Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Duff Man, Jul 22, 2013.
Place your bet...
That would put us at ~84th in the nation, up from 120th. It's a bit of a stretch, but I'll say over, but just barely.
Over, 26 a game.
Over. Way better offensive system in place, better athletes on the field this year (including PRich), hopefully better QB play (hard to be worse).
Over. Keeping Thomas and Hobbs would add ~2 pts/game imo
Over because I am willing it...but I bet we are within 1.5 on either side.
26.3 per game.
That's about a TD higher than last year, which seems reasonable with the staff change, so I'm picking a push. But we may see even more turnovers than last year.
under. Kool Aid went bad
Over. We may be one of the most improved offenses in the country this year. Besides, we need to score a lot with our D as bad as it is.
Over.....take it from the expert.
Is that purely offensive points or total team scores? Figure an average of 4-5 points per game from defense and special teams.
Over. Just because I wish it to be so!
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Last year we had exactly 1 TD from special teams and defense (that's 0.5 pts/gm). That will likely go up, but not this much.
I didn't realize that. Although to be honest, our defense and special teams were atrocious last year. So lower that to 2 Pts per game average. The question remains.
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We'd have to score at lot in OOC games to keep the average up when we get to conference play.
Under. Expect improvement but stronger defenses will still stifle us.
Since 2003, the offense has averaged over 25 ppg exactly once (2007). That's 1 year out of 9. I don't see us breaking the trend in Mac's 1st year with the group we have. FWIW, he increased SJSU's ppg from 13.75 to 16.08 in his first year. A similar improvement would put us right around 20 ppg.
I'm taking the under.
Under unless we picked up alabama or wisconsin's OL.
The game has also changed a lot since 2003 and the offenses for the most part have become more high powered with the rise of the spread. I also don't believe you can compare MM's first season to this one to make a point about improving the offensive scoring, other than they have 75 scholarship players due to APR sanctions. For starters, Lindgren was not the OC until MM's third year where he increased their scoring from 24.5ppg to 34.8ppg, or a 40% increase in scoring in one season. Now, at 17.8ppg with a 40% improvement would mean that the offense would be at 25ppg. I expect it to be easier to increase your scoring at the lower levels so I wholeheartedly believe that with the addition of PRich and Lindgren calling the plays a 40% increase is well within the realm of possibilities, or in fact a likely event.
And I wish I could find it but MM said there was more talent on offense here than there was at SJSU last year.
You don't need two of the best OL's in the nation to improve to the offensive scoring from 124th to ~84th, which is basically a touchdown a game improvement. Obviously the OL wasn't great but there were bigger issues on offense that killed the OL. Having no deep threat allowed teams to stack nine in the box since they could go man against Spruce and McCulloch and send guys to overwhelm the offensive line in terms of raw numbers. Having PRich back forces the defense to respect his speed and keep them honest, some playcalling creativity will help as well.
Even if what you're saying is true, how does that help our chances here and now? The fact that the spread offense has become more prevalent in college football has no relevance to CU. The only point in bringing this up is to show how rarely we've seen this happen in the last 9 years. Despite 4 coaches, numerous QBs, and numerous OCs, we've continued to struggle to find ways to score. The only constant I can find is the lack of playmaking passer.
BTW, it's a good thing Hawkins put up 65 on Bill Callahan in 2007; otherwise, he would've missed the 25 ppg mark that year too.
Was that directly due to Lindgren? Or was that due to David Fales? Or was that due to MM being in his third year at SJSU? After all, Lindgren may have improved playcalling, but he ran the offense he was given.
Anyway, for me, the Yr. 1 improvement is relevant because it shows MM is not a miracle worker. It shows that even he needs the right QB for HIS system. I don't think Connor Wood is that guy so I won't expect a 40% increase in scoring in year 1.
A likely event? It hasn't been a likely event for a decade. We've had receivers like PRich (Or even PRich himself). We've had well regarded offensive coordinators before. It's certainly going to come down to more than just one receiver who hasn't proven he can stay healthy or a brand new offensive coordinator with a brand new playbook.
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