Chilly
Well-Known Member
Many are pointing to Hawks "Body of Work" as evidence that he can't coach for jack diddle.
Lets throw out all the image posiitives and recruiting obstacles he had to over come the first 2 years he was here.
Let's agree to call year 1 a throw away year. We all know just how bad it had gotten and I don't think there is a coach on this planet that could have done much better given where we were at.
Lets just look at his record that last 2 years.
Aug. 31, 2008 Colorado State (FSN) W 38-17
Sept. 6, 2008 E. Washington W 31-24
Sept. 18, 2008 West Virginia (ESPN) W 17-14
Sept. 27, 2008 at Florida State (ABC) L 39-21
Starts out 3-1 and has beaten the 2 teams he should have and beat a toss up game.
Oct. 4, 2008 Texas (FSN) L 38-14
Oct. 11, 2008 at Kansas (ESPN2) L 30-14
Loses to two highly ranked teams. No we didn't look good losing, but does anyone believe he should have this team beating Texas and KU at this point in the rebuilding process?
Oct. 18, 2008 Kansas State (FSN-RM) W 14-13
Tough game but we come out with a win against a team that is probably close to us talent wise.
Oct. 25, 2008 at Missouri (FSN) L 58-0 4-4
yes another bad loss, but this is again I very highly ranked team. Did anyone really expect to win this game.
Nov. 1, 2008 at Texas A&M L 24-17 4-5
Very tough loss. Would have like to have one this game, but it's on the road and again I would say just like KSU A&M is a close parallel to the Buffs. Losing to them on the road is not a killer especially in well played game.
Nov. 8, 2008 Iowa State (Versus) W 28-24
Shouldn't be close but never excuse a win
Nov. 15, 2008 OK State (ABC) L 30-17
Another top ranked team that we should have all known would most likely not be a win at this point in the rebuilding process
Nov. 28, 2008 at Nebraska L 40-31
tough loss here just like the A&M loss. But we took them to the wire on the road. Nothing to be ashamed of in this game.
Sept. 1, 2007 Colorado State (FSN) W 31-28
Sept. 8, 2007 at Arizona State (FSN) L 33-14
Sept. 15, 2007 Florida State (ESPN) L 16-6
Sept. 22, 2007 Miami-OH W 42-0
Beats 2 teams he should and loses the 2 that would have been very tough wins.
Sept. 29, 2007 Oklahoma (FSN) W 27-24
Beats a team at home that no one gave us a chance against.
Oct. 6, 2007 at Baylor W 43-23
Beats a team on the road that he should have beat.
Oct. 13, 2007 at Kansas State (ESPN2) L 47-20
Tough loss here, but it's on the road with a young team rebuilding. I would have liked to see better, but it's one of those tough loses along the way sometimes.
Oct. 20, 2007 Kansas (ESPN) L 19-14
tough game against a top 20 team.
Oct. 27, 2007 at Texas Tech (ABC) W 31-26
Great win on the road against a team that is on par with CU in my book right now.
Nov. 3, 2007 Missouri (FSN) L 55-10
Bad loss to a top 10 team. No suprises here.
Nov. 10, 2007 at Iowa State L 31-28
This should have never been a loss, and to my way of thinking the worse loss in Hawkins time at CU. Up 28-0 at halftime. Losing this game was BAD really really BAD. Negates the TTU win on the road.
Nov. 23, 2007 Nebraska (ABC) W 65-51
Beats NU at home. What more do we want?
Dec. 30, 2007 Alabama L 30-24
Poor first half, and just not enough in the tank to pull it out.
I look at the last two years and I just don't see what everyone else is seeing I guess. It appears we have won and lost most of the games we should have and had some surprise wins and losses along the way that about even out.
I believe he is on schedule with were you expect him to be after year 3. A bowl game would have been nice last year, but we played a brutal Big 12 schedule.
I am more prone to believe that the CSU game is one of those suprise loses this year and that he is going to finish the year about where you would expect. 7 to 8 wins with a young team and bowl game. Look at the roster. How many seniors are starting. 10 wins and no excuses wasn't meant for the fans. It was meant for the players. It wasn't meant to instill confidence and accountability. But no one should have expected 10 wins this year. 7-8 is realistic. I would expect that this team will "grow up" before our eyes this season. Next year is the year this team explodes.
Year 5 is where it will hit the fan.
Lets throw out all the image posiitives and recruiting obstacles he had to over come the first 2 years he was here.
Let's agree to call year 1 a throw away year. We all know just how bad it had gotten and I don't think there is a coach on this planet that could have done much better given where we were at.
Lets just look at his record that last 2 years.
Aug. 31, 2008 Colorado State (FSN) W 38-17
Sept. 6, 2008 E. Washington W 31-24
Sept. 18, 2008 West Virginia (ESPN) W 17-14
Sept. 27, 2008 at Florida State (ABC) L 39-21
Starts out 3-1 and has beaten the 2 teams he should have and beat a toss up game.
Oct. 4, 2008 Texas (FSN) L 38-14
Oct. 11, 2008 at Kansas (ESPN2) L 30-14
Loses to two highly ranked teams. No we didn't look good losing, but does anyone believe he should have this team beating Texas and KU at this point in the rebuilding process?
Oct. 18, 2008 Kansas State (FSN-RM) W 14-13
Tough game but we come out with a win against a team that is probably close to us talent wise.
Oct. 25, 2008 at Missouri (FSN) L 58-0 4-4
yes another bad loss, but this is again I very highly ranked team. Did anyone really expect to win this game.
Nov. 1, 2008 at Texas A&M L 24-17 4-5
Very tough loss. Would have like to have one this game, but it's on the road and again I would say just like KSU A&M is a close parallel to the Buffs. Losing to them on the road is not a killer especially in well played game.
Nov. 8, 2008 Iowa State (Versus) W 28-24
Shouldn't be close but never excuse a win
Nov. 15, 2008 OK State (ABC) L 30-17
Another top ranked team that we should have all known would most likely not be a win at this point in the rebuilding process
Nov. 28, 2008 at Nebraska L 40-31
tough loss here just like the A&M loss. But we took them to the wire on the road. Nothing to be ashamed of in this game.
Sept. 1, 2007 Colorado State (FSN) W 31-28
Sept. 8, 2007 at Arizona State (FSN) L 33-14
Sept. 15, 2007 Florida State (ESPN) L 16-6
Sept. 22, 2007 Miami-OH W 42-0
Beats 2 teams he should and loses the 2 that would have been very tough wins.
Sept. 29, 2007 Oklahoma (FSN) W 27-24
Beats a team at home that no one gave us a chance against.
Oct. 6, 2007 at Baylor W 43-23
Beats a team on the road that he should have beat.
Oct. 13, 2007 at Kansas State (ESPN2) L 47-20
Tough loss here, but it's on the road with a young team rebuilding. I would have liked to see better, but it's one of those tough loses along the way sometimes.
Oct. 20, 2007 Kansas (ESPN) L 19-14
tough game against a top 20 team.
Oct. 27, 2007 at Texas Tech (ABC) W 31-26
Great win on the road against a team that is on par with CU in my book right now.
Nov. 3, 2007 Missouri (FSN) L 55-10
Bad loss to a top 10 team. No suprises here.
Nov. 10, 2007 at Iowa State L 31-28
This should have never been a loss, and to my way of thinking the worse loss in Hawkins time at CU. Up 28-0 at halftime. Losing this game was BAD really really BAD. Negates the TTU win on the road.
Nov. 23, 2007 Nebraska (ABC) W 65-51
Beats NU at home. What more do we want?
Dec. 30, 2007 Alabama L 30-24
Poor first half, and just not enough in the tank to pull it out.
I look at the last two years and I just don't see what everyone else is seeing I guess. It appears we have won and lost most of the games we should have and had some surprise wins and losses along the way that about even out.
I believe he is on schedule with were you expect him to be after year 3. A bowl game would have been nice last year, but we played a brutal Big 12 schedule.
I am more prone to believe that the CSU game is one of those suprise loses this year and that he is going to finish the year about where you would expect. 7 to 8 wins with a young team and bowl game. Look at the roster. How many seniors are starting. 10 wins and no excuses wasn't meant for the fans. It was meant for the players. It wasn't meant to instill confidence and accountability. But no one should have expected 10 wins this year. 7-8 is realistic. I would expect that this team will "grow up" before our eyes this season. Next year is the year this team explodes.
Year 5 is where it will hit the fan.