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Receiving Catch Rates - Passing Downs vs Standard Downs

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by jgisland, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

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    The guys over at footballstudyhall.com put together some great data for the last 7 years on DI receiver catch rates, % targeted and all of this broken down into Passing Downs vs Standard Downs. It is very difficult to sort though so I parsed just the CU data from last year and included it below. Here is the original article explaning it all. I can add previous CU years if anybody want to take a look at the breakdown.

    ALL PASSESSTANDARD DOWNSPASSING DOWNS
    YearTeamPlayerTargetsCatchesYardsCatchRateYdsPerTargetTarget %YdsPerCatchTargetsCatchesYardsCatchRateYdsPerTargetTarget %YdsPerCatchTargetsCatchesYardsCatchRateYdsPerTargetTarget %YdsPerCatch
    2011ColoradoToney Clemons794368054.4%8.618.8%15.8382135055.3%9.217.7%16.7412233053.7%8.019.9%15.0
    2011ColoradoPaul Richardson744056954.1%7.717.6%14.2462633556.5%7.321.4%12.9281423450.0%8.413.6%16.7
    2011ColoradoRodney Stewart714557163.4%8.016.9%12.7332322269.7%6.715.3%9.7382234957.9%9.218.4%15.9
    2011ColoradoRyan Deehan382432263.2%8.59.0%13.4201619180.0%9.69.3%11.918813144.4%7.38.7%16.4
    2011ColoradoTony Jones332716881.8%5.17.8%6.216136681.3%4.17.4%5.1171410282.4%6.08.3%7.3
    2011ColoradoLogan Gray311830058.1%9.77.4%16.71187372.7%6.65.1%9.1201022750.0%11.49.7%22.7
    2011ColoradoKeenan Canty311416145.2%5.27.4%11.51878038.9%4.48.4%11.41378153.8%6.26.3%11.6
    2011ColoradoTyler McCulloch2098245.0%4.14.8%9.11387361.5%5.66.0%9.171914.3%1.33.4%9.0
    2011ColoradoKyle Cefalo13108576.9%6.53.1%8.5752671.4%3.73.3%5.2655983.3%9.82.9%11.8
    2011ColoradoDaVaughn Thornton1266950.0%5.82.9%11.5436075.0%15.01.9%20.083937.5%1.13.9%3.0
     
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  2. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Dude, I'm so happy right now. FOOTBALL STATS!!! WHO WANTS A MUSTACHE RIDE?

    even though your stats make me cringe. Wow, we are really going to miss Logan Gray & Deehan more than we thought next year. Their replacements had awful #s. TyMc/Canty have to take a HUGE leap this year.
     
  3. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

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    And also Speedy, even if the OL is better, (which I have doubts about) they are going to bust some assignments and Connor is going to have to be able to dump it to a RB, speedy got the 3rd most targets on passing downs. CU is going to need the RB's to catch a lot of balls this year.
     
  4. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    I have been waiting anxiously for this day. Football stats.... YES. GLORY GLORY COLORADO
     
  5. lawdogg

    lawdogg Club Member Club Member

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    Good news here is that though he was less productive from a yards per catch standpoint, Tony Jones was apparently fairly sure-handed as a receiver when given the opportunity as his completion percentages are fairly decent.
     
  6. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    But Paul Richardson is not really a big loss, or so I have read.
     
  7. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

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    Speedys numbers reflect how good this team is at the screen pass. I expect that this years numbers will be similar.
     
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    tante Club Member Club Member

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    yikes our top three targets are all gone.
     
  9. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    fify.

    And you can make that 5 of the top 6. :scared2:
     
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    tante Club Member Club Member

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    we are going to put a RB in the NFL in the next few years, NFL coaches love these RB's who can run and catch. I think speedy with be signed as an UDFA and would be a draft pick if he was bigger.
     
  11. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

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    How big of a reason do you think it was that we saw so much of the screen pass last year was b/c of the offensive lines inability to sustain blocks? I get that the screen pass is a big part of the pro-style offensive, but it will be interesting to see if they call as many this year as last year, or if they were using the screen pass as a stop-gap last year.
     
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    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    it was a pretty awesome stop gap. I'm ok with it.
     
  13. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    It is not a stop-gap. Marshall is the best screen coach Barnett has ever seen (heard him say this last season on a radio broadcast. Given that this staff has big ties to the Barnett era, expect screens to be a staple of this offense going forward.
     
  14. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Plus, there in college, the linemen can move down field, increasing the screen play's effectiveness compared to the pro's. Embree has stated multiple times that he loves him some screen.
     
  15. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    I think we went to the screen a lot more last year due to nothing else really working that well. I'd be surprised if we use it as much in the future once we get our players/system in place
     
  16. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    The good thing is that the screen works even better when other aspects of your offense are also working well. I hope we use it less, but more effectively because the defense has to worry about our regular passing and running game.
     
  17. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

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    This was my point, not that the screen was a stop-gap but the frequency CU used the screen was the stop-gap. If they continue to run the screen at the frequency they did last year that means continued struggles for the offense.
     
  18. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    I just said it better. :smile2:
     
  19. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I think we'll see as much or more. Most NFL offensive coaches say that if they had the college rules allowing OLs to go downfield on screen passes that they'd call the play nearly every down. EB, Embo, Marshall, and Rip are all from that school. I expect to be a great screen team into the future.
     
  20. Daaah

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    We will be known as Screen U.
     

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