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NIL: How Does it Work? (Plus transfer rules)

Very interesting article.

**** it. Can’t get it to work. Story about how Tennessee manages NIL through roster management.
 
Bread said:
paywalled. Cliffs notes?
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Interesting. I read without encountering a paywall. The story detailed how they manage NIL during the recruiting process and after, with some mention of how the collectives work.
 
BuffsBlog.com said:
A look at CU's football future, including some NIL talk and killing the excuse that CU doesn't have the NIL money to compete.

https://buffsblog.com/relevant-but-broken-a-nuanced-look-at-the-state-of-cu-football/
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good read. I don't like the part about the hit rate of transfers. Guys that graduated/went to the NFL aren't misses as they are counted in your math. If they contributed meaningful snaps to the team, that's a hit. And even if a guy came in, transferred after 1 season, but contributed meaningful snaps, that's a hit. So it's a lot more complex than the basic math.

E.g. if Byard transferred after this year (knock on wood) he would still be a hit in my book because he was a MAJOR piece for us.
 
Bread said:
good read. I don't like the part about the hit rate of transfers. Guys that graduated/went to the NFL aren't misses as they are counted in your math. If they contributed meaningful snaps to the team, that's a hit. And even if a guy came in, transferred after 1 season, but contributed meaningful snaps, that's a hit. So it's a lot more complex than the basic math.

E.g. if Byard transferred after this year (knock on wood) he would still be a hit in my book because he was a MAJOR piece for us.
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I understand the point, but I think one of the downsides of signing grad transfers/seniors is that they're only around for 1 year. There's a cost to that, and it's lack of continuity and program buy-in.

Really what we're measuring here is retention and not "hit rate," which may be confusing in the article.
 
Bread said:
good read. I don't like the part about the hit rate of transfers. Guys that graduated/went to the NFL aren't misses as they are counted in your math. If they contributed meaningful snaps to the team, that's a hit. And even if a guy came in, transferred after 1 season, but contributed meaningful snaps, that's a hit. So it's a lot more complex than the basic math.

E.g. if Byard transferred after this year (knock on wood) he would still be a hit in my book because he was a MAJOR piece for us.
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You mean our best defensive player, by far, was a hit? (Like, when he left the ASU game, our defense went from really good to absolute sh!t?)

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Great article about how NIL is being managed by schools. Sorry, it is an Athletic article behind the paywall. Summary - as we all know, without a mega-donor, programs will never compete at the highest levels of the sport. The article details how programs with the massive donors are managing the process.

www.nytimes.com

The college football spending cap is brand new, and here’s how schools already are ignoring it

The revenue-sharing salary cap is a boon to plenty of schools. For the richest ones, workarounds are already in play.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
I was assured a free college education+degree, avoiding crippling debt, & the massive networking advantages/job opps afforded to CFB players aren’t really benefits
 
Buffnik said:

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That's a horrible argument: "we might spoil these guys and that's the reason to change the NIL and transfer rules"

And this is an old argument. 1956 Heisman winner Paul Hornung Spike his entire life about how he "lived life on scholarship" and had every handed to him since starting college.
 
hokiehead said:
That's a horrible argument: "we might spoil these guys and that's the reason to change the NIL and transfer rules"

And this is an old argument. 1956 Heisman winner Paul Hornung Spike his entire life about how he "lived life on scholarship" and had every handed to him since starting college.
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He's not saying that players shouldn't be paid. He'd be the last person to say that. But think of how such a high percentage of professional athletes have nothing within 5 years of their playing career ending. They're older, have very experienced representation, veteran player mentors, and pretty robust money management training from their league & union.

They're older point is that in the real world the vast majority of college athletes will not be using the money they earn to make a substantial down payment on a home and put most of the rest into an IRA. They will blow it while leaving college without a real education, and will have transferred so many times that there will few relationships but a lot of burnt bridges with the alumni and booster networks. It's going to be awful.
 
Buffnik said:
He's not saying that players shouldn't be paid. He'd be the last person to say that. But think of how such a high percentage of professional athletes have nothing within 5 years of their playing career ending. They're older, have very experienced representation, veteran player mentors, and pretty robust money management training from their league & union.

They're older point is that in the real world the vast majority of college athletes will not be using the money they earn to make a substantial down payment on a home and put most of the rest into an IRA. They will blow it while leaving college without a real education, and will have transferred so many times that there will few relationships but a lot of burnt bridges with the alumni and booster networks. It's going to be awful.
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When guys like Calipari or Saban put their money where their mouths are on this stuff, I'll start believing they aren't just trying to keep players under control.

Either of those two could spend 1% of their annual earnings to run a month long summer camp for every player in the SEC that taught financial literacy. They could bring in guys who blew through their rookie contracts and hit the skids, and former D-1 athletes who parlayed their degrees and networks from college into fulfilling careers.

Or, if we're to buy into their personal mythologies of being mentors who mold young men into leaders, they could do the hard work of showing their players the paths to success off of the field, and be able to convince them not to transfer every year.

There has to be a better solution than making guys sit for a year, or trying to enforce ridiculously punitive contracts like the Georgia guy who transferred out.
 
Robert Sorell said:
When guys like Calipari or Saban put their money where their mouths are on this stuff, I'll start believing they aren't just trying to keep players under control.

Either of those two could spend 1% of their annual earnings to run a month long summer camp for every player in the SEC that taught financial literacy. They could bring in guys who blew through their rookie contracts and hit the skids, and former D-1 athletes who parlayed their degrees and networks from college into fulfilling careers.
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The NFL and NBA spend tons of money on those programs and the players still largely have dog **** spending habits, why would it be any different with younger kids?
 
Corey Trevorson said:
The NFL and NBA spend tons of money on those programs and the players still largely have dog **** spending habits, why would it be any different with younger kids?
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I'm guessing there's something between modest and solid improvement from those programs though, and like all education, the earlier you start the better.

There's never going to be an instant and complete fix to keep all young men who get a pile of money seasoned with CTE and celebrity from making horrible decisions.

My point is less that there's some perfect way to keep guys on the straight and narrow, and more that Calipari is full of **** trying to sell this as anything other than making his job easier.

And, to turn it back on you, guys had dog**** spending habits, and poor graduation rates when transfers were restricted, so how does Cal's suggestion help anything?
 
Robert Sorell said:
When guys like Calipari or Saban put their money where their mouths are on this stuff, I'll start believing they aren't just trying to keep players under control.

Either of those two could spend 1% of their annual earnings to run a month long summer camp for every player in the SEC that taught financial literacy. They could bring in guys who blew through their rookie contracts and hit the skids, and former D-1 athletes who parlayed their degrees and networks from college into fulfilling careers.

Or, if we're to buy into their personal mythologies of being mentors who mold young men into leaders, they could do the hard work of showing their players the paths to success off of the field, and be able to convince them not to transfer every year.

There has to be a better solution than making guys sit for a year, or trying to enforce ridiculously punitive contracts like the Georgia guy who transferred out.
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I agree that they're doing much more to point out the problems (from the biased perspective of a coach) than they are presenting solutions I see as fair or viable. Reforms are definitely needed.
 
I agree with Calipari that eliminating transfers over and over again is a major problem. However, making that change cannot happen without a CBA or anti-trust exemption. People tend to conveniently forget that the courts have ruled on this.

Also, even though he is correct, it’s pretty hypocritical for a coach to say it, since they also “extort” schools by saying pay me X dollars or I’m leaving to go somewhere else, which also burns bridges with alumni/boosters in the state. Otherwise, he’d still be at Umass.
 
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