home. Anything beyond that is a bonus, and helps give you cushion to drop a home date to either Utah or Zona.

I'd *like* to see at least one win in Washington, essentially just to prove we can. But history and profile make that seem unlikely.

We're losing @ Utah by 20+ -- don't spend too much time thinking about it.

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I disagree. I think 0-3 on this trip and there's a very good chance we go into the Pac12 tournament at 20-12 and are playing on Day 1. Say we win one and lose one in the tournament and we're 21-13 in a conference that's widely perceived to be very down this year when the committee starts making its decisions. If that's the case I don't even think we're in the conversation of last 4 out. I truly believe this trip determines the season.
 
Lot of people overvaluing Utah in this thread. Let's see how Carlson does with Cody guarding him.
 
Like @RumblinBuff said, if the Buffs go 0-3 on this road trip then they will have to beat Arizona or Utah or both at home to bolster their resume. If they can win a game that gives the season more upside. I agree with others, looking at each game in isolation we should expect them to lose (this will lead to healthier behavior in the game threads).

Worst case scenario, there are only 2 teams from the PAC that dance. Arizona is in, so we are competing against Oregon and Utah for that second spot.
 
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Heywood said:
what happened to UCLA? I know they had some huge pieces graduate, but I fully expected Cronin to reload.
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My understanding is two-fold. 1) That program was being held together by Tyger, Jacquez, and duct tape, 2) Cronin, like others, has struggled to capitalize on the new NIL-based reality.
 
RumblinBuff said:
My understanding is two-fold. 1) That program was being held together by Tyger, Jacquez, and duct tape, 2) Cronin, like others, has struggled to capitalize on the new NIL-based reality.
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Not your intention I know, but I think this undersells how terrific a college player Jacquez was. And just because I want to brag on the Nuggets, Peyton Watson could have been a junior on this year's UCLA team, but instead is the most important bench guy on an NBA title contender.
 
Da Lama said:
I disagree. I think 0-3 on this trip and there's a very good chance we go into the Pac12 tournament at 20-12 and are playing on Day 1. Say we win one and lose one in the tournament and we're 21-13 in a conference that's widely perceived to be very down this year when the committee starts making its decisions. If that's the case I don't even think we're in the conversation of last 4 out. I truly believe this trip determines the season.
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Sure, I get it. I'm just going off projections, but the numbers say we'd be on the cutline, with the Zona return deciding things, if we leave Vegas with just the 2 true road wins. Now, that's based on percentages, metrics, and ratios, compared against the same for the rest of the country; not real-world shenanigans. Lots of things will change. But, in my mind, it is a fair way to interpret the current situation.

I would say, I've never seen anything that makes me think any of the proceeding committees looked at something as simple as "well, we only can take x number of teams from this conference based on the league's profile" rather than considering the teams individually. In the scenario discussed, we'd have a true bubble profile. Bubble teams are *always* #NotGood.
 
torero said:
Not your intention I know, but I think this undersells how terrific a college player Jacquez was. And just because I want to brag on the Nuggets, Peyton Watson could have been a junior on this year's UCLA team, but instead is the most important bench guy on an NBA title contender.
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For Mick's purposes, I think the emphasis is more on Tyger. He'd kill to have a veteran point with some steel in his spine right now. Like, seriously, I think he's got a knife set aside in a special room for the purpose of fighting for one.
 
RumblinBuff said:
My understanding is two-fold. 1) That program was being held together by Tyger, Jacquez, and duct tape, 2) Cronin, like others, has struggled to capitalize on the new NIL-based reality.
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Always had a close eye on UCLA as my dad went there.

I know Cronin is old school (I really like him and every interview I've heard just seems like a great guy), but of all the schools to thrive in NIL era you'd like an LA brand with the history of UCLA in college basketball would thrive. Not to mention all the uber successful grad's that schools produced but they haven't figured it out yet. He took so much pride in having zero roster turnover during the first big year of transfer portal. Cronin is a recruit and develop guy. Only 2 losing seasons in 20 years of coaching and 14 20 win years. 3 30 win years, they won't be down long.

I was surprised though with this rebuild though because Jaime could have left after his junior year as well so you'd think they'd be prepared from a recruitment perspective.

They also expected Dylan Andrews ( was a top 50 recruit) to make a huge sophomore jump UCLA guards always do after a year of understudy under Tyger and he has struggled mightily and can't shoot the 3.

Regardless anytime you lost your entire top 5 it's going to be tough. I think secretly he was hoping that Jaylen Clark and Amari Bailey would be back this year but neither did. Jaylen blew up last year pre injury and Amari came on real strong but early in the year looked like he'd run in back as a soph.

Long story short I think all of the wrong things happened. This year 2 of there best frosh weren't cleared until after start of season (Berke) or just before Aday Mara so neither went on trip over summer either. They have 11 rotation players that are fresh or sophomore because a lot of high profile juniors and seniors didn't want to site behind Jacquez, Campbell, Clark, etc. They are starting to play a lot better the last two weeks.

Truly think it was a perfect storm, they've only got 1 high school recruit signed so guessing that's a sign they are going transfer route this year. Also, Mick went 10-10 in the first 20 games his first season at UCLA and everyone was freaking out- they ended 19-12 and this was the year before they went on that run to the final 4. They are playing their best basketball of the year finding their identity and just lost to AZ on the road by 6 after leading the entire game until 5 to go in the second half after winning 2 straight. They are going to be a tough out by years end.
 
Preview for tomorrow's game - https://cubuffs.com/news/2024/1/23/...three-game-road-swing-at-washington-wednesday

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Buffs Begin Three-Game Road Swing At Washington Wednesday​

By: Troy Andre, Associate Director/Athletic Communications

Game 20 - Washington, Wednesday, Jan. 24, 2024
Alaska Airlines Arena, Seattle, Wash.
Tip: 9:05 p.m. MT
TV: ESPNU (Dave Feldman, Corey Williams)
Watch Online: WatchESPN
Radio: KOA 850 AM & 94.1 FM (Mark Johnson, Scott Wilke)
Satellite: Sirius XM 383 & SXM App (973)
Listen Online: CUBuffs.com
Live Statistics:https://statb.us/v/colo/498946

THE BUFFALOES: Colorado is 14-5 overall and 5-3 in the Pac-12 Conference, just one-half game out of first place in a crowded league race that reaches the mid-point for most teams this week. The top six teams in the Pac-12 are separated by that one-half game, either at 5-2 or 5-3.

Colorado has won three-straight after a home sweep of Oregon and Oregon State last week. The Buffaloes knocked off the Ducks, who had been previously unbeaten in league play, 86-70 on Jan. 18. Colorado followed that up with its largest margin of victory on the season with a 90-57 decision over Oregon State on Jan. 20.

The Buffaloes improved to a perfect 12-0 at the CU Events Center, their best start to a season at home since the 1968-69 Big Eight Championship team won all 12 of its games in that title season. That team played its games in Balch Fieldhouse, so the current start is the best ever at the CU Events Center. In terms of overall home win streaks, it's the longest since another 12-game run that spanned two seasons, from Feb. 2 to Dec. 4, 2019. Colorado's win over USC on Jan. 13 was the 500th at the facility in program history.

The challenge ahead for the Buffaloes is to build on those successes out on the road; embarking on their second three-game road trip during this conference season. Colorado will be looking to end a five-games skid in true road games dating back to last year. Three of those five losses have come against ranked teams. Three of Colorado's four true road losses this year have been decided by five points or less.
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ABOUT THE HUSKIES: Washington is 11-8 overall and 3-5 in the Pac-12 after a road-split in the Bay Area last week, thanks to a last-second 3-pointer by Moses Wood that gave the Huskies a 77-75 win at California. Washington returns from a three-game road trip of its own to Alaska Airlines Arena where the Huskies are 8-2 this year. Washington averages 80.3 points per game, ranking third in the Pac-12 right behind Colorado. Defensively, the Huskies give up 75.8 points per game. In eight conference games, Washington has allowed 77.6 points while opponents are shooting 47 percent from the field and 40 percent from 3-point range.

Graduate senior Keion Brooks Jr. is the second-leading scorer in the Pac-12 at 20.2 points per game. He also tops the Huskies in rebounding (7.3 rpg) and free throws made and attempted (90-118, .763). Graduate senior guard Sahvir Wheeler is second in the Pac-12 in assists at 5.9 per game. Wheeler is second on the team in scoring (16.1 ppg) and steals (19). Forward Moses Wood averages 11.5 points and 4.7 rebounds per game while leading the Huskies in 3-pointers made with 42.

THE SERIES: This will be the 38th meeting between Colorado and Washington with the Huskies holding a 21-16 advantage. The Buffaloes have won the last two, including a 73-69 decision at the CU Events Center in the league opener on Dec. 29. Washington has won 14 of 16 all-time meetings in Seattle, including the last seven. Colorado's last win at Washington was a 64-47 decision on Mar. 5, 2015.
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torero said:
Not your intention I know, but I think this undersells how terrific a college player Jacquez was. And just because I want to brag on the Nuggets, Peyton Watson could have been a junior on this year's UCLA team, but instead is the most important bench guy on an NBA title contender.
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Along those lines, still imagine Jabari on this team.
 
Buffs are -3, which is a lot on the road.
I think Buffs wiin by 5+, start their run.

Always worries me, that the refs might make themselves the biggest factor. When a ref has his shirts altered and makes sure to flex, I worry that the game isn't as important to him, as his image.
 
cu3x said:
Buffs are -3, which is a lot on the road.
I think Buffs wiin by 5+, start their run.

Always worries me, that the refs might make themselves the biggest factor. When a ref has his shirts altered and makes sure to flex, I worry that the game isn't as important to him, as his image.
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That line is absurd. KP and BT have it as a 1pt game. The line apparently opened at -1.5, then shot up 2 points on MGM to -3.5. WTF?
 
RumblinBuff said:
That line is absurd. KP and BT have it as a 1pt game. The line apparently opened at -1.5, then shot up 2 points on MGM to -3.5. WTF?
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It's hard to follow.

But, we truly have 3 all-P12 players. TdS, KJ and Cody could all be 1st team.
Eddie has to be HM. Our other guys are good.

I think we have as good a team as anyone in the league.
 
RumblinBuff said:
That line is absurd. KP and BT have it as a 1pt game. The line apparently opened at -1.5, then shot up 2 points on MGM to -3.5. WTF?
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Given how hard it is to win on the road and our results on the road to date, the line is ridiculous. It should easily be UW -3.
 
Da Lama said:
Given how hard it is to win on the road and our results on the road to date, the line is ridiculous. It should easily be UW -3.
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I thought anything from CU +1.5 to -1.5 would've been fair, given our profile, but also our struggles away from Boulder. This seems like an overreaction to some activity.

Hopkins, apparently, has been sick, but is expected to coach tonight.
 
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