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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

patebuff said:
I wouldn't be surprised if in 2024 the following happens

4 corner Schools to Big 12
Oregon, Washington, Cal, and Stanford to the BIG
WSU and OSU to the MWC or wherever, doesn't really matter
ACC probably splits up and has a few going SEC (Miami/FSU/UNC/Clemson and maybe a few to the Big 12 (to partner with UCF/WVU/Cincy)
Rest of ACC will go to AAC/Conference USA/Sun Belt

You then really have 3 conferences with Big 12 outside looking in. The rest of the conferences are relegated to a different level of football and possibly even the Big 12
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The idea that the big12 is going to be some magical second tier between the big 2 and the other conferences is silly. There’s going to be two conferences and everyone else. In ten years the difference between the big12 and the mwc is going to be negligible. The long play is B1G/SEC or “everyone else”
 
I know this is a football centric topic, but we need the Buffs to make a run in basketball. Sweet 16 or better.
 
NW Buff said:
The idea that the big12 is going to be some magical second tier between the big 2 and the other conferences is silly. There’s going to be two conferences and everyone else. In ten years the difference between the big12 and the mwc is going to be negligible. The long play is B1G/SEC or “everyone else”
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If the playoff eventually moves to an NFL model of 7-8 teams from the B1G and 7-8 teams from the SEC playing a single elimination playoff and meeting in the championship game, then yes I agree.

As long as the Big 12/ACC (I’m not convinced they are able to dissolve anytime soon) are granted access to the playoff, they’ll be a tier higher.
 
NW Buff said:
The idea that the big12 is going to be some magical second tier between the big 2 and the other conferences is silly. There’s going to be two conferences and everyone else. In ten years the difference between the big12 and the mwc is going to be negligible. The long play is B1G/SEC or “everyone else”
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This take is silly. Financially and competitively, the Big XII is going to be notably behind the SEC and B1G while still being drastically ahead of the MWC, Sun Belt, etc.
 
iWillDuYu said:
I think we’re going to be just fine in the B12 the next 7-8 years while final seats get worked out for a full ncaa breakaway. We’ll make good coin in the B12 in the meantime, and get our fball fixed
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iWillDuYu said:
I think we’re going to be just fine in the B12 the next 7-8 years while final seats get worked out for a full ncaa breakaway. We’ll make good coin in the B12 in the meantime, and get our fball fixed
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It will be about the same money as P12 or worse. The SEC will also get all the best HS talent before the B12. Theynwill get all the best recruiters because of money. We, and the rest, will have far less and zero chances because of this unleveled playing field they created.

You can thank the TV gods and money for ruining college football
 
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BerkeleyBuff said:
This take is silly. Financially and competitively, the Big XII is going to be notably behind the SEC and B1G while still being drastically ahead of the MWC, Sun Belt, etc.
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I said 10 years. If the other second year conferences go away, I don’t see how one maintains that space, especially one the big 2 poach a few more teams.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
If the playoff eventually moves to an NFL model of 7-8 teams from the B1G and 7-8 teams from the SEC playing a single elimination playoff and meeting in the championship game, then yes I agree.

As long as the Big 12/ACC (I’m not convinced they are able to dissolve anytime soon) are granted access to the playoff, they’ll be a tier higher.
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I’m suggesting that the former happens. I don’t see why the B1G/SEC share playoff money and prestige with anyone else eventually.
 
MiamiBuffs said:
It will be about the same money as P12 or worse. The SEC will also get all the best HS talent before the B12. Theynwill get all the best recruiters because of money. We, and the rest, will have far less and zero chances because of this unleveled playing field they created.

You can thank the TV gods and money for ruining college football
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The B12 will be comfortably more than us here in the PAC. You might not want to admit that, i get it, but thats the reality we’re facing. We aren’t cracking $30M a year here in the PAC. B12 will be north of $38M
 
iWillDuYu said:
I think we’re going to be just fine in the B12 the next 7-8 years while final seats get worked out for a full ncaa breakaway. We’ll make good coin in the B12 in the meantime, and get our fball fixed
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Nick Saban isn't coming to Boulder and how I'd love to be wrong in that case.
 
PAC MAN said:
Kansas wishes their basketball pedigree would get them into the B1G.
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But if I were CU I’d make the argument that CU football has a much higher probability to become successful. I know recent history might argue otherwise. Kansas has never been good. Plus, who the hell wants to travel to Lawrence, KS?
 
DBT said:
But if I were CU I’d make the argument that CU football has a much higher probability to become successful. I know recent history might argue otherwise. Kansas has never been good. Plus, who the hell wants to travel to Lawrence, KS?
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Kansas had a good football team when that one midget QB was there. I can't remember his name, Todd Reesing maybe? They just aren't good very often.
 
DBT said:
But if I were CU I’d make the argument that CU football has a much higher probability to become successful. I know recent history might argue otherwise. Kansas has never been good. Plus, who the hell wants to travel to Lawrence, KS?
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CU has been to only one more bowl game than KU since 2005.

Been traveling to Kansas occasionally...I-70 surface is getting better and seeing less road construction activities but that's pretty much it.
 
PAC MAN said:
CU has been to only one more bowl game than KU since 2005.

Been traveling to Kansas occasionally...I-70 surface is getting better and seeing less road construction activities but that's pretty much it.
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I understand that. My point is CU has more potential. But then I had potential too. :)
 
NW Buff said:
I said 10 years. If the other second year conferences go away, I don’t see how one maintains that space, especially one the big 2 poach a few more teams.
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There's no one remaining in the Big XII who could drive enough value to be additive to the SEC or B1G. Yet those Big XII teams are going to continue to pull in much more viewership on average than the Sun Belt, MWC, etc. Including ten years from now.
 
BerkeleyBuff said:
There's no one remaining in the Big XII who could drive enough value to be additive to the SEC or B1G. Yet those Big XII teams are going to continue to pull in much more viewership on average than the Sun Belt, MWC, etc. Including ten years from now.
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Many assumptions on my side but I think B1G & SEC eventually go to 20 teams and maybe 24. So the next 8 or 16 teams are going to get picked up by those two. At that point, I doubt there’s a single middle layer conference anymore.
 
The SEC/B1G could end up picking off the straggler programs from the B12/P12/ACC just to effectively shut down those conferences. Take three conferences out of the equation and the money for the remaining two goes up substantially.
 
Not Sure said:
The SEC/B1G could end up picking off the straggler programs from the B12/P12/ACC just to effectively shut down those conferences. Take three conferences out of the equation and the money for the remaining two goes up substantially.
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The 'leftovers' will end up in one third conference. My guess will be the Big12 that lives.
 
InTheBuff said:
The 'leftovers' will end up in one third conference. My guess will be the Big12 that lives.
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Maybe. I’d guess it’ll be more like several smaller conferences like what we used to have. Basically a bunch of G5 schools in 8-10 team conferences. Maybe CU is part of that, maybe it isn’t. We are squarely on the bubble.
 
sec or bust. i think we have a chance in football against vandy, kentucky, and maybe sometimes mizzery and miss st and ol miss. and we have better teeth, grammar, posture, health and diet, and are used to getting our arses handed to us in football. we add value, i tell you!

dear sec conference foes-- come to boulder for the football, stay for the amenities! you poor bastards can't even buy weed in most of your footprint. this can all work like magic, baby. don't quit on us now-- you former rebel states always wanted to take more territory in the west. now is your big chance!
 
The Pac-12 has fielded “more than a dozen” inquiries from schools wanting to join the conference, per a source. More than 10 other universities have back-channeled through lawyers and consultants with the conference, exploring the fit and asking questions.
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Canzano did say that one of the schools that has reportedly done some back-channeling is Boise State,
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Watching what's happened with Oregon, the Big Ten should really think long and hard about inviting them. Uncle Phil has done a lot for them, but what have they really accomplished in that time period? He's not going to be alive that much longer, and it's hard to believe that they won't revert to their original levels of money sport accomplishment, which is equal to about Purdue, historically.

They don't bring a market, and the Nike fanboi following will die off after the a seasons of losing football.
 
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