WarBuff
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I've given up hope for something like this for AZ after seeing Baylor make it to a bowl game last year.
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Tad has to go
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Depends on the standard for the program. Is the standard decent season in a below average league? Or, is the standard consistent appearances and top 16-32 runs in the NCAA Men’s Basketball tournament?
Lukeasaurus
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I think the standard is decent seasons in a below average league. As much as I'd like tourny runs having consistently good seasons is an improvement for our basketball team from where we were when I was growing up (and I think in the decades before)
B_Walk
Cursed
I'm happy we managed to salvage the season, but that's exactly what this is, a salvaged season...
I thought we should have gone to the tournament this year (assuming we don't win Vegas, it can happen)
You're walking the tightrope there, B_Walk.
Jelly's missed a lot of time because of a back injury that year, hard to blame Boyle for that, and they rebounded quite well in Jelly's senior year.
ahoelsken
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When we were 11-9, I was beyond frustrated and thought that Tad needed to feel some serious pressure to produce next year.
I still believe that he has to produce next year with the team he's got coming back.
But now we're getting back into "coach for life" territory for me if he salvages this season and follows it up with a big 2019-20 season.
I still believe that he has to produce next year with the team he's got coming back.
But now we're getting back into "coach for life" territory for me if he salvages this season and follows it up with a big 2019-20 season.
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Just so I understand you correctly: 1.5 good-ish seasons gets him coach for life?
are you high?
Tad's in his 9th season.
It is his 6th 20-win season. Total 20-win seasons in the history of CU basketball: 10
Tad has taken CU to the Dance 4 times in 8 seasons and will finish this year either 4/9 or 5/9.
Since 1970, CU had been to 2 NCAA tournaments prior to Tad. (Ricardo Patton had 2 in 12 seasons for the other ones.)
Maybe contact. I wouldn’t say Boyle has had a good season since 2016. He has a chance to salvage this one and have a good season if they win the P12 tourney.
But does sems in the P12 tourney and narrowly missing the NIT constitute a good season? My standard is the NCAA tournament at a minimum, especially since we play in the softest P5 conference.
see above. You are definitely high btw.
My concern is the coach for life speak. If he elevates the program and plateaus by not making the NCAA tournament consistently, I think we’ve done the program a disservice.
And if he slips to the point where he's making the tourney once every five years... that lesser performance level would still make him easily the best coach in the history of CU basketball.
Nope. We play in the worse P5 conference. Going years without making the NCAA tournament is unacceptable. Getting 20 wins is fun, except we played in a conference before with much better teams than we play now. It was harder to win 20 games when we were in the Big 8/12.
The CFL speak means that Colorado is incapable of finding a different coach who’s able to elevate the program. I guess that’s where we disagree.
If you are UCLA, it is. We are not UCLA.
That we haven’t made the NCAA tournament while UCLA has been way down is not an argument in your favor.
I'm assuming you're relatively young, because you're complaining about going years without making the tournament. So, I'll re-iterate what Buffnik already said.
Tournament appearances since 1960
1962
1963
1969
1997
2003
2012 Tad
2013 Tad
2014 Tad
2016 Tad
Notice the tournament appearances in the 1970's and the 1980's. Some of us remember going decades without making the tournament, so 4 appearances in Tad's 8-9 years seems like great results.
Maybe expectations needs to change, but you also need to realize where we've come from.
Relatively young compared to whom? I am not elderly, but most would say I am not young (40). I’ve been a Colorado fan in all sports for as long as I can remember.
Nik’s and now your post is about low expectations and the belief that Colorado’s program is presently unable to find a coach who can elevate the program further. I am not on board with this thinking.
We play in a different landscape today than before. Making the tournament matters. Nothing else matters, especially since making the tournament is now easier than ever before.
We play in the worst Power 5 conference.
We haven’t made the NCAA Tournament in three seasons.
When we were in the Big 8/12, we had to deal with much tougher opposition in basketball. Winning was much more difficult. In many of the years you list, only conference winners and select at-larges made the tournament.
Boyle upped the stakes and the standard by which he ought to be judged. If your belief is that the CU men’s basketball team is good enough as it stands, then we’ll have to disagree.
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