I hope so. Denver + Salt Lake > Phoenix and I would assume they view Utah > ASU and Colorado > Arizona
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Ruh roh Raggy
I’m this case, we gotta hope BYU stabs Utah in the heart and locks them out of B12 with either Arizona or ASU and take Denver + Phoenix markets instead with CU and an Arizona school to get one in each market
Yeah, I was going to say, it could also be 1 Arizona and 1 Mountain school that get invited. Denver is bigger than SLC, but Utah significantly better brand than CU at the moment. A Utah and ASU add to go with Oregon and UW would certainly be the Big 12's most appealing 4 in terms of brand and current on field prestige. I can't imagine the Big 12 wants to leave out the Denver market, though.
Kind of have to hope ASU and UA are connected at the hip
If that happens, I’ll definitely stop watching entirely and be fully lost as a fan. Full stop
You'll stop watching right when CU starts making bowl games haha
I guess the way I see it is if the Pac 10 stays together for now at the same money the Big 18 would bring, UW and Oregon would simply jump to one of the big conferences in a few years and then the 4 corner schools would leave for the Big 12 at that time. The landscape has completely changed in the past week, and I don't think it's going to stop changing for at least another 5-10 years, so all I'm saying is maybe it's not going to be in our best interests to get locked into an ACC style GOR with the Big 18 at $30m per year.
Big thing CU has going for it, even in terms of the Big Ten, is Denver has big Midwestern fan bases. Despite the mythology of the Cali invasion of CO, the influx of newcomers over the past 20 years has been mostly from Big Ten and Big 12 country.
That's definitely not true in UT, OR, or WA, not sure about AZ.
That's definitely not true in UT, OR, or WA, not sure about AZ.
They have a better football team. They are not a better brand.
Issue is if the ACC GOR gets imploded, only 5 ACC schools go to the P2 conferences, OR and WA go, and we are ****ed when the Big 12 loads up on ACC refugees and we've got a Pac-8 that is definitely G5.
IMO, we get the chance to go Big 12, we do it, sign the GOR, and if someone bigger actually came knocking on the door (it ain't happening), we deal with it then.
This reads like: "If 300K people just donate $10 per month..."
Some of the "in the know" posters on 247 are saying that BYU is lobbying hard against adding Utah and that the Big 12 covets Denver.
Imagine being Utah, winning a P5 conference last year, being a dark horse CFP contender in 2022, and being relegated BACK to the Mountain West in 2 years because of your traditionally G5 level mormon counterparts accepted an invite to the Big 12 a year earlier
Imagine being Utah, winning a P5 conference last year, being a dark horse CFP contender in 2022, and being relegated BACK to the Mountain West in 2 years because of your traditionally G5 level mormon counterparts accepted an invite to the Big 12 a year earlier
The expanded Big 12 and ACC will not be power conferences so just toss that thought out the window. Those two are going to be pretty competitive conferences and there is definitely a market for something like that. This is still going to force schools to make more of their money on their own especially at the ticket office. That is something that CU will need to continue working on such as the west side of Folsom Field and The Keg getting renovated.
CU is in far better shape than before the basketball practice facilities & Champions Center were built. Had we not built those two, we would be headed to the MWC or a PAC that will be MWC 2.0.
If the P12N is sold to ESPN and all PAC games that are not on the air or cable can be on ESPN+, I’m ok with CU staying in the PAC. If CU moves to the Big 12, that’s awesome. What I will not be okay with is if CU stays in the PAC and the P12N remains the same. It is not good business if people can’t see your product and CU will continue to suffer as a result.
That is why my #1 concern is being able to see CU and with the Altitude TV saga going into its 4th year and people not watching a Stanley Cup winning team should be pulling for something where you are able to watch them in the first place.
That would be great for the memes
Kelli Brooks is going to pay for the ASPCA-style commercials where the clips are nothing but CU football getting curb stomped and Sarah McLauchlan saying, "For just $10/mo, you can help save one of these poor CU players"
RG pissed a lot of people off with the mediocre KD hire after proclaiming to be all about championships. Kelli Brooks made a big donation a while back, but has cooled her major financial support as well.
Does anybody think that we might be left one of the teams left out?
I can't imagine that BYU has veto power.
BlackNGold
Club Member
I think MHVer3 is one of those people that just likes to repackage stuff he has seen on the internet (fan boards, tweets, etc) and post it as fact. He does not seem to have any real in anywhere.
The big problem the Pac12-2 has is the PAC12 network and a bad media deal, otherwise they would be more attractive. The lack of games that anyone could see is a real problem and one the Trojans complained about for awhile saying it was having a major impact on recruiting and also left the PAC out of the playoffs. The only thing the Big 12 has going for it is no PAC12 network. It is one thing to play a game at night and it is another thing to play it on a network no one gets.
In any business you deal with issues that hold you back. I hope in this media negotiations the PACN is dealt with efficiently. If they want to cling to it in the hopes that it will be valuable someday, it will sink them.
The big problem the Pac12-2 has is the PAC12 network and a bad media deal, otherwise they would be more attractive. The lack of games that anyone could see is a real problem and one the Trojans complained about for awhile saying it was having a major impact on recruiting and also left the PAC out of the playoffs. The only thing the Big 12 has going for it is no PAC12 network. It is one thing to play a game at night and it is another thing to play it on a network no one gets.
In any business you deal with issues that hold you back. I hope in this media negotiations the PACN is dealt with efficiently. If they want to cling to it in the hopes that it will be valuable someday, it will sink them.
BUFFS14
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They dont really become a member for another year (I think), so I agree.
I dont think they would carry that much power
I think BYU is coveted by the Big 12, though, and if BYU tries to threaten going back to Independent, maybe the Big 12 decides it would rather have them over Utah.
BerkeleyBuff
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I'll say it again: MHver knows nothing and is absolutely full of ****. He reads what other people say, retweets every random thing (especially if it is pro-Big XII/ pro- WVU) and claims sources, then backtracks and cites a fluid situation when his bull**** never comes to fruition. He's been doing this for a decade. His tweets are 100% worthless.
Thisuniversityisf’ed!
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That’s probably true, they go hand in hand. That’s disappointing that we can’t do anything right. Maybe if we had momentum boosters would be interested in donating.
The P12 media number was valued at $250 million before U$C and UCLA left. It didn’t go up.
Uh no. It was $500m before USC and UCLA left and estimated at $300m without them, per Canzano's article