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Official 2014 Colorado v Arizona Pac12 Tournament Game Thread (Round 3)
- Thread starter Darth Snow
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Give it a rest. I know you're frustrated. But I don't know what you expected tonight. Arizona is a lot better than Colorado this year. It's an especially tough matchup when you're outmanned and both teams play the same style. CU's strengths are matched and trumped by UofA's this year. Spencer was the guy who could tilt that for the Buffs by allowing us to win the guard battle. But we don't have Spencer any more. Buffs might be a Sweet 16 team, but Arizona would beat us 95 times out of 100.
OUBuff
American
My comment was a little envious, not anything against what they were doing. I only wish we had that mentality with a lead at the 5 minute mark
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
Yeesh. Guys. Arizona is the best team in the country. We were on our 3rd game in 3 days (byes matter). We improved our seed this week, a loss to Arizona does nothing negative to our seed.
You know that Arizona doesn't start a single senior. Sure let's keep using youth as an excuse.
OUBuff
American
He really seems to have trouble w/ a double and we never seem to have an outlet for the double we know is coming
Look I expected to get rolled tonight but I saw a lack of effort again tonight. I keep seeing guys on the team that love basketball but don't love to win. I want to see guys scrap and fight for every board and every loose ball.
Booker is turning into my favorite player because the kid has so much heart. He is absolutely fearless and fights to get to the rim on offense and works his ass off on defense.
Is Utah soft as well? I mean, they lost by 32 yesterday. It seems like you're a big fan of small sample sizes so surely you'll only look at one game since that's what you seem to be doing here.
You're seeing something that I'm not sure anyone else is.
Ski, as you said, played like you'd expect from the only upperclassman who got minutes. But I can't think of a single guy I could call out for effort tonight. Closest would be Wes, but that was more a matter of foul trouble that took him out of his game.
What I think you saw was fresh legs versus tired legs and you are misinterpreting that as effort. Buff fought hard tonight.
Probably you are all well aware, but that is the 4th lowest point total AZ has scored this year. 60 twice on the road and they lost one. We are coming along nicely. Offense is confidence, and AZ has a great ability to shake that. Tourney is gonna be here soon and I bet we are a handful 
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Probably you are all well aware, but that is the 4th lowest point total AZ has scored this year. 60 twice on the road and thy lost one. We are coming along nicely. Offense is confidence, and AZ has a great ability to shake that. Tourney is gonna be here soon and I bet we are a handful
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Unfortunately, we just don't have much margin for error. 2012 Dance type team. More athletic, but doesn't have the veteran savvy we had with Carlon, Austin and Nate. We could make the Sweet 16 with the right draw.
Deleted member 807
Guest
Tonight's outcome did not show the progression and heart I was expecting.
Arizona was not going to be denied in the second half. Miller has the cats rolling. Congrats to them. Nick Johnson showed why he is conference MVP.
Back to film study.
Arizona was not going to be denied in the second half. Miller has the cats rolling. Congrats to them. Nick Johnson showed why he is conference MVP.
Back to film study.
Is Utah soft as well? I mean, they lost by 32 yesterday. It seems like you're a big fan of small sample sizes so surely you'll only look at one game since that's what you seem to be doing here.
Sorry I didn't watch your other team play.
I hope it was tired legs but I feel like it is a 50-50 ball stat. Your guy versus their guy both fighting for the ball whoever wants it more gets it. I felt like we gave up in the 2 and half once they made a few ****s and we didn't. We were slower to rotate a bit slower fighting off screens. I think if we score points we dig deep and fight for those possessions.
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
I think CU's run in 2012 created some misperceptions amongst Buff fans. Byes are a BIG ****ing deal in conference tournaments. It hits you in the semifinal second half if you've been playing for 3 games. We ran out of gas against Cal and Arizona in 2012 and held on for dear life. With the conference now being so much better, that was never an option for us against an Arizona squad that's best in the nation.
Congrats to Adam (Pachoops), Air-Zona, and the couple of other "good" UofA posters we have here ... you have a great team that should do very well in the Dance. I hope we can grow our program to the point that we can give you some serious competition (again) in the near future. Good luck!
Parallax
New Member
Thanks for all the kind comments about Arizona. You guys had me worried in the first half. I think it's true that the Buffs were gassed from having played two tough games the two previous days. Glad to get out of this one with the W. Had Colorado been rested, I don't think it would have been a blow out.
One last thought and I don't mean to rub salt in the wound but Godon's block of XJ was the kind of thing one has to admire no matter what team you root for. After seeing that, I felt like I had just witnessed something rare and special like a triple play or a hole in one. In hoops terms, what would come close? Maybe a triple double.
One last thought and I don't mean to rub salt in the wound but Godon's block of XJ was the kind of thing one has to admire no matter what team you root for. After seeing that, I felt like I had just witnessed something rare and special like a triple play or a hole in one. In hoops terms, what would come close? Maybe a triple double.
Man, I don't know. That was sick. XJ was going for it with bad intentions too. Gordon got smacked in the face with the off hand and still was able to control the play. Probably the best defensive play I've seen this year.
Also, now that I've seen Gordon a few times I'm thinking I'd take him over the other hyped freshman. I like him better than Parker, Wiggins or Randle. Defensively he's reminding me of Joakim Noah, but he's got a high level Point Forward game to go with it on offense. Special, special player.
Parallax
New Member
Hey thanks. Yeah, Gordon's a big part of what makes this team special. The offense isn't always there but the defense is off the charts. He can guard anyone, one through five. He's smart with the ball and has a great handle. Offensive rebounding's a real strength but he can get pushed around on the D glass sometimes. Needs to keep developing his body, particularly his legs. I think that would help with the shot too because his form's not bad.
No question we're going to miss him next year. Miller will have to recruit at a very high level to maintain this kind of excellence.
Boyle's an excellent coach. I think he, Miller and Krystowiak are (in no particular order) the three best coaches in the Pac-12. At one time I would have placed Monty at the top of the heap too but I think he's lost something in the last couple of years.
Monty's the best in the conference if the question is "which coach would you have draw up a play to get you a good shot?". Absolute master at situational game management. He's close to retirement, though.
Anyway, you named my favorite 3. It used to be 4, but something took a wrong turn with Romar when he brought Wroten in and had Hikeem Stewart wash out from that 2011 class. Amazing how that class was supposed to solidify them as a top program but it ended up gutting things.
Anyway, you named my favorite 3. It used to be 4, but something took a wrong turn with Romar when he brought Wroten in and had Hikeem Stewart wash out from that 2011 class. Amazing how that class was supposed to solidify them as a top program but it ended up gutting things.
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
Romar needs to get out. He should have seen it coming a year or two ago when his stock was higher. I know he played at UW and has a love for the program, but things have been stale for a while and he needed to pull a Sendek and find a new start somewhere. He still can, but this year didn't do him any favors.
aik
Well-Known Member
I wasn't near my computer for this game or I would've flipped it over in frustration from not being able to buy a bucket. So this may have been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, but I'm tired of seeing offensive plays where Josh Scott spends 20 seconds of the shot clock at the top of the 3-point line.
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400546304
Because 23 wins, an RPI of 32, an SOS of 13, numerous quality wins and zero bad losses means nothing if you're a western team.
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I thought those NJ slams were insane. Do you guys think he is leaving after this year?
I sure hope so.
cubuffs85
Active Member
Yep or we could get bounced in the first round with the wrong matchup. A lot of this just comes down to how the chips fall especially when you're not a top seed.