OTOH... maybe it's time to start some serious self reporting... fire the mother****er for cause.
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Rick George: 9/10/22
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Yeah, I keep going through this in my mind and the timelines just won't match up for all three to be gone in '22-23. I think we have to hope that PD retires at the end of the School year (seems like more than smoke) and KD is relieved of his duties with a very friendly buyout at the end of the season. Sailman takes over managing CU-Boulder and overseeing RG. I'd assume finding a new Chancellor will take some time, so that might not be a bad thing.
We probably have to endure RG for another four years, but at that point, with a lot less restrictions, he can make a quality hire who can turn the football program around pretty quickly. Honestly, this is probably best case scenario.
Yeah, he seems to have disappeared since KD was hired.
A friend of mine was the one who posted his letter to Sailman on 247. I need to reach out to see if he got a response or not.
ahoelsken
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If PD goes and Rick runs everything he's doing through Saliman, let's do it.
Saliman I'm willing to give BOTD to based on what I hear.
You Have to vote out the regents folks! They are the ones making the hires and calling the shots! Only you in CO can do this. Otherwise your going to get the same sh**! Otherwise quit complaining. The regents in the late 80’s - 90’s valued athletics. These a hole think cu is the Harvard of the west. Which we all know is a complete joke.
Who do the regents hire?
ahoelsken
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John Eastman used CU email account to advise Pennsylvania legislator on challenging that state’s 2020 election results
John Eastman, CU Boulder’s visiting professor of conservative thought and policy during the 2020-2021 academic year, has come under increasing scrutiny for his role in advising Donald Trump o…
www.denverpost.com
Here's another reason to dump Dr. Phil for cause.
The fact they haven't addressed this as an administration makes me agree.John Eastman used CU email account to advise Pennsylvania legislator on challenging that state’s 2020 election results
John Eastman, CU Boulder’s visiting professor of conservative thought and policy during the 2020-2021 academic year, has come under increasing scrutiny for his role in advising Donald Trump o…
Here's another reason to dump Dr. Phil for cause.
ahoelsken
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Its one about 15 different instances that in my view are justification to dump him for cause-lots of stuff with Joe Tumpkin.....that threat last spring from the UCLA professor or whoever he was (somehow UCLA locked down and CU did not).
Just couldn’t stop on your Tad take huh?
SerenityBuff
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I was at that game sitting a few rows in front of RG. He was loud, passionate, and engaged. He's a shell of his former self now.
It’s institutional. The rot, neglect and apathy from the top sucks the life from everything.
brettden
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CU's issue is rooted in the leadership which I think is the regents. To one degree or another everyone is beholden to them.
To further exacerbate CU' problem(s) is the misguided view that somehow that leadership group is presiding over some elite institution. Ivy league schools are elite academically. Stanford is elite academically, CU is not. Not even close. In fact I'd argue since Saban's Crimson tide beat Hawkins' Buffs many years ago that Bama has enrolled and produced more elite academic graduates than CU. Preach to me all day long about research money, elite faculty, academic freedom - the athletes make the money, the students (and their competition to enroll) build the academic rep.
Football money raises all boats. Seems like most schools, even the lambs, get that more than the CU leadership does. Nothing will change for CU until the priorities line up. Fine, noble even, to have goals for the academic institution, but if the money maker continues to fail so will every other goal.
To further exacerbate CU' problem(s) is the misguided view that somehow that leadership group is presiding over some elite institution. Ivy league schools are elite academically. Stanford is elite academically, CU is not. Not even close. In fact I'd argue since Saban's Crimson tide beat Hawkins' Buffs many years ago that Bama has enrolled and produced more elite academic graduates than CU. Preach to me all day long about research money, elite faculty, academic freedom - the athletes make the money, the students (and their competition to enroll) build the academic rep.
Football money raises all boats. Seems like most schools, even the lambs, get that more than the CU leadership does. Nothing will change for CU until the priorities line up. Fine, noble even, to have goals for the academic institution, but if the money maker continues to fail so will every other goal.
I agree with this in general.
It's why, if I were to magically become a kabillionaire, my first priority would be a super-pac to fund regent elections, even before funding a robust NIL program.
That being said, I also believe that a good university president could manage the board of regents in a way that could right the ship.
The difficulty is that the process used to select the president isn't necessarily calibrated to push someone like that to the top. Unlike others, I don't believe it is calibrated to exclude someone like that either. Basically, it's a crap shoot in terms of ending up with the right person in that role.
Sooner or later, we've got to roll another 7 like we did with Gordon Gee.
Formerly_Medford
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I haven't supported him since I found out he follows every right wing nut job on Twitter.
If football was averaging 8+ wins per year since RG got here, he could be a flat earther who only drinks rain water & grain alcohol, tans his scrotum and believes grey aliens were behind 9/11... and I would give zero fvcks.
I can’t wait for him to ink the next coach to a 100% remote, fully guaranteed contract.
Will we have the funds for a sideline track for the coach’s Zoom laptop, or will we have a student run up and down?
Will we have the funds for a sideline track for the coach’s Zoom laptop, or will we have a student run up and down?
So much this. I don't have to like the guy. Just win without being scummy like bailer. Cheat if necessary. Just like literally everyone else.
Boulder
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Outside of a few schools academics simply do not matter. It does not matter if your degree comes from insert state school here or insert other state school here. CU will never be a Michigan much less a Stanford but it is what leadership and stakeholders at the university think they are. Football is just an outward indicator of the malaise and overall disfunction that exists at all levels of the university.
I don't believe this is true. CU could be a Michigan in a generation or so if they wanted to be. Nothing I've seen suggests to me that the leadership have the political willpower or wherewithal to do so.
I can’t wrap my head around how campus leadership can fancy themselves some kind of academic powerhouse when their academic rankings keep falling.
Their heads are in the clouds?
Maddenesque!!
SerenityBuff
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Same way Dorrell thinks things are improving while the blowouts continue. Delusion. I've noticed that pretty much all people in power are grossly arrogant and rarely if ever admit that they are failing. They can't even fathom it.
Arrogance with abosutely nothing to back it up. Just ridiculous.
ahoelsken
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Nik put it more eloquently than I could have......but he's right. If the football program had gone to more than 3 bowls in the last two decades, I couldn't care less about RG's political views.
That only matters because he hasn't done a ****ing thing correctly since Tucker left.
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buffs04
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As best I can tell, CUs “rankings” (ranking, more aptly, i.e. USNews) have been dropping specifically because of the undergrad acceptance rate. I do not know exactly why the UG accept rate is so high (maybe CU makes it very clear who will and won’t get in before the application phase) but that is a pretty poor measure of overall academic quality for a serious research university like CU.
I am by no means a CU apologist but CU is a good university academically.