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How important is a 'W' against KSU?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Mr. Babar, Oct 12, 2008.

  1. Mr. Babar

    Mr. Babar I have no elephant books Club Member

    Feb 17, 2008
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    This is our "watershed" game IMO. This is a "must win" game. A win and we're 4-3, a loss and we are on our way to 3-5 (after Missou) and have NO confidence left.
  2. The Guest

    The Guest Guest

    It really depends on how you define "important". In the context of college football (where few things are actually "important", but where we all nonetheless invest enormous emotion), and even more specifically, Colorado's program within the broader boundaries of college football, I would consider a "W" somewhat important.

    This is why...

    CU's success lies in recruiting quality athletes capable of taking this team to the next level. CU doesn't need to be national champions to attract that kind of talent, but simply demonstrate a positive trend. Simply put, Coach Hawk's teams must exceed expectations to recruit in the short-term.

    In year one, Coach Hawkins' team underachieved, but he got a free-pass for obvious reasons. Last year CU overachieved and was rewarded in recruiting. This year we've met expectations (general expectations, though not always our own expectations as fans). A victory against KSU would go a long way to show that we're heading in the right direction.

    If CU underachieves, as evidenced by a loss against KSU, it could potentially affect this year's class. What does that mean for long-term implications? Well, if we can't attract quality on the D-line or defensive secondary soon, CU may find itself in a hole. Realistically, however, when the injury bug levels and the team regains some of its academic casualties (come on guys...Simas...we need you to play!) this team will be good-to-excellent for the next three years. After that, recruiting should become somewhat self-perpetuating.

    Though team success is only one component in recruiting, it's a fairly significant one, as it appeals to the young athlete's ego, and desire to be associated with a proven winner.

    On a personal level, a KSU victory is very important for my emotional health.
  3. buffs6236

    buffs6236 Club Member Club Member

    Nov 27, 2005
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    very important for my emotional health too. i dont like to lose and i am tired of the way we are losing. I think the better question is not how important a W against KSU is but more the question is How do we get the W? My confidance is not great in this team players and coaches. I know they are trying but wow. what a 180 from the start of the season.

    I know they are on par with what we thought they would be or better but i think we all had such high hopes with the start of the season and how well they beat the lambs. I was concerened with the EWU game but felt better again with the WVU game.

    Well now i dont know what to think and what games we can win. I think we will get killed by OSU and Mizzou as well as kNU. I think we get ISU and A&M but dont know about kjucco
  4. LincolnBuff

    LincolnBuff Active Member

    Jun 20, 2006
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    Considering our remaining schedule, yes, KSU is a must-win.

    Of the remaining I see KSU, ISU, and aTm as should-win games and MU and OSU as probable losses and NU as a toss-up. We could still finish at 7-5 which would be about where many predicted us to finish.

    Sat, Oct 18 *KANSAS STATE
    Sat, Oct 25 *Missouri
    Sat, Nov 01 *Texas A&M
    Sat, Nov 08 *IOWA STATE
    Sat, Nov 15 *OKLAHOMA STATE
    Fri, Nov 28 *Nebraska
  5. FlatironsBuff

    FlatironsBuff Club Member Club Member

    Jul 8, 2005
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    I think we need to beat KSU to win 6 games. We thought OSU was a possible win, but now see that they beat the team we thought we had no chance with, so we can agree that both of those look like real tough jobs at this point. Nu looked better yesterday; can't figure them out at this point, but a rivalry game at their house means that will be a tough job too I expect. Which means we have to beat KSU, ISU and A&M to win 6. Then have to upset one of MU, OSU or NU to get to 7 games and a bowl game.

    With the schedule we had this year and the injuries so early, plus FSU looks better than we thought, OSU way better than we expected-- 7 wins and a bowl game would give me a good feeling about the future. if we keep letting Cody get hammered back there, then I am not sure that CU can keep taking positive steps until he graduates.

    I am trying to have faith the the coaches are not playing favorites by playing Cody, that he is our best chance of wins, but it is hard at this point. Just as our line troubles make Speedy the best alternative at the RB position, I feel the line troubles make Ballenger the best alternative at QB. Not that he is head and shoulders better than Cody at this point, but I think what he brings to the table in raw talent is needed to counteract the deficiencies we have on the OL right now.
  6. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

    Aug 15, 2006
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    I'm not sure we beat KSU. They have no defense but they can score and have a mobile QB that could give us fits.

    It's gut check time for the Buffs.
    I hope they played their worst game of the year yesterday.
  7. BuffSurveyor

    BuffSurveyor Club Member Club Member

    Jun 14, 2008
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    KSU is a must win...........but I don't see it happening. But this is D1 football baby, anything can happen.
  8. buffwings

    buffwings Club Member Club Member

    Jan 2, 2008
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    If we dont beat the mildcats, we wont win 6 games, and the team simply watch the bowl games from home. To recruits and the nation CU will seem to have regressed and can't disagree with them. No one expects this many injuries nor academic casualties, but they are a fact of football life for ALL schools. Good coaching can make for it with simplified plays or put the best players to succeed and good gametime decisions and adjustments. HOWEVER, I'm just not seeing it.

    I think DH is NOT a Big XII coach. I hope he proves me wrong as he isnt going anywhere for at least 2 yrs. But even though we are where most of the nation expected, as fans, we expected to be at least closer than we are today. We expected to beat beatable teams. WVU, fsu, and KU were certainly beatable and the O could not make the plays we needed. Auburn fired their OC for trying to put in an offense the team wasnt ready to play, I see a similar trend here.

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