Gasm- a little advice. If someone from Primerica comes and tells you that you can make hundreds of thousands of dollars selling mortgages and mortgage insurance, just run. I think you would be one of their targets. The stadium commission or whatever they call themselves, sound like great salesmen.
I want CSU to have a stadium on campus. But you have got to look at it with a more critical eye and be sure that the math is sound. They are throwing out numbers that have a huge sliding scale. The numbers on the low end look great. The numbers on the high end look amazing. Used car salesmen and timeshare people use these same tactics.
Nobody pays these people the money they do to get told that it won't work.
^^This^^
Simple truth is that if you are willing to pay for it, and it doesn't cost that much to do it, you can find an "expert consultant" who will say pretty much whatever you want them to say.
These folks can't handle a bumpable message board and you expect them to understand salesman math vs real world math?
Just got back from the stadium meeting. The feasibility firms there have done reports on hundreds of new stadiums and 50+ football stadiums.
CSU can expect a MINIMUM of $13million in extra revenue each year due to the stadium and a max of $22million. This comes from naming rights of the stadium, loge boxes, box seats, club seats that aren't at Hughes. An attendance of 37,800. Sounds like sustainable revenue.
They expect the fundraising to be at $212-490million. So yeah, $212million minimum.
Owned. Told you so
Have I mentioned that I do feasibility studies?
Anybody could do that feasability study.Can you do a feasibility study that gets Snow together with Minke Kelly? How much would it cost?
It may have as much chance of happening as CSU has of becoming a legitimate power in FBS football and getting 37,000 fans a game to show up.
Anybody could do that feasability study.
I'm guessing it will involve rufalin. And that's ok with me.But how about coming up with an argument that makes it sound like it could logically happen, give Snow some hope that he can believe in.
is there a chance that the track could bend?No rep for you. The correct answer was: no, good sir, I'm on the level.
Fantastic news. This should allow you to end the CU/CSU series and schedule a higher profile BCS opponent. After all, you don't need it, right? You're swimming in money. This is great news for CSU. Congratulations.
It would be great if CSU can get this thing built and get the RMS out of Mile High for good.
It would be great if CSU can get this thing built and get the RMS out of Mile High for good.
I've seen this sentiment a few places, and I understand why you're excited - but the sentiment infuriates me. We've been hooked into this Denver game for over a decade now, and that entire time CU fans were beaten over the head with the importance of the game in Denver. Now, CSU gets a new stadium, and the series is worthless? We've given up a lot to accommodate CSU (stupid moves by Bohn) and this series. Pisses me off that nixing it is now hunky dory for CSU fans.
Nothing personal against you Csquared
It might piss you off, but my advice is to embrace it. We can't kill the series - they can. Let them.
I've seen this sentiment a few places, and I understand why you're excited - but the sentiment infuriates me. We've been hooked into this Denver game for over a decade now, and that entire time CU fans were beaten over the head with the importance of the game in Denver. Now, CSU gets a new stadium, and the series is worthless? We've given up a lot to accommodate CSU (stupid moves by Bohn) and this series. Pisses me off that nixing it is now hunky dory for CSU fans.
Nothing personal against you Csquared
Two and a half. And its 530million. You guys suck at reading factsCSU makes it rain. It took them over 7 years to raise $500MM. It took CU 5 years and 3 months to raise over $1 billion for our Creating Futures campaign
I don't think the series is worthless by any stretch and am not suggesting that it be nixed. I was one of the biggest proponents of keeping the game in Denver due mostly to the fact that I attended CSU in the mid-90's and remember when the RMS at Mile High was outstanding. However, I have come over to the side of many CU fans over the last few years. The environment at Mile High has faded and years of absurd kickoff times have ruined the game. 2009 at Folsom to me was the clincher. Both teams were coming off decent seasons and the environment was at an entirely differrent level that evening. If CSU can get a new stadium - I think it could actually help save this series and something I am absolutely in favor of.
3k bigger? Hughes is 32k. The new stadium is 43k. Again, you suck at reading facts.Regardless of whether they reach the projected attendance numbers, spending that kind of coin on a new stadium that only has a capacity of 3k bigger seems small fry to me.
It would be great if CSU can get this thing built and get the RMS out of Mile High for good.
3k bigger? Hughes is 32k. The new stadium is 43k. Again, you suck at reading facts.
lol@ everyone on here
Hughes was downgraded to 32,500. You have gone full retardThe stadium has a seating capacity of 34,400 with club seats and 12 luxury suites, completed in 2005. The playing field, at an elevation of 5,190 feet (1,582 m) above sea level,[SUP][4][/SUP] was natural grass for the stadium's first 38 seasons; FieldTurf was installed in the summer of 2006.[SUP][5]
Honestly I think you have gone full retard.[/SUP]
What points? The funniest part is you guys attacking my numbers from the feasibility report. I didn't make them, ICON did. And to add to that they added their projected numbers from the feasibility reports and the ACTUAL from Oregon, Oregon State and another Uni (don't remember) and they were either 95% or 100% accurate.Who cares? You find one little mistake and jump all over it. Other points are still valid.
What points? The funniest part is you guys attacking my numbers from the feasibility report. I didn't make them, ICON did. And to add to that they added their projected numbers from the feasibility reports and the ACTUAL from Oregon, Oregon State and another Uni (don't remember) and they were either 95% or 100% accurate.