Grade the 2022 Recruiting Class

[Da Lama]

Yes he can. He’s the guy that shows up with his own eye balls and a stop watch

Pac-12 football: Recruiting class rankings for the 2022 cycle

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247sports.com

This is BS. The ranking is based on total points. Total pts that are based on # of recruits in the class. We had the highest # in the conference. The same ranking has USC sitting 10th because they only had 8 recruits. 5 of which were 4 stars or higher. All of their recruits are better than ours. If you take their star averages, they rank 1st in the conference going away. Our average total puts us 11th. That's the metric you want to look at and use.

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

Depends on if the player can actually play or is a good fit for Colorado. Would you swap a 4 star that will flunk out of school or have other character issues for a 3 star?

Yes, because there is the same likelihood that happens with the 3* recruits that CU brings in.

 

[Da Lama]

Depends on if the player can actually play or is a good fit for Colorado. Would you swap a 4 star that will flunk out of school or have other character issues for a 3 star?

You seem to flunk out of this board everyday and we're keeping you around. And you're not even a good fit.

Now, go stand in the corner.

 

[JMBuffs]

This argument is older that ****, and we cannot always turn the 2 stars into Brian Iwuh(s). But to label this class a bust, or underwhelming is ridiculous.

Sneed, Brown, and Jefferson were great transfer pickups. Dixson, McCown, Smith, Venn, and Page are quality recruits who could see the field soon.

and this year specifically, I believe CU did a good job identifying players with circumstances that limited some recruiting exposure.

WR Tyson, switched schools (dude should be a 4 star)
S Salave'a, America Samoan who starred in the Poly bowl, has the lineage
S Smith, Changed positions senior year, played and excelled at a high level
RB Hankerson, (I don't know his circumstances or how we got this kid, but damn he's legit!)

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

This argument is older that ****, and we cannot always turn the 2 stars into Brian Iwuh(s). But to label this class a bust, or underwhelming is ridiculous.

Sneed, Brown, and Jefferson were great transfer pickups. Dixson, McCown, Smith, Venn, and Page are quality recruits who could see the field soon.

and this year specifically, I believe CU did a good job identifying players with circumstances that limited some recruiting exposure.

WR Tyson, switched schools (dude should be a 4 star)
S Salave'a, America Samoan who starred in the Poly bowl, has the lineage
S Smith, Changed positions senior year, played and excelled at a high level
RB Hankerson, (I don't know his circumstances or how we got this kid, but damn he's legit!)

I agree, but I am concerned about DL. I truly hope they are trying to bring in a few transfers after Spring

 

[GoBuffs08]

Depends on if the player can actually play or is a good fit for Colorado. Would you swap a 4 star that will flunk out of school or have other character issues for a 3 star?

Somehow Bama's 4* players can't play? Good fit for Colorado? What the furk? I would take a 4* athlete with character issues over a 3* athlete with the same issues.

Your good character, comes from a great family, looks you in the eyes when shaking hands is the same recruiting BS that was started by DII Dan and that was the beginning of CU's demise.

Is that code for sure he in only a 2* athlete, but he tries really hard? Gets his ass kicked by bigger, stronger and faster players, but comes from a great family? I don't care how well a player is doing in school if he gets his ass kicked every Saturday on the field.

 

[manhattanbuff]

If memory serves, the last two 5 stars we got were complete busts.

Count the number of four/five star players who get regular playing time and are in this year’s Super Bowl. Then, get back to us.

 

[bigbang2]

The majority of recruits are 3 stars. Programs like Utah, Wisconsin and Boise state do a good job of player development. Star rating doesn't matter. The best player will play.

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

The majority of recruits are 3 stars. Programs like Utah, Wisconsin and Boise state do a good job of player development. Star rating doesn't matter. The best player will play.

Do you know how many players are rated at 3 stars? Of course there are more in the NFL. Maybe you should look at percentages rather than numbers because percentages tell the real story. Stars do matter, quit being so good ignorant.

Do stars predict a recruit’s success?

Coach Griffin is back to analyze how star rankings can predict success for individual players

www.thedailystampede.com

 

[BuffLuke80]

Do you know how many players are rated at 3 stars? Of course there are more in the NFL. Maybe you should look at percentages rather than numbers because percentages tell the real story. Stars do matter, quit being so good ignorant.

Do stars predict a recruit’s success?

Coach Griffin is back to analyze how star rankings can predict success for individual players

www.thedailystampede.com

Barking up the wrong tree there man.

 

[MtnBuff]

So I guess that Georgia and Alabama and Michigan and in prior years Ohio State and Clemson and other schools being in the National Championship Playoff had nothing to do with those guys they recruited being 4* and 5* players.

They must win because they get guys who are good fits and try really hard.

 

[GoldenSkier]

Outside of a guy like the WR Tyson this year (which 247 even admitted was a low ranking based off what they saw), very few people get missed by the multi million dollar machine that is college football scouting. Stars matter, there’s exceptions to the rule, but weird to see anyone generally denying it

 

[manhattanbuff]

Outside of a guy like the WR Tyson this year (which 247 even admitted was a low ranking based off what they saw), very few people get missed by the multi million dollar machine that is college football scouting. Stars matter, there’s exceptions to the rule, but weird to see anyone generally denying it

Whaddya mean? You’re saying that playing the lottery isn’t a sound retirement strategy?!

 

[SINKRATZ]

The majority of recruits are 3 stars. Programs like Utah, Wisconsin and Boise state do a good job of player development. Star rating doesn't matter. The best player will play.

Hey genius, where’s that analysis on adding hockey and converting Coors into an ice rink that you said was coming over a week ago?

 

[bigbang2]

Hey genius, where’s that analysis on adding hockey and converting Coors into an ice rink that you said was coming over a week ago?

We need a sarcasm font. You think I have time to produce a report lol.

 

[SINKRATZ]

We need a sarcasm font. You think I have time to produce a report lol.

So when you said this…

Give me another day.

What, you were just completely full of s**t? If you’re just not going to try or you’ve determined it’s not really possible, that’s fine just own up to it. But you’ve had some really awful takes and when you’re challenged on those takes don’t run and hide.

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

So when you said this…

What, you were just completely full of s**t? If you’re just not going to try or you’ve determined it’s not really possible, that’s fine just own up to it. But you’ve had some really awful takes and when you’re challenged on those takes don’t run and hide.

To be honest, when he said “give me another day”, I kind of assumed he was being a smarmy dick who had no intentions of backing up his ridiculous assertion

 

[SINKRATZ]

To be honest, when he said “give me another day”, I kind of assumed he was being a smarmy dick who had no intentions of backing up his ridiculous assertion

I was pretty sure he’d never actually deliver the goods but I’m not letting that bulls**t off the hook. Saying stupid things then not standing behind it is chicken s**t.

 

[FM-Buff]

I was pretty sure he’d never actually deliver the goods but I’m not letting that bulls**t off the hook. Saying stupid things then not standing behind it is chicken s**t.

You’re letting bigbang beat you.

 

[Not Sure]

There are times when I think BB2 genuinely means everything he posts here. Then he posts some totally absurd **** that is just so out there that no sane person with half a brain could actually believe. It’s at those times when I come to the conclusion that this is the biggest trolling job in the history of fan sites anywhere.

 

[GoBuffs08]

The majority of recruits are 3 stars. Programs like Utah, Wisconsin and Boise state do a good job of player development. Star rating doesn't matter. The best player will play.

Why do you consistently use Boise as an example? If CU's goal is to be Boise, we should join the Mountain West. If Boise played in a P5 conference they would get beat more times than they would win. Wisconsin and Utah's 2022 classes are rated higher than CU. You say those schools coach up the players, but they start with better players.

 

[72grad]

Count the number of four/five star players who get regular playing time and are in this year’s Super Bowl. Then, get back to us.

Well, I don't have time for a player by player analysis. And I am not getting into 4 stars, because my post was about 5 stars only. But an article on the internet (thus true) suggests there are only 6 players who were graded 5 stars, including Stafford. Burrow was not. Cooper Kupp played for Eastern Washington,so..... Bleacher report says that 39% of 5 stars are "retained" in the NFL after being drafted.

 

[SINKRATZ]

Well, I don't have time for a player by player analysis. And I am not getting into 4 stars, because my post was about 5 stars only. But an article on the internet (thus true) suggests there are only 6 players who were graded 5 stars, including Stafford. Burrow was not. Cooper Kupp played for Eastern Washington,so..... Bleacher report says that 39% of 5 stars are "retained" in the NFL after being drafted.

Why does any of that matter? As a CU fan, I care how those players did in college - if they have a long NFL career great, but that’s not my concern when I’m looking at recruits.

Tim Tebow won 2 national championships. Vince Young had one of the greatest college football seasons ever - ditto Reggie Bush, Robert Griffen III, Jamarcus Russell and on and on. The fact that none of them had much NFL success doesn’t take away from them being highly rated recruits who were elite college players.

 

[GoBuffs08]

Why does any of that matter? As a CU fan, I care how those players did in college - if they have a long NFL career great, but that’s not my concern when I’m looking at recruits.

Tim Tebow won 2 national championships. Vince Young had one of the greatest college football seasons ever - ditto Reggie Bush, Robert Griffen III, Jamarcus Russell and on and on. The fact that none of them had much NFL success doesn’t take away from them being highly rated recruits who were elite college players.

I'm pretty sure all those players you mention would not have been "good fit for Colorado".

 

[Duff Man]

Damn, I love people earnestly arguing stars do not matter.

 

[SINKRATZ]

Damn, I love people earnestly arguing stars do not matter.

Yeah well what about Carson Wells and Nate Landman smart guy? We just need to recruit more Carson Wells and Nate Landmans.

 

[FM-Buff]

Well, I don't have time for a player by player analysis. And I am not getting into 4 stars, because my post was about 5 stars only. But an article on the internet (thus true) suggests there are only 6 players who were graded 5 stars, including Stafford. Burrow was not. Cooper Kupp played for Eastern Washington,so..... Bleacher report says that 39% of 5 stars are "retained" in the NFL after being drafted.

So….unrated players are just as likely to play in the NFL than 5 star players?

 

[patebuff]

This is BS. The ranking is based on total points. Total pts that are based on # of recruits in the class. We had the highest # in the conference. The same ranking has USC sitting 10th because they only had 8 recruits. 5 of which were 4 stars or higher. All of their recruits are better than ours. If you take their star averages, they rank 1st in the conference going away. Our average total puts us 11th. That's the metric you want to look at and use.

Definitely an asterisk to how classes will be ranked going forward with the immediate transfer portal now.

It seems to me that Dorrell is wanting to go full classes every year, whereas a lot of programs will only recruit 12-20 each year and fill the roster with half immediate transfers. Either way, I think recruiting ratings will be hard to judge because of this. You can still use the averages, but that doesn't include transfers (at least I don't think it does).

MSU will be a good case study to see if they continue the large transfers into the program or go back to a traditional sized class.

 

[bigbang2]

Stars don't matter. Can he play football or not? Don't care if you are a 1 star or a 5 star.

 

[manhattanbuff]

Well, I don't have time for a player by player analysis. And I am not getting into 4 stars, because my post was about 5 stars only. But an article on the internet (thus true) suggests there are only 6 players who were graded 5 stars, including Stafford. Burrow was not. Cooper Kupp played for Eastern Washington,so..... Bleacher report says that 39% of 5 stars are "retained" in the NFL after being drafted.

1. There are not many 5-star players every year. Using your BR numbers… The fact that 39% of 5-stars are “retained” (whatever that means in this context) in the NFL with a 3-6 year gap between their evaluation and going to the NFL is astoundingly good.
2. The distinction between 4-star and 5-star players is blurry since the rating sometimes depends upon the service in question. Analyzing 4-star and 5-star player outcomes gives you a MUCH better assessment of top end players. I suspect you don’t want to talk about 4-stars because a) 4-stars wash out at CU plenty and b) you’d notice that the best players in the NFL are more likely to have been 4-star or 5-star players coming out of HS. This is particularly true of the last 10 years when the internet has made scouting more players possible.

Exceptions like Cooper Kupp do not prove the rule. There are hundreds of thousands of unrated/low rated guys who played FCS ball who are working regular jobs. That one guy made it doesn’t prove that all of the other 25-30 4-5 star players who dominate are worthless.