Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by FChairbanks, Mar 7, 2010.
wouldn't a cu invitation to join the pac10 require that we establish a baseball program?
This is a worry to me. We've been cutting sports (they cut a top-ranked Tennis program when I was there)... won't the Pac-10 want us to add sports? Seems like a pretty big hurdle for us to face.
I don't see why it would. The Big 12 is a great baseball conference and CU doesn't participate. I'd love for it to happen, though. And DiStefano did talk about making room for sports fields when he addressed the Boulder town council in regard to redevelopment of the Hill. He may have been talking more about a softball field for intramurals, but who knows?
the difference being that every team in the pac10 has a baseball program, and there are two teams in the xii that don't.
i would love to see this move as an impetus to establishing a baseball program. i just wonder if the current administration has the balls to make it happen...(literally and figuratively)
Please make a BB team. It would be great to see teams like Arizona St, and Oregon St come down to Boulder. So we could beat their asses of course. :smile:
I don't think baseball would be a must...Oregon just re-added baseball last year after dropping it in the early 80's...
I'm with you. CU athletics doesn't have much going on in the spring. I'd love to have baseball & softball to follow. Decent in-state talent, too. I also wonders if it hurts us a bit in football recruiting that we don't have a baseball program. Lots of guys play baseball (especially in CA and TX) as well as football. I'm just not so sure that a non-revenue sport would be a requirement... unless a Pac-12 Network needed baseball for spring programming.
I'd almost think it would be a requirement for admission. Baseball and softball. We are now at the minimum number of varsity sports to even be D1. That is just ridiculous.
As part of the admissions requirement I think the Pac-10 would require us to re-establish a baseball program within 2-4 years.
As someone above already mentioned, we have pretty good talent base here in Colorado. I'd buy season tickets. GO BUFFS!!
Yes, I believe moving to the Pac will open up more sports for our student-athletes in the future.
Not to mention the chance to kick UDubs asses on a consistent basis.
As all good things in life, my current bragging rights will too quickly end...:smile2:
The Pac-10 schools are all hurting financially and they will not be at all offended by not having to travel to CU to play baseball, since it's a non-revenue sport. Not only are you dealing with travel costs, but if weather forces reschedules, get ready for the airlines to gauge you. Plus, no one expects a school with a NCAA Ski team to also be a baseball school. I'd love to see it but since it adds costs and does nothing for revenue, it will be a non-issue. Basketball and Football is all they will care about ($$$).
Basketball, football, golf, skiing, swimming, tennis, baseball - Utah
Basketball, football, golf, skiing, cross country, track-n-field - Colorado
Basketball, football, golf, cross country, track-n-field, baseball, tennis - Oregon
Cal has 13 mens sports. UCLA has 10. Expect that number to come under pressure in the current budget slashing environment in California.
according to the ringo article today, quoting a p10 official... they only require that a potential team field the minimum number of sports that the ncaa requires (we do that) and they require football, men and women bb, and women's vb. we are covered. plus, they can add national titles in skiing from us and utah -- they like bragging about all the titles in diff. sports they have won.
we'd be the only school in the conf. without a baseball program (and so i think one would be agenda 1 for when we try to add sports) but it isn't a show-stopper that we don't have one. adding a baseball team would, of course, require the addition of another women's team, too.
it is all good. in two years, i hope to barely remember how much i disliked some of the academic cesspools we are currently forced to compete against.
Does UTAH have a baseball program??
Utah has the following:
Baseball & Softball
Basketball (Men's & Women's)
Cross Country (Women's only)
Golf (Men's only)
Gymnastics (Women's only)
Skiing (Men's & Women's)
Soccer (Women's only)
Swimming/Diving (Men's & Women's)
Tennis (Men's & Women's)
Track & Field (Women's only)
Volleyball (Women's only)
I'd love for someone to explain to me how Utah supports more programs than the CU athletic department on a budget that's $25 million less than ours. Something's not adding up for me.
Wait. Where would they put a baseball field on the hill?
It wouldn't be on the Hill. It would probably be on the South Campus, where the tennis facility and cross country areas are. CU has been trying, for about 20 years, to expand that whole area into an athletic campus, but the City of Boulder is holding it up over a pissing match over the Grandview Terrace redevelopment. The City of Boulder doesn't have a lot of sway, but it can withhold water taps, which is exactly what it's doing.
I believe what DiStefano is trying to get on the Hill are a couple rectangular fields for soccer or flag football and a softball field. These would not be stadiums, more for intramurals and whatnot. He was also talking about the Hill being the place for a new regional Convention Center + hotel, adding new student dormitories, and finally providing family housing that doesn't look like a slum tenement. The city had been talking about wanting the Hill to improve the quality of its buildings, have more community-friendly shops & restaurants, and fewer student rental housing so that it was populated by more full-time residents that kept their home nice (CU needs to have more students living in dorms to accomplish this). Part of the reason for this is because CU is expecting undergraduate enrollment to increase by well over 20% in the next 10 years (and maybe as much as 50%) and needs to have the facilities to support that kind of growth.
Anyway, after DiStefano presented the Boulder city council was a little blown away with how big the vision is. They agree with it, though, and asked DiStefano to start meeting with them once a month instead of once a semester. Statements were made about a lot hinging on the economy turning around, which I don't quite understand since construction costs and real estate acquisition costs would be lower in a down economy.
The South Campus Tennis Complex area is ripe for development as the sports fields area.
OK if CU brings back baseball and adds softball I am in - won't happen but I can dream. I would love to see the Buffs in Omaha or OKC in the Spring.
If they wanted to keep local businesses on the hill, the hill association or whatever it was called should not have run all of the local businesses off of the hill.
Would you settle for them bringing back football?
re: intramural fields. i think that is a waste of land, mostly. how often do they get used? a couple times a week. they've already fenced in Franklin Field so students can't use it to throw the frisbee, get high, honeys sunbathing. a long time ago, the parking structure east of the UMC was an open field and hang spot...forget what that was called. the Kittridge fields have sport turf...who wants to sunbathe on sportsturf? less of the land needs to be organized for single use that occurs a few times a week that excludes other more casual uses. JMO.
re: family housing/faculty staff apartments....that whole area would have been razed (minus Newton Court maybe) a long time ago were it not in the flood plain. i live in faculty/staff and as a grad student lived in fam housing (though i'm single) and it's a pretty moribund housing concept these days. i have a 2 BR and i'm single. there are some families but an equal number of people like me or visiting profs. it also sort of doubles as international student housing, as well. minus the flood plain issue, i would say that's where they would have built new dorms 10-15 years ago with a central dining commissary and parking.
edit: though i will say my first paragraph is one perspective on how a campus should be. I also work at DU and they have definitely grown themselves as a university by focusing on DU being a "sporty" campus with kick ass work out facilities. in admissions competition for today's students weaned on vitamin water and energy drinks....they want that sport image of the campus. so, maybe it is more forward looking than i give it credit. but, i still don't agree with it. i think it's sort of more like fun camp with coffee shops than school. but, i'm biased as an erst-while educator.
and to prove i'm not a total curmudgeon, i would LOVE to have baseball back.
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