Speak for yourself! @MtnBuff LOVES when recruits we're after have Ivy League and Academy offers.
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You had me until Georgia. While we all know how well the SEC does on the grid iron, I wouldn't put them on par academically with the P12. ACC has some pretty damn good schools w/ the Yellowjackets, the Blue Devils and the 'Heels. I don't disagree with your premise, but more disagree with your use of the word 'delusional'. It wasn't too long ago where the P12 was both thought of with high academic schools and with football powerhouses. Got to get back there, as you imply.
Well WE may be competing with Ivy's for recruits, but no one else in the conference is!
Actually I do like Academy offers. I just want to see the guys who have offers from service academies and from other P5 schools.
I like smart football players but I want guys who can play who are smart, not smart guys who can't play.
Our current staff seems to prefer guys who are neither but are easy to sign.
SerenityBuff
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It's absolutely delusional to think that stellar academics and athletic achievement can't co-exist. Sadly, many Pac-12 institutions feel that way and believe that competitive football programs drag a university down rather than lift them up, if utilized properly. Nowhere did I say that the top tier Pac-12 schools weren't academic powerhouses. However, we do have an arrogance problem in our conference that's preventing us from competing athletically, as evidenced by your second sentence.
I will admit it's pretty tough to get into many P12 schools because of their academic requirements, if that's what you're referring to. So are you're suggesting as a solution that the P12 schools lower their academic requirements to let football players qualify who wouldn't otherwise (or that they should have a special exemption in order to play in the P12)? Based on my recent research (I have a graduating HS senior so we've been looking), the requirements to get into most SEC schools are not as rigorous as most P12 schools. Is that arrogance? It's certainly an advantage for the SEC from a recruiting standpoint.
SerenityBuff
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For reference, I've worked in higher education for 15 years now, including the last 5 at USC. So I have a little experience here. Acceptance rates have little to do with academic requirements. The primary reason most schools are hard to get into is way too many applications for the available number of spots. At UCLA, they received nearly 140,000 freshman applications for 2021. So when only 14% are accepted, people look at that and say "Ooh, they must be a great school." Sure, UCLA is a very good school, but is it Harvard? Not remotely. Conversely, UGA only received about 40,000 applications for roughly the same number of spots. So looking at acceptance rates tells you almost nothing about how academically rigorous a school is.
And schools already make exceptions for athletes. Always have, always will.
Are you implying that more people want to live in LA than Athens?
I recognize it is not the same as academic rankings, but due to the hope grant, UGA is pretty hard to get in.
dude leaned in on the Texas hard
now we just need to hear about his pet Tiger
now we just need to hear about his pet Tiger
He's having a bad season, but his recruiting is worse than his record this year.
So glad. He's a total douche.
Yup,
Quick translation of his coach speak.
"Our team sucks and our recruiting really sucks so I don't want to talk about it."
The Sarkisian Era at UT is going to be a monumental Train Wreck....
Here the Aggies hold forth on Pole Assassin.
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I wish Sark & Banks were in Boulder.The Sarkisian Era at UT is going to be a monumental Train Wreck....
Here the Aggies hold forth on Pole Assassin.
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And the monkey too!
It's not going to turn out well in Austin. Sark is going to FU big time.
Honestly, I think you're right. That's a pressure cooker with too much public scrutiny. CU would have been a better move for him. Maybe even financially, since he would have had long-term job security.
So do I and I wish they had a budget for a bunch of "recruit or campus" hosts like Banks girlfriend!
What I always find amusing is when people are talking about their “academically prowess” and spew mistake-riddled drivel like this.
CU does
Whaaa???
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Other than Berkeley and UCLA (and UDub in the Forbes) there’s not a Pac-12 public that can sniff Georgia.
Lol what? Washington is at 20 on the usnews list you provided. You are also doing only public schools with excludes Stanford and USC.Whaaa???
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Other than Berkeley and UCLA (and UDub in the Forbes) there’s not a Pac-12 public that can sniff Georgia.
K. Vanderbilt.
point being someone trashed UGA as an academic institution as evidence the Pac-12 takes academics more importantly than the SEC.
What does Vanderbilt have to do with what you said about Washington and Georgia? The Pac 12 does take academics more seriously than the SEC, there isn’t really a question about that.
what the presidents of these universities don’t get is that they will consistently lose ground to these schools in the SEC if they don’t invest in football.
Yeah guys, if you’re dogging the academic rep of U. Georgia, you’re barking up the wrong tree. Same with Florida. These are flagship schools in huge, populous states where their respective state governments are dumping a ton of public support into them.
The state of Colorado provides $5 bucks and ****ty regents.
The state of Colorado provides $5 bucks and ****ty regents.
UGA and UF are very good schools. I don’t know who was bashing UGA, but that’s just wrong. The SEC as a whole might not put a lot of emphasis on academics when it comes to admitting players, but many of the individual schools are very highly respected. That includes UGA, UF, A&M, and yes, even Alabama. These are not a bunch of community colleges.