Good post.
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I'm on the "Fire Hawkins" bandwagon now
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Okay. I'm just looking for these quotes and soundbites...
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The playbook and execution were better in the first half by a ratio of 17:7.
The problem appears to be with the depth and health concerns Hagan's RB's. CSU's QB was getting more confident as the game wore on. CU's offense was unable to execute any sustained clock-eating ground game in the second half. The team has flashes of potential, but did not show an ability to string together four solid quarters of offense.
Issue #2 is why I disagree with you on Issue #1. If you are having trouble getting your excecution down, then work on excecution during a blowout game. What better "practice" than to actually work on things in a game situation?
I think #2 reinforces why #1 was a good decision. If you're not executing your base plays, work on them. Don't blow a team out with scheme and trickeration you may need later in the season when that blow out is completely unnecessary. It would have been counter-productive, imo, and would have created an obstacle to convincing these players that they've got a long way to go and a lot of work to do.
1) As Irv likes to say, everyone has the same plays, it's when you call them. If you have good players and competent coaches, it shouldn't ****ing matter if your future opponents get to see your entire playbook. Average fans put way too much stock into this concept. If that's really what we were doing yesterday, then it's just Exhibit No. 750 that our coaches are morons.
2) Did Dan Hawkins, or did he not, arrive in Boulder thumping his chest and talking about stepping on other team's throats and not letting up?? "Did Ghandi take a knee?" was the rhetorical quote I seem to remember......
2) Did Dan Hawkins, or did he not, arrive in Boulder thumping his chest and talking about stepping on other team's throats and not letting up?? "Did Ghandi take a knee?" was the rhetorical quote I seem to remember......
See. Thats why I'm a coach and you aren't. :lol:
For Gandhi, ahimsa was the expression of the deepest love for all humans, including one’s opponents; this non-violence therefore included not only a lack of physical harm to them, but also a lack of hatred or ill-will towards them.
Thanks, Crash. You've provided the best explanation for the last 4 years.
This. There was a short period of time about midway thru the 2nd quarter that it looked like our offense was making it look easy, but that was pretty much the end of that. The 2nd half was a combination of poor execution and our inability to run the ball and grind it out. This may sound like a broken record of the past few years, but I expected a bit more domination out of our OL considering the opponent. The potential of Torres as more of a power back is encouraging though.
Irv knows everything, as he should, given his age..........he's almost as old as DBT, ya know.
[FONT=Cambria, serif]Patterson also contended that CU "kept the offense basic . . . when we open it, when we iron the mistakes out, it's going to be explosive."
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I have no doubt that the offense shut down in the second half, I just am not sure it was a decision made by the coaching staff instead of a simple continuation of the pattern we have seen the past four years.
How many times has this team played a game with two solid halves on offense. When we are solid on offense in the first half it seems to shut down even if the game is close or we are behind.
This is a big part of the problem with Hawk, this team has shown a distinct lack of ability to maintain any continuity over the course of a game, even against bad competition.
How many times has this team played a game with two solid halves on offense. When we are solid on offense in the first half it seems to shut down even if the game is close or we are behind.
This is a big part of the problem with Hawk, this team has shown a distinct lack of ability to maintain any continuity over the course of a game, even against bad competition.
I've been gone all weekend, so i didn't to comment on this earlier.
I am pretty surprised that everyone is so down on a very solid beating of CSU. I must be crazy, but I thought the gameplan was great. Get the ball to the guys on the outside who are better athletes then what CSU has... rinse and repeat.
Should we have put up more points? Absolutely. Hansen missed some wide open throws that stalled drives, and penalties are still a problem.
I don't know.... I'm optimistic. I thought it was a great performance. The game was pretty much never in doubt.
I am pretty surprised that everyone is so down on a very solid beating of CSU. I must be crazy, but I thought the gameplan was great. Get the ball to the guys on the outside who are better athletes then what CSU has... rinse and repeat.
Should we have put up more points? Absolutely. Hansen missed some wide open throws that stalled drives, and penalties are still a problem.
I don't know.... I'm optimistic. I thought it was a great performance. The game was pretty much never in doubt.
I think, after kind of defending Hawkins for the last 9 months, I had my hopes a lot higher. Hansen was OK, but, like you said, missed on several passes. Our running game, 115 total yards, was pedestrian at best. I hope this "vanilla game plan" stuff is true. However, I don't think Hawkins should even consider vanilla game plans at this juncture in his career. But, maybe, hopefully, there is some sort of method to his madness.
It seems to me like everyone that was at the game came out happy and everyone that watched it on TV is disappointed.
I think Pterodactyl cam is to blame.
FIFY :smile2:
i'm happy with the performance.
the work inside on offense was effective, we have some good movement at the tailback position that will improve as the season progresses.
we have some speed on the outside that will open up the playbook (assuming we have a playbook).
we have good containment on the defensive line of scrimmage and good backup to fill the gaps.
we need to stop making the mental mistakes on offense.
we need bring it on defense more frequently.
we need to get the tight end in the game.
we need to get our heads out of our ass on the coaching side of the ball and use our talent effectively.
those are the little things...
the work inside on offense was effective, we have some good movement at the tailback position that will improve as the season progresses.
we have some speed on the outside that will open up the playbook (assuming we have a playbook).
we have good containment on the defensive line of scrimmage and good backup to fill the gaps.
we need to stop making the mental mistakes on offense.
we need bring it on defense more frequently.
we need to get the tight end in the game.
we need to get our heads out of our ass on the coaching side of the ball and use our talent effectively.
those are the little things...
The game was never in doubt because CSU is THAT ****ing bad. They are an awful, awful team right now. Given our clear talent advantage, we should have scored at least two more TDs. The second half performance by the offense was downright pathetic, and completely in line with Hawkins-coached teams here for the past 4 years. CU should have been blowing through them in the second half. Instead, we limped along.
I was very pleased with the run defense; however, the continued lack of pass rush, even when we blitz, has got to change. The true freshman QB was looking a lot more solid late in the game. The next three QBs we face won't make nearly the mistakes petey-boy made without a lot of heat.
I was very pleased with the run defense; however, the continued lack of pass rush, even when we blitz, has got to change. The true freshman QB was looking a lot more solid late in the game. The next three QBs we face won't make nearly the mistakes petey-boy made without a lot of heat.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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Here's why I was disappointed.
CSU's freshman qb completed 75% of his passes.
CU running game generated barely 100 yards.
CU offense only able to generate roughly 300 yards against perhaps the worst defense we'll face this season.
Too many dumb penalties. Illegal formation. False start. Etc. 10 penalties for 100+ yards is terrible.
24 points against CSU??
Team still has no killer instinct, mean streak, etc. Looked like they just went through the motions after getting up.
Much to work on as the season continues.
CSU's freshman qb completed 75% of his passes.
CU running game generated barely 100 yards.
CU offense only able to generate roughly 300 yards against perhaps the worst defense we'll face this season.
Too many dumb penalties. Illegal formation. False start. Etc. 10 penalties for 100+ yards is terrible.
24 points against CSU??
Team still has no killer instinct, mean streak, etc. Looked like they just went through the motions after getting up.
Much to work on as the season continues.
Wow, what a thread, I was offline all weekend, but I'm flabbergasted DBT has seen the light. Miracles never cease.:smile2:
I will always be happy with a three TD *****slapping of the goats.
A few things to consider though:
1. Hopefully first game jitters, but 10 penalties for 105 yards smacks of the same sloppy play we've seen 4 years running.
2. 3-15 on 3rd down is pretty poor and will kill CU against a quality opponent.
3. How many more line drive punts are we gonna see?:wow:
4. Patterson is the real deal, as is Clemons
5. TH looked good, not great, but good and it was nice to see the ball go somewhere other than the flat, if you know what I mean.
6. Run game remains shaky.
7. BLock got blown up tying to pass block.
8. OL still shaky at times.
Say what you want, but the goats do have a quality QB in the making, Thomas will be good.
I will always be happy with a three TD *****slapping of the goats.
A few things to consider though:
1. Hopefully first game jitters, but 10 penalties for 105 yards smacks of the same sloppy play we've seen 4 years running.
2. 3-15 on 3rd down is pretty poor and will kill CU against a quality opponent.
3. How many more line drive punts are we gonna see?:wow:
4. Patterson is the real deal, as is Clemons
5. TH looked good, not great, but good and it was nice to see the ball go somewhere other than the flat, if you know what I mean.
6. Run game remains shaky.
7. BLock got blown up tying to pass block.
8. OL still shaky at times.
Say what you want, but the goats do have a quality QB in the making, Thomas will be good.
fatbuff
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They dont play to win, they play not to lose. I dont have a lot of faith in Hawkins teams to win if things get close.
Razorbuff
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This. What we saw Saturday was an average win over a very poor team. I think the D is fine, but I don't see this season going well if the offense can't score more than 24 against the worst defense it will see all season.
I still don't know how to feel. It was just a "blah" win. The encouraging thing is how wide open our receivers were. Tyler was OK but he needs to be sharper. He also needs to get over the happy feet. I just don't see Dan Hawkins being a perenial 9 or 10 win coach. At least we look like we have a defense that will keep us in most games and we have some game breakers, potentially, on offense.
This and penalties are what killed any offensive continuity. I expect TH to be less amped up for Cal. He should come out at Cal loose as there is no pressure on him in that game. Whether the penalties go away remains to be seen. However, this was the first game and under most coaches execution improves greatly from Game 1 to 2. Let's pray that will finally happen under Hawk.
Geesh! Cu beats CSU with authority and gets the %$it kicked out of them by Cal (as most expected) and now everyone wants Hawkin's head on a stick after just 2 games. Neg rep me all you want but it's only been 2 games into the season.
No one is going to fire Hawkins just yet so get behind the Buffs and lets see if they can win some games.
Good Luck in the 12-Pac!
No one is going to fire Hawkins just yet so get behind the Buffs and lets see if they can win some games.
Good Luck in the 12-Pac!
Actually we wanted his head on a stick since last fall