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What would you guys think of Mike Nolan at CU?
- Thread starter Buffnik
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Who's talking about Harbaugh?
Anyone but Hawkins
The point is Harbaugh is that type of coach. He has no loyalties to Stanford and he's over there kicking ass and taking names. I want that, even if it's only for a few years. It's a lot easier to recruit when your team wins.
I guess rino. I just see it as something that would be important to the university. We aren't a stepping stone school. At least not imo.
I don't know much about Harbaugh. I do know a little about Nolan. Everything about him says he desperate for another NFL HC gig. But that's jmo.
The difference is that you have to recruit players into your system as well as coach around talent gaps and maturity on a college team.
In the NFL you fire guys that cant cut it and just draft new ones or hire FAs.
It's easier to acquire talent in the NFL.
The point is Stanford knew very well that if an NFL job opened up or the Michigan job if the came up, but they went out and hired the best guy for the job.
I prefer whipple from Miami... But I'm intrigued by Nolan
If Nolan only had two prior coaching gigs before coming to CU, I'd see things differently. Like I said before, every coach is different. I don't see Nolan staying with CU for longer than two seasons.
What I was saying, of course, assumes Nolan would be interested, which we don't know. But if he were interested, then yes he would have to demonstrate a willingness to stay for awhile, in which case what's not to like?
There aren't many Joe Paternos left anymore, if any. CU is not a top-flight job, despite what some here want to believe. That means CU will have to take some risks to be successful. There are no "perfect" hires out there, and talent will always attract interest from others. If no one else wants your coach, it means your coach sucks.
valdez,
I think that it's a good point that you want to make sure that a candidate is committed to the job. As much as it can, that would come out in an interview. And I've never heard of Nolan's integrity being questioned, so I'm sure that if he took the job he would be 100% devoted to it.
I could definitely get behind it if we hired him, though. He's a great coach and he would make national headlines for us (which we also need).
I think that it's a good point that you want to make sure that a candidate is committed to the job. As much as it can, that would come out in an interview. And I've never heard of Nolan's integrity being questioned, so I'm sure that if he took the job he would be 100% devoted to it.
I could definitely get behind it if we hired him, though. He's a great coach and he would make national headlines for us (which we also need).
Passing on a guy because you think he might have designs on a bigger & better job is a sure fire way to hire a loser. You hire the guy who will win games. Period. Who knows, maybe he comes in here, wins some games, gets a nice fat contract, and decides that coaching at CU is a pretty good gig. There's no way to predict what somebody is going to do 5-10 years down the road, so don't even try.
I like Nolan's defenses. I think he's a bright guy with a lot of football knowledge. If he can recruit and bring in decent assistants, I'm 100% in favor of hiring him.
I like Nolan's defenses. I think he's a bright guy with a lot of football knowledge. If he can recruit and bring in decent assistants, I'm 100% in favor of hiring him.
Good points.
I agree and that is what I want to avoid. Go hire the best guy that wants the job.
It's just an opinion Sacky. :lol:
DrunkPanda
Well-Known Member
do not want.
i think it's pretty evident that college coaches have a hard time transitioning to the nfl and nfl coaches have an equally hard time transitioning to college. mike nolan seems like the kind of guy who would have a hard time transitioning to college. he doesn't look like he has the type of personality that would be a good recruiter and one of the big reasons he was fired from the broncos was that he stubbornly refused to make any adjustments to his defense once offenses figured out how to exploit it. which is why the broncos defense was so good in the early part of the season and so bad in the end
i think it's pretty evident that college coaches have a hard time transitioning to the nfl and nfl coaches have an equally hard time transitioning to college. mike nolan seems like the kind of guy who would have a hard time transitioning to college. he doesn't look like he has the type of personality that would be a good recruiter and one of the big reasons he was fired from the broncos was that he stubbornly refused to make any adjustments to his defense once offenses figured out how to exploit it. which is why the broncos defense was so good in the early part of the season and so bad in the end
I'm not trying to say Nolan is the next Neuheisel. I just see him as a guy who wants to honor his fathers legacy, and imitate that. As a NFL HC. I am not trying to question his integrity.
Panda, not going to argue. Just wanted to clarify that he was not fired from the Broncos. He resigned. My understanding is that it had a lot to do with him having issues with the offensive play calling going away from what had worked, becoming pass happy, and causing his defense to wear down by being on the field too much. It's no accident he went to Miami with their balanced attack. And the Broncos have slipped from the #7 defense last year to #19 this year (Dolphins are #7, up from #13).
I don't think his coaching ability is in question here. It's clear looking at his long resume that they guy can coach.
^^^^This.
Guys that are winners have winners on their staff usually too. So when they do leave you do have a decent pool of candidates that could step in. We were all very intrigued when rumors of Shanny taking the job came out. Sure, he'd leave in 2 years or 3 but we'd have had a great coach in the interim.
Yet somehow we hired the worst of the winners when our last winner retired.
CU has a horrid history of hiring head coaches.
The man wears a suit on the sideline, alot of things these days are about how you present yourself. He looks no nonsense to me, Id say hell yes but im sure Ill get a rebuttal. Rather have Gruden, which is impossible, but this guy would be good. Be a good representative of CU.
I didn't think so. I was just stressing that he's shown to be a guy who is pretty serious about his job.
Wouldn't it be great to see the Denver media jumping on the Buff bandwagon as McDaniels continues to fail and his defense gets worse and worse... while Nolan (who had been so successful under Reeves and in his 1 year under McD) came to Boulder and quickly built a championship caliber team? That's my dream, at least. There are a number of coaching candidates I like for CU, though.
P.S. And Nolan definitely doesn't want his stint with the Niners to define his NFL HC career. When you pick a QB #1 and miss, you know it's going to end badly.
True, but I think the number of NFL guys that succeed in the college ranks is slim. Which is why I'd prefer to go the major college program route if possible. But, if Nolan or any other NFL coach looked like the best candidate, go for it.
Sounds like the Bzdelik situation all over again...
Nolan is a great DC and not a terrible head coach. But I'd like somebody more current in the college game and less likely to have one eye on the NFL job postings the entire time he's in Boulder....
I agree with you on the NFL to College thing. Guys like Groh, Sherman, Callahan, Weiss were all miserable failures at the college level. For every Pete Carroll, there's five Mike Shermans.
Just to be a prick. Chuck Fairbanks. :smile2:
The thing with Fairbanks is that he had all the credentials. He had been a winning coach in college. He'd recruited top level players, he had NFL experience, he had it all. There was literally nothing on his resume that would indicate that he'd be a complete and total failure at CU. He ended up doing all the same stuff Hawk is doing - blaming the fans, the facilities, the administration - everybody but himself.
Good thing I wasn't alive to witness that crap. :smile2:
Mick Ronson
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ftfy :thumbsup: