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Colorado reportedly reaches out to Utah State's Gary Andersen

I like this option. Just really want to get back to watching a team with a real coach. It's been 7 ****ing long years.
 
CarolinaBuff said:
fify, I think that's what you meant. Anyway, that's the thing that jumps out to me the most is his lack of experience at a big-time program. And no, Utah doesn't count. That, plus he's had just 1 good year at Utah State.
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The whole Boise State thing comes into play here...weak conference play and just one or two big games. I get that argument.

But back when Anderson was at Utah, I think the MWC was something like 38 and 2 (numbers are fictional to make a point) against Pac 10 competition.

And I know that you're an SEC first guy, but what Utah did to 'Bama in that BCS game was the real deal. I believe Anderson was the DC for that game.

Maybe he's Hawk II, but I don't get that sense. Anderson is in my top three.
 
The next time Gary signs a 4* athlete is the first time.

Creebuzz said:
Apparently he may not be such a bad recruiter.
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I'm not saying he can't. I am saying he does not have a track record. Gary is too close to Hawk. Not in the substance side, but in the he's never had to go head to head with USC, Oregon, UCLA and CAl in a living room side.

Gary would be an improvement to either of the recently terminated head coaches. I just want someone who has a track record of getting it done on recruiting.
 
If anyone can watch Utah State football on WatchESPN, would Utah State be described as a team that plays hard? It's no secret that the Keg is selling out because CU fans know that the hardwood Buffs will play hard every game. Wasn't that why Bill McCartney was given a fourth year despite a 1-10 record in his third season?
 
Orr said:
The whole Boise State thing comes into play here...weak conference play and just one or two big games. I get that argument.

But back when Anderson was at Utah, I think the MWC was something like 38 and 2 (numbers are fictional to make a point) against Pac 10 competition.

And I know that you're an SEC first guy, but what Utah did to 'Bama in that BCS game was the real deal. I believe Anderson was the DC for that game.

Maybe he's Hawk II, but I don't get that sense. Anderson is in my top three.
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He was actually hired about a month before that Sugar Bowl and I'm not sure if he was actually still the DC at Utah for that game, but yes it was still his defense regardless of whether or not he actually coached in that game and Utah's defense shut down Bama in that game.
 
CarolinaBuff said:
He was actually hired about a month before that Sugar Bowl and I'm not sure if he was actually still the DC at Utah for that game, but yes it was still his defense regardless of whether or not he actually coached in that game and Utah's defense shut down Bama in that game.
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That game was amazing. They didn't just shut down Alabama, they pushed them around. I remember being gobsmacked watching that.
 
Would certainly be on board with this. I think the guy can flat out coach and loved what I saw the few times I saw him this season in wins against Utah, #20 La Tech and a heartbreaking 2 point loss at Wisconsin. Also blew the doors off Mike MccIntyre's 10-2 San Jose State team on the road, 49-27

2009: 4-8 (3-5)
2010: 4-8 (2-6)
2011: 7-6 (5-2) (Idaho Bowl)
2012: 10-2 (6-0) WAC Champions (Idaho Bowl)
 
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After watching the video from another thread I want impressed with his knowledge but I don't know about his personality. Seems like a kind old white guy that may work well with Utah kids, but what about recruiting top athletes and dealing with a pissed off locker room that came for the fire and passion of Embree? It would be for the best, but I wasn't inspired. The staff he'd bring worries me, too.

None of this is meaningful, just the impressions I have...maybe he is the next chip Kelly
 
Only concerns are that most of his experience is in the state of Utah and there is no BCS experience anywhere. Thoughts?
 
pcbuff said:
I'm not saying he can't. I am saying he does not have a track record. Gary is too close to Hawk. Not in the substance side, but in the he's never had to go head to head with USC, Oregon, UCLA and CAl in a living room side.

Gary would be an improvement to either of the recently terminated head coaches. I just want someone who has a track record of getting it done on recruiting.
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We will rarely, if ever, be competing with those schools for the same players. We need to be able to compete with the AZ schools, OSU, WSU, UW, Utah, etc. first. And maybe find a diamond in the rough here or there that ends up showing he could have played at one of the upper tier schools. But we need to aim a little lower on recruiting in the short-term, and Anderson has played in that arena. Then as we start winning a bit more, pull an upset here or there, then we can sit in some 4-star recruits living room and say "Hey, you could go to Oregon or USC and sit for two years. Or you can come to CU and play right away."
 
I would like the hire because I want a defense minded Coach. I think teams that are coming from a defensive emphasis are tougher overall.
 
for the near term cant we all just be satisfied with a fundamentally sound team.. that improves week by week and year by year????????
 
seattlebuff said:
We will rarely, if ever, be competing with those schools for the same players. We need to be able to compete with the AZ schools, OSU, WSU, UW, Utah, etc. first. And maybe find a diamond in the rough here or there that ends up showing he could have played at one of the upper tier schools. But we need to aim a little lower on recruiting in the short-term, and Anderson has played in that arena. Then as we start winning a bit more, pull an upset here or there, then we can sit in some 4-star recruits living room and say "Hey, you could go to Oregon or USC and sit for two years. Or you can come to CU and play right away."
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As much as it pains me to say it, this is somewhat true. This is why I like Anderson. He knows how to build from the ashes and maintain an exceptional defensive team. As his success grows so does his recruiting. Colorado is not hard to recruit to if you even show a little momentum. See 2008 recruiting class under Hawkins.
 
Darian3Hagan said:
Scoring D
2008 #12
2009 #19
2010 #23
2011 #18
2012 #50

Total D
2008 #18
2009 #20
2010 #21
2011 #32
2012 #35
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Also important to know what Whittingham is a defensive guy by trade. Was the Utah defensive rankings good coaching by Andersen or was it Kirby Smart to Nick Saban, UF/OSU OC to Urban Meyer? THose rankings are pretty consistent. I'm not sure how good Andersen is. The last two years the WAC has lost a lot of marqee teams. LA TEch, SJSU, Utah St all hit the 9-10 win plateau right around the same time. They all have breakout coaches? Or did they just feast on the NMSU/TSEP's of the world? Tough to say.
 
If we can get a guy like Tedford who does have BCS experience and rebuilding experience and working with a tough administration experience wouldn't we rather go that route? I know it is a big if and Anderson does seem like a great coach and leader, but lack of BCS head coaching just scares the hell out of me. Such a tough call and no room for error with this hire, this is why I say go with a proven BCS head coach.
 
Walter White said:
If i had to choose between a great recruiter and a rock solid coach, i'll take the rock solid coach. I think that as you start winning the recruits will come, espeically in-state recruits.
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This, agree 100% right now. We need a coach first, recruiter second. We've seen the results of a decent recruiter/bad coach.
 
pcbuff said:
I'm not saying he can't. I am saying he does not have a track record. Gary is too close to Hawk. Not in the substance side, but in the he's never had to go head to head with USC, Oregon, UCLA and CAl in a living room side.

Gary would be an improvement to either of the recently terminated head coaches. I just want someone who has a track record of getting it done on recruiting.
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His experience is actually completely different than that of Hawk. Hawk was handed the reigns to a program that had already been established as highly successful by Dirk Koetter. Meanwhile, Andersen built up Utah State from scratch. Huge difference.
 
Highlander27 said:
Also important to know what Whittingham is a defensive guy by trade. Was the Utah defensive rankings good coaching by Andersen or was it Kirby Smart to Nick Saban, UF/OSU OC to Urban Meyer? THose rankings are pretty consistent. I'm not sure how good Andersen is. The last two years the WAC has lost a lot of marqee teams. LA TEch, SJSU, Utah St all hit the 9-10 win plateau right around the same time. They all have breakout coaches? Or did they just feast on the NMSU/TSEP's of the world? Tough to say.
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True. But Andersen then did it on his own at Utah State.
 
NYbuffDIEHARD said:
If we can get a guy like Tedford who does have BCS experience and rebuilding experience and working with a tough administration experience wouldn't we rather go that route? I know it is a big if and Anderson does seem like a great coach and leader, but lack of BCS head coaching just scares the hell out of me. Such a tough call and no room for error with this hire, this is why I say go with a proven BCS head coach.
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A BCS coach is certainly not a problem, and even preferred...if they are winning. Tedford has been on a steady decline for years. He could be a smash hit at Colorado, but I'm really leery of hiring a guy who was just fired because his W-L record stinks recently and was trending down.
 
NYbuffDIEHARD said:
If we can get a guy like Tedford who does have BCS experience and rebuilding experience and working with a tough administration experience wouldn't we rather go that route? I know it is a big if and Anderson does seem like a great coach and leader, but lack of BCS head coaching just scares the hell out of me. Such a tough call and no room for error with this hire, this is why I say go with a proven BCS head coach.
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No. Please no on Tedford. He has ran out of gas and isn't going to recover this fast. He needs a break.

Not too concerned with no BCS head coaching experience either.
 
seattlebuff said:
We will rarely, if ever, be competing with those schools for the same players. We need to be able to compete with the AZ schools, OSU, WSU, UW, Utah, etc. first. And maybe find a diamond in the rough here or there that ends up showing he could have played at one of the upper tier schools. But we need to aim a little lower on recruiting in the short-term, and Anderson has played in that arena. Then as we start winning a bit more, pull an upset here or there, then we can sit in some 4-star recruits living room and say "Hey, you could go to Oregon or USC and sit for two years. Or you can come to CU and play right away."
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Baloney, it was only a couple years ago that we were competing and winning some recruiting battles with those programs. Winning changes A LOT!
 
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