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How I think this all plays out

Think about it for a second.

Can you honestly say there wouldn't be anything more in line with Phil's CU than the Athletic Department being told: "Unless you can come up with a booster who will pay for a coaching change, you either have to keep him or you could fire him and not have a HC until 2024"?
I mean, it would be on brand in the same way any scenario you can think of is possible, no matter how ridiculous because Phil D sucks, but no, suggesting something that’s never happened in recent college football, maybe ever, is not in line with CUAD. Phil oversaw Hawkins being fired mid season, Embree being hired and fired in 2 seasons, MacIntyre being fired, Tucker being hired, etc.

Hiring a full time interim for one season makes no sense whatsoever
 
We have one of the worst teams, if not the worst team, in the country. This is occurring during all of the discussion of realignment, when we should be positioning ourselves to be in the discussion to join the best conference we possibly could. in my opinion, how this is all happening and playing out is not at the level you would expect from a P5 team/program. So I don’t know that it’s all that crazy to have a rumor about going G5. I think with Boulder, our campus, the denver market and all that we SHOULD be in the discussion for the Big 10. I don’t see any actions that would impress them (or even the big 12) right now.
Being a bottom feeder in a P5 Conference equates to about 10x the media revenue of being in a G5 conference. It’s silly talk
 
Being a bottom feeder in a P5 Conference equates to about 10x the media revenue of being in a G5 conference. It’s silly talk
We’re just not a bottom feeder. We can expect to get worse from here since no recruits will want to come here? There’s no guarantee that we stay P5. Oregon State and Washington state were being discussed as being left out in some scenarios. Our only hope to be included seems to be as the cupcake team, guaranteed easy win team on the schedule. Why does CU’s admin feel that’s ok??
 
We’re just not a bottom feeder. We can expect to get worse from here since no recruits will want to come here? There’s no guarantee that we stay P5. Oregon State and Washington state were being discussed as being left out in some scenarios. Our only hope to be included seems to be as the cupcake team, guaranteed easy win team on the schedule. Why does CU’s admin feel that’s ok??
I'm talking about the tier 2 conferences like Big 12/ACC/Pac10 and whatever becomes of them. The media deals in those conference are going to be around the $30m/year per school. The MWC currently has a deal that's around $4m/year per school. There is a 0.0% chance that CU's administration, as indifferent as they may be toward athletics, is going to give up $20m+ per year. They will let CU continue being non competitive in the Big 12 (for example) before dropping to G5.

The reason Oregon State and Washington State will be left out is because they don't bring large fanbases, big brands or large markets. For all its warts, CU has history and tradition in a premier conference, has a top 15 and growing market, is one of three P5 teams that occupies the MTZ and a geographical connector, and has a fairly large alumni base that spans from coast to coast.
 
I’m just saying nothing you’ve said makes logical sense on any level. The one thing that would be worse than keeping Dorrell for 2023 is doing what you’re describing so it makes it hard to take what you’ve been told seriously.
It may not make sense on a logical level, but very little that CU does with respect to its football program makes sense on a logical level. Frankly, the idea that Phil and company are trying to avoid a multi year interim coach situation makes about as much sense as anything else.
 
I'm talking about the tier 2 conferences like Big 12/ACC/Pac10 and whatever becomes of them. The media deals in those conference are going to be around the $30m/year per school. The MWC currently has a deal that's around $4m/year per school. There is a 0.0% chance that CU's administration, as indifferent as they may be toward athletics, is going to give up $20m+ per year. They will let CU continue being non competitive in the Big 12 (for example) before dropping to G5.

The reason Oregon State and Washington State will be left out is because they don't bring large fanbases, big brands or large markets. For all its warts, CU has history and tradition in a premier conference, has a top 15 and growing market, is one of three P5 teams that occupies the MTZ and a geographical connector, and has a fairly large alumni base that spans from coast to coast.
This G5 talk is ridiculous. Even if you believed CU’s goal was to move down to the G5 (I don’t for a second), you wouldn’t need to torpedo the football program to do it. Us being historically bad has nothing to do with plans to drop to G5.
 
I'm with you on this...100%. Hopefully a unicorn booster comes in and says enough is enough. Take everything I said with a grain of salt...I don't claim to have high level connections. The person I spoke with is in the AD but he's not a LC/RG level person. I believe him when he tells me the current state of affairs but even he said a few more bad losses could change the calculus of the situation.

In all honesty, it wasn't the comments about KD that bothered me, it was the sentiment to join the G5.
So your source is telling you that the AD is having internal discussion’s about going G5?
 
You guys are looking at this all wrong.

First, is it even possible for an interim to be worse than the crap coaching we see now?

Second, you get a free look at somebody else. It is possible, McGeoghan could be lightning in a bottle. Sanford? No thanks, that guy has been a disaster. He was a flop at WKU following a successful run by Jeff Brohm. He ran WKU into the ground. He is not a maintainer, he sure as heck isn't a rebuilder. He would be a disaster.

Third, dumping Kardboard is a zero sum transaction if you simply promote somebody from within and see what happens. CU can't lose more.

Fourth, the money saved can be used to fire RG, LC and wait Dr. Phil out until he goes on the ice floe, since it is obvious CU admin. is happy with his sub-mediocre performance, and is unlikely to fire him, poor results be damned.
 
I’m just saying nothing you’ve said makes logical sense on any level. The one thing that would be worse than keeping Dorrell for 2023 is doing what you’re describing so it makes it hard to take what you’ve been told seriously.
That is 100% fair.

What is factual, and not an opinion on current sentiment, is that the AD can't find anyone willing to pay for a new coach yet. Assuming this stays true, there are only 3 options:
  1. Keep KD for the duration of his contract
  2. Fire KD this season and name an interim (Until the AD can secure $$, the interim MUST stay in place)
  3. Fire KD at the end of the season and name an interim for the 2023 season while you search for a new coach for 2024.
The ONLY thing that changes this is the willingness of the CU admin or a booster to pay up. Until they find this, #3 is the only logical option.

I agree that the rest seems implausible and it might just be. I'll refrain from attempting to convey the detailed logic behind it however. In a nutshell, the belief is that CU can't successfully rebuild from within a major conference and going to a G5 could mitigate some of the primary obstacles CU needs to address in order to become competitive again (lack of admin support, NIL, talent gaps against P5 competition, etc..) because most in the MWC face the same issues.

There are a million reasons to think this is a dumb path forward and I agree with most of them.
 
If any of this discussion has any validity, then we have our answer about our dear old new President Todd Saliman. It is over if true and I will find a new way to enjoy college football (which is not much different than today). **** em if true. With a red hot poker!
 
That is 100% fair.

What is factual, and not an opinion on current sentiment, is that the AD can't find anyone willing to pay for a new coach yet. Assuming this stays true, there are only 3 options:
  1. Keep KD for the duration of his contract
  2. Fire KD this season and name an interim (Until the AD can secure $$, the interim MUST stay in place)
  3. Fire KD at the end of the season and name an interim for the 2023 season while you search for a new coach for 2024.
The ONLY thing that changes this is the willingness of the CU admin or a booster to pay up. Until they find this, #3 is the only logical option.

I agree that the rest seems implausible and it might just be. I'll refrain from attempting to convey the detailed logic behind it however. In a nutshell, the belief is that CU can't successfully rebuild from within a major conference and going to a G5 could mitigate some of the primary obstacles CU needs to address in order to become competitive again (lack of admin support, NIL, talent gaps against P5 competition, etc..) because most in the MWC face the same issues.

There are a million reasons to think this is a dumb path forward and I agree with most of them.
I’ll posit another theory - people with the ability to help financially don’t trust the people in charge to spend their money wisely. If that’s the case and if the new President values a strong football program at all then it means RG has to go. Once the money dries up as an AD you’re a dead man walking.
 
We are stuck with kd the rest of the season is what I am also hearing. He was told he would have this season and they are letting him.
It’s a reverse Mel Tucker - tell the coach you’re committed to him then yank the rug out as soon as we have a better option.
 
I’ll posit another theory - people with the ability to help financially don’t trust the people in charge to spend their money wisely. If that’s the case and if the new President values a strong football program at all then it means RG has to go. Once the money dries up as an AD you’re a dead man walking.

Let's be real, nobody is going to pony up millions of dollars to fire KD and hire a new coach without at least a great deal of insight into who that new coach will be. This would be true even if the CUAD wasn't a dumpster fire presently. That's a delicate situation for an AD--looking for a coach on the down low who you can sell to donors to fund KD's buyout. I don't have any inside information, but I have to assume RG is trying this, but it's probably a real long shot.
 
That is 100% fair.

What is factual, and not an opinion on current sentiment, is that the AD can't find anyone willing to pay for a new coach yet. Assuming this stays true, there are only 3 options:
  1. Keep KD for the duration of his contract
  2. Fire KD this season and name an interim (Until the AD can secure $$, the interim MUST stay in place)
  3. Fire KD at the end of the season and name an interim for the 2023 season while you search for a new coach for 2024.
The ONLY thing that changes this is the willingness of the CU admin or a booster to pay up. Until they find this, #3 is the only logical option.

I agree that the rest seems implausible and it might just be. I'll refrain from attempting to convey the detailed logic behind it however. In a nutshell, the belief is that CU can't successfully rebuild from within a major conference and going to a G5 could mitigate some of the primary obstacles CU needs to address in order to become competitive again (lack of admin support, NIL, talent gaps against P5 competition, etc..) because most in the MWC face the same issues.

There are a million reasons to think this is a dumb path forward and I agree with most of them.

I'll agree to be the Interim for 2023 and I'm easy. I want $700,000, the Executive Suite at the St Julien from February 15 through December 1, catered Ethiopian food every third night, and a pedicab ride to each game. The pedicab must be black and feature the CU logo in gold. I will NOT do any media interviews whatsoever and I will be paid in $100 bills at the end of each game. I will NOT have to talk to Rick George or to ANYONE associated with CU athletic administration for the length of my contract. I will be provided an all expense paid vacation to Anguilla for the entire month of May 2023.

The team will play hard and I will use the transfer portal like a junkyard dog. I have no football coaching experience and make no promises as to wins/losses.

The above terms are non-negotiable, and this offer ends at midnight on Friday, October 7, 2022.

Call me.
 
I'll agree to be the Interim for 2023 and I'm easy. I want $700,000, the Executive Suite at the St Julien from February 15 through December 1, catered Ethiopian food every third night, and a pedicab ride to each game. The pedicab must be black and feature the CU logo in gold. I will NOT do any media interviews whatsoever and I will be paid in $100 bills at the end of each game. I will NOT have to talk to Rick George or to ANYONE associated with CU athletic administration for the length of my contract. I will be provided an all expense paid vacation to Anguilla for the entire month of May 2023.

The team will play hard and I will use the transfer portal like a junkyard dog. I have no football coaching experience and make no promises as to wins/losses.

The above terms are non-negotiable, and this offer ends at midnight on Friday, October 7, 2022.

Call me.
Let us know when RG insists you be paid $4,000,000, instead of $700,000, and signs you to a three year interim contract, fully guaranteed.
 
Either RG runs an extremely tight ship or no news is bad news. I feel like we would have heard leaks of potential time lines or plans to can Dorrell
 
Either RG runs an extremely tight ship or no news is bad news. I feel like we would have heard leaks of potential time lines or plans to can Dorrell
Here are the scenarios:

1. RG is frantically working the phones trying to come up with buy out money but no one is talking because RG is a top notch administrator with loyal employees who won't leak anything.

2. Since issuing that statement, RG has been busy on Allshoes.com looking for sweet trades.
 
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