Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by BuffLife, Apr 15, 2013.
Love to see Ken Pomeroy saying that the other 4 starters are so good that it might hold Mayor back from individually filling the stat sheet to the level it would take to get the recognition. Let's hope. We don't need him to average 20+ ppg. He just needs to lead us to 30 wins.
Yeah we have 4 starters who I think are capable of going for 15 a game next year. Spencer's assist numbers should jump up quite a bit next year.
It will be great if he leads the team to 30 wins next season, but he also deserves to "fill up the stat sheets" if that's the path to achieve national level recognition. That not only helps him, but it heightens the national perception of the program in terms of player development. That level of accomplishment would make potential high level recruits take notice. It's "all about the team" but it takes the right mix of talented, individual players to make it all come together.
Sure. Whatever it takes to win, though. My suspicion is we'll have games when Mayor scores 10 or 12 while we cruise to a win and he gets everyone else involved... and we'll also have nights when he drops 25+ on somebody and puts the team on his back.
It will be nearly impssible for his assist numbers to go down. CU was one of the bottom 5 teams in assist numbers in the NCAA, I don't see how it's possible (at least that's what I tell myself).
I'll bite, what starter don't you see being able to average 15 next year.
Assuming we are talking 15 points....I see Booker's stats going down next year. He is a chucker via percentage and we have a lot of height and length on this team going forward...
Booker coming off the bench is gonna be so awesome next year.
If Tad follows through on his promise to make the half-court offense better (and I don't see any reason he won't), he could come close to doubling his assist totals.
fify. nowhere to go but up. Our half court offense last year was completely dependent on superior individual accomplishment for most possessions. Here's a test: how many times per game would you think "great execution" after a bucket? Less than 5, I would bet. A small improvement in this will pay large dividends.
And ya, I know our lack of accurate 3pt shooting really made it easy for teams to pack the paint and dare us to shoot, making it hard to run an offense (at some point, you really just have to make some damn shots at this level), but goddamn we sure made it as hard on ourselves as we could most nights.
TL;DR - our offense last year did not maximize our talent, a small improvement should be inevitable (and produce awesome results)
We can only hope, I never really question Boyle but don't understand why he starts AND leads the team in shots taken.
Dinwiddie clearly has the court vision and ability to put up 6-10 assists every night, but there needs to be changes in the half-court offense. If we are stagnate again in the half court, nothing will change. SD does a good job of getting others involved early but needs to learn when to get himself going earlier, though I expect next year's team will be more potent offensively. It actually seems the team should be more worried about D. Adams (big gaurd), SHT (size down low), Chen (steals) and possibly 'Dre (best in the nation) all gone...
Because we had zero depth this year. You have to have people who can score. In this case, Ski was clearly the viable option. CU was very limited with zero depth. Next year will be a completely different story. Because of that, I'm not sure I buy Dinwiddie going AA. That's not a knock on him -- I just foresee a lot of production being spread around.
There were times when no one else would step up, but most of the time he was not in the flow of the offense. There's a difference between being the only viable option and taking a 26-footer with 30 seconds on the shot clock on back-to-back possessions.
I agree there was a lack of depth early in the year but Adams, XJ, XT, Eli (to a lesser extent) all proved they could step up and get open shots.
Booker had the green light to shoot too much this year, but next year that will be different so no point in getting too upset...
I just don't think it's in Roberson's game to be a big time scorer. Can he go for 15+ on occasion? Yes, but I'd say the last two years are a good indicator of what he is going to give us. FWIW, I'm not saying 4 guys are going to score 15 ppg. That would be absurd. I do think XJ and Scott are capable of the feat though, and we already know Aski and Spencer can do it.
Spencer's ability to drive and draw fouls sets him apart. He shot 133 more free throws (240 total) than the next closest player XJ (107).
That's a legit NBA skill.
This is what I would have expected a lot more times last year when the game was going sideways/down and it occasionally happened, and sometimes it didnt. I get he was a bit "gun shy" or whatever vs ILL b/c he kept getting called for charges that were just fine in p12 play.
The only game I got to see in person this year was the CSU game, and he went absolutely Ape ***** on them after running his mouth - I kind of expected a bit more of that this season.
Those who think the assist rate cant get lower - you're probably right. it was something ski did great at (dribble, drive, kick) in 2012 but didnt do much this year because he was busy jacking up treys.
I was about to post that he needs to finish better after drawing contact (like Burks), but then I think JG had a stat that countered that. JG do you happen to have the percentage of +1 shots for both players?
If he achieves AA next year, we'll have to promote him to Governor.
I don't have anything on +1's, but Dinwiddie got to the line at a much higher rate than Alec did (about 50% higher rate per field goal attampted).
It feels like SD needs to use the backboard more around the rim. All the greats use the board.
For Dinwiddie to become a ALl-American, he really needs to start off games agressive. No one ever said Alec lacked the desire to consistently score, on the other hand, Dinwiddie seems to wait till the 2nd half to really get going. Dinwiddie tries to involve his teammates way too much, especially Booker. Booker shouldn't be leading the team in shot attempts with his percentages.
Also, back to Burks, he definitely could finish "and 1s" way more than Dinwiddie. If Dinwiddie can improve that part of his game by getting stronger, he can be even better than Burks, maybe not statistically, but in overall value.
I love the Mayor, but he isn't Kobe. It would be hard for him to "involve his teammates way too much," imo.
+1. I suppose he could be more aggressive, but nonetheless I'm glad he's back.
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