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Oregon vs CU
Michael Clay, Diante Jackson, and Cliff Harris were three players that chose the Ducks over the Buffs. I decided to do a little research to find out why.
Location: Diante Jackson – Walnut Creek, California
Michael Clay – San Jose, California
Cliff Harris – Fresno, California
Location probably played a huge reason why they chose Oregon.
Win-losses
Oregon 2000 – 10-2 ...................2000 – 3-8
2001 – 11-1 ...............................2001 – 10-3
2002 – 7-6 ..................................2002 – 9-5
2003 – 8-5 ...................................2003 – 5-7
2004 – 5-6 ..................................2004 – 8-5 ................OREGON
2005 – 10-2 ................................2005 – 7-5................. Brooks 1994 – 9-3
2006 – 7-6.............. Hawkins Era 2006 – 2-10............... Belloti 1995 – 9-3
2007 – 9-4 ..................................2007 – 6-7............................. 1996 – 6-5
2008 – 10-3................................ 2008 – 5-7............................. 1997 – 7-5
1998 – 8-4
1999 – 9-3
In 15 years, Belloti had 14 winning seasons. It wasn’t until his fifth that he achieved double digit wins. Of interest to note, he inherited a program that went 9-3 from than coach Rich Brooks. Hawkins inherited the train wreck that was the Barnett era. Given his starting point, I think Hawkins is doing just fine. Also must point out that the big 12 competition he faces is probably tougher that what Belloti had to deal with it. Nonetheless, Oregon has clearly won more games in the recent past.
Academics
CU Ranking – 77th Oregon – 108th
In state tuition - $7, 278 - $6,291
Out of state tuition - $24, 936 - $19,428
We have em when it comes to academics.
Stadium
Autzen Stadium – Houses 60,000
On October 27, 2007 in a game against USC, the crowd of 59,277 was able to reach a noise level of 127.2 decibels, the loudest ever recorded at a college football gameWikipedia
Folsom Stadium - The largest crowd for a football game was 54,972, when the Buffs played Colorado State on September 3, 2005
X Factors
We have the better mascot, and more scenic campus. On the other hand, they have Nike..thought we do too? They were also the first team to have a state of the arch-in door facility in the pac 10. On the other hand, CU has had a national championship. Its no wonder there’s a tug of war going on. Most side with Oregon for reasons mentioned below.
Conclusion: Location, and better facilities are probably what got recruits thinking Oregon. While the win-loss thing couldn’t have helped, Hawkins is showing a trend that somewhat mirrors Belloti in terms of wins and losses. One can only wonder what CU would be doing if we had the indoor facilities Oregon has. In order to beat Oregon, Hawkins must find a way deal with their superior resources. With Michael Clay, he probably went to Oregon is good part because of the debt chart at LB here in Boulder. With Diante Jackson, it was his parents. With Cliff Harris, who knows. Perhaps this provides insight
Michael Clay, Diante Jackson, and Cliff Harris were three players that chose the Ducks over the Buffs. I decided to do a little research to find out why.
Location: Diante Jackson – Walnut Creek, California
Michael Clay – San Jose, California
Cliff Harris – Fresno, California
Location probably played a huge reason why they chose Oregon.
Win-losses
Oregon 2000 – 10-2 ...................2000 – 3-8
2001 – 11-1 ...............................2001 – 10-3
2002 – 7-6 ..................................2002 – 9-5
2003 – 8-5 ...................................2003 – 5-7
2004 – 5-6 ..................................2004 – 8-5 ................OREGON
2005 – 10-2 ................................2005 – 7-5................. Brooks 1994 – 9-3
2006 – 7-6.............. Hawkins Era 2006 – 2-10............... Belloti 1995 – 9-3
2007 – 9-4 ..................................2007 – 6-7............................. 1996 – 6-5
2008 – 10-3................................ 2008 – 5-7............................. 1997 – 7-5
1998 – 8-4
1999 – 9-3
In 15 years, Belloti had 14 winning seasons. It wasn’t until his fifth that he achieved double digit wins. Of interest to note, he inherited a program that went 9-3 from than coach Rich Brooks. Hawkins inherited the train wreck that was the Barnett era. Given his starting point, I think Hawkins is doing just fine. Also must point out that the big 12 competition he faces is probably tougher that what Belloti had to deal with it. Nonetheless, Oregon has clearly won more games in the recent past.
Academics
CU Ranking – 77th Oregon – 108th
In state tuition - $7, 278 - $6,291
Out of state tuition - $24, 936 - $19,428
We have em when it comes to academics.
Stadium
Autzen Stadium – Houses 60,000
On October 27, 2007 in a game against USC, the crowd of 59,277 was able to reach a noise level of 127.2 decibels, the loudest ever recorded at a college football gameWikipedia
Folsom Stadium - The largest crowd for a football game was 54,972, when the Buffs played Colorado State on September 3, 2005
X Factors
We have the better mascot, and more scenic campus. On the other hand, they have Nike..thought we do too? They were also the first team to have a state of the arch-in door facility in the pac 10. On the other hand, CU has had a national championship. Its no wonder there’s a tug of war going on. Most side with Oregon for reasons mentioned below.
Conclusion: Location, and better facilities are probably what got recruits thinking Oregon. While the win-loss thing couldn’t have helped, Hawkins is showing a trend that somewhat mirrors Belloti in terms of wins and losses. One can only wonder what CU would be doing if we had the indoor facilities Oregon has. In order to beat Oregon, Hawkins must find a way deal with their superior resources. With Michael Clay, he probably went to Oregon is good part because of the debt chart at LB here in Boulder. With Diante Jackson, it was his parents. With Cliff Harris, who knows. Perhaps this provides insight
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