Who's talking about Harbaugh?Harbaugh will show Stanford no loyalty and they know it, seems to be working out OK for them.
He has been an NFL guy for a long time as a head coach and mostly as a defensive coordinator. And since he has coached in Denver (twice) as well as San Fran, Baltimore, Washington DC, New York (Jets & Giants) and Miami... he is known from coast to coast. From a college standpoint, it's been since 1986 but he coached in 3 of our important recruiting states at LSU, Rice and Stanford.
He's currently 51 years old and working as a defensive coordinator for the Dolphins. He's known as one of the gurus of the 34 defense (which CU runs a version of and has recruited to). His coaching tree ties into, among others, Brian Billick, Al Groh, and particularly Dan Reeves. On a personal level, he's a devout catholic, has 4 kids, and is known as a very strong family man.
Thoughts on Nolan as our next head coach?
Who's talking about Harbaugh?
I guess rino. I just see it as something that would be important to the university. We aren't a stepping stone school. At least not imo.I'm sure Hawkins will commit for another 10 years.
That part is highly overrated. Win games and that kind of stuff becomes a lot less important.
I don't know much about Harbaugh. I do know a little about Nolan. Everything about him says he desperate for another NFL HC gig. But that's jmo.The point is Harbaugh is that type of coach. He has no loyalties to Stanford and he's over there kicking ass and taking names. I want that, even if it's only for a few years. It's a lot easier to recruit when your team wins.
He's an NFL Defensive Coordinator. That trumps college coordinator experience, IMO.
Who's talking about Harbaugh?
The point is Stanford knew very well that if an NFL job opened up or the Michigan job if the came up, but they went out and hired the best guy for the job.
I just see him showing CU no loyalty. I certainly don't want to go through every offseason worrying about where our HC will end up at. I think it's a valid argument.
Things like that can hurt recruiting. You don't think other recruiters will be telling our recruits that he's not going to be there in two years. Why commit to a coach who doesn't show you the same kind of commitment?
What I was saying, of course, assumes Nolan would be interested, which we don't know. But if he were interested, then yes he would have to demonstrate a willingness to stay for awhile, in which case what's not to like?
There aren't many Joe Paternos left anymore, if any. CU is not a top-flight job, despite what some here want to believe. That means CU will have to take some risks to be successful. There are no "perfect" hires out there, and talent will always attract interest from others. If no one else wants your coach, it means your coach sucks.
Passing on a guy because you think he might have designs on a bigger & better job is a sure fire way to hire a loser. .
There's no way to predict what somebody is going to do 5-10 years down the road, so don't even try.
I'm not trying to say Nolan is the next Neuheisel. I just see him as a guy who wants to honor his fathers legacy, and imitate that. As a NFL HC. I am not trying to question his integrity.I think that it's a good point that you want to make sure that a candidate is committed to the job. As much as it can, that would come out in an interview. And I've never heard of Nolan's integrity being questioned, so I'm sure that if he took the job he would be 100% devoted to it.
do not want.
i think it's pretty evident that college coaches have a hard time transitioning to the nfl and nfl coaches have an equally hard time transitioning to college. mike nolan seems like the kind of guy who would have a hard time transitioning to college. he doesn't look like he has the type of personality that would be a good recruiter and one of the big reasons he was fired from the broncos was that he stubbornly refused to make any adjustments to his defense once offenses figured out how to exploit it. which is why the broncos defense was so good in the early part of the season and so bad in the end
Passing on a guy because you think he might have designs on a bigger & better job is a sure fire way to hire a loser. You hire the guy who will win games. Period. Who knows, maybe he comes in here, wins some games, gets a nice fat contract, and decides that coaching at CU is a pretty good gig. There's no way to predict what somebody is going to do 5-10 years down the road, so don't even try.
I like Nolan's defenses. I think he's a bright guy with a lot of football knowledge. If he can recruit and bring in decent assistants, I'm 100% in favor of hiring him.
I'm not trying to say Nolan is the next Neuheisel. I just see him as a guy who wants to honor his fathers legacy, and imitate that. As a NFL HC. I am not trying to question his integrity.
I see your point, but you can't rule out every NFL coach. They're all different.
I just see him showing CU no loyalty. I certainly don't want to go through every offseason worrying about where our HC will end up at. I think it's a valid argument.
True, but I think the number of NFL guys that succeed in the college ranks is slim. Which is why I'd prefer to go the major college program route if possible. But, if Nolan or any other NFL coach looked like the best candidate, go for it.
Just to be a prick. Chuck Fairbanks. :smile2:
I agree with you on the NFL to College thing. Guys like Groh, Sherman, Callahan, Weiss were all miserable failures at the college level. For every Pete Carroll, there's five Mike Shermans and even more abysmally, a Greg Robinson.