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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

Buffnik said:
What I'm really curious about is the chatter about Gonzaga & UConn joining. I'd assume the Huskies would be non-football but they'd get some sort of fb scheduling plan on the ND model.

Gonzaga is a real problem for Wazzu.

Also, I wonder if the increased exposure of Big 12 teams by playing UConn & Gonzaga (plus conference tourney) has carryover from the basketball popularity of those programs and would give a bump to Big 12 football ratings in the future.

And if this happens & works out, we're going to be talking about raiding Big East, A-10, WCC, etc. for non-football expansion.
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Uconn has to be all sports. Their BE buyout is 30 mil. They aren't willing to join otherwise.

They are. ESPN covets them. They make ESPN a lot of money.

A big mistake for the B12 is to let AAC get UCONN in a couple of years or the ACC to get them as well as Gonzaga. That said, the issue is always schools that don't want to cut some of their bread to allow expansion for new teams. Especially since the fright is only cover in limitation.
 
BlackNGold said:
Networks are not devouring the ACC. It does not look like some posters are looking at Market Conditions for media rights. It has all changed in the last year. There is a finite amount of money and it is all committed. Fox, ESPN, are not shelling out money for non-premium tier programs. They just committed available money to USC, UCLA, UW, OU, TX, Oregon, CU, UA, ASU and UU. The only way the MWC or AAC can pick up the remaining PAC schools is if a media company steps up and says we will give pro rata shares for the additional members.

With all due respect to Buffnick, I have never felt in todays market that adding G5 members adding any value unless they had a great brand AND were in a population Center and the Big 12 took most of those already. Tulane might slightly move the needle - SDSU and SMU do not.

In the future, football programs will be desire if they add significant Fan engagement. The Big 10 marquee games bring north of 10 million viewers, same for the SEC. The PAC 12 best rated game last year was
(7) USC at (16) UCLA – Week 12, Saturday, Nov. 19, 8pm ET, FOX Viewers: 4.53 million. And those 2 teams are going to the Big10.
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After Fox killed the PAC, the ACC is next followed by the MWC.

As for the A5, this article will be a good refresher. It has been that way for nearly a decade. The AAC does have a strong case for replacing the PAC in that case especially after the addition of the likes of UAB who is in the middle of a strong college football TV market just not a general TV market. That is something for the entire NCAA body to vote on not the media companies.

www.cbssports.com

NCAA adopts new Division I model giving Power 5 autonomy

Q&A on what Thursday's NCAA vote means.
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Yes the reality is that it is the P2 and everyone else but the legislation doesn't reflect that.

Again like I have said that good football isn't exclusive to the FBS, good football isn't exclusive to the P2 either.
 
#1 pick said:
Uconn has to be all sports. Their BE buyout is 30 mil. They aren't willing to join otherwise.

They are. ESPN covets them. They make ESPN a lot of money.

A big mistake for the B12 is to let AAC get UCONN in a couple of years or the ACC to get them as well as Gonzaga. That said, the issue is always schools that don't want to cut some of their bread to allow expansion for new teams. Especially since the fright is only cover in limitation
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Several things with this-
1) I can't find anything that says the Big East actually has a TV deal with ESPN right now. The only times UCONN was on ESPN last year were the Phil Knight invite games (no idea how TV for preseason CBB works-my assumption is the people behind the tournaments get deals done with the networks, but I could be wrong) and when they played at Florida (SEC home game so that's obv ESPN). Outside of that, they were on FOX with like one game against St. Johns on CBS last year.
2) UCONN left the AAC to make a basketball centric move to the Big East. They're not going back to the AAC. It wasn't working for them-and it makes no sense now......especially with basketball powerhouses like Rice and Charlotte in that league.
3) Gonzaga to the ACC? They're going to want to move everything. You think an AD that doesn't have football can afford to be sending their men's soccer program to Syracuse and Boston every other year? I get we threw geography out the window, but come on dude. They have no incentive to move in my view-they get to play whoever they want in MBB in the OOC, and they're guaranteed to get into the NCAA tournament with close to 30 wins yearly because the WCC isn't good outside of them and St Marys.
 
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I’m pretty sure Fox and ESPN have said 16 is the max fir pro rats Big 12. No chance on UConn unless they are brought in for football, and no chance the networks go above 16. Big 12 is done for now
 
Beavis said:
I’m pretty sure Fox and ESPN have said 16 is the max fir pro rats Big 12. No chance on UConn unless they are brought in for football, and no chance the networks go above 16. Big 12 is done for now
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I'm sure that was what the B1G was told before getting UO & UW.

And the ACC schools could be soon available.
 
hokiehead said:
I'd welcome Penn State, though (the ACC should've done whatever necessary to get them -- I think that would've been a move most likely to save that conference)
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Huh? I am thoroughly confused...

You don't mean Penn State do you? They are Blue and White and had a coach do some really bad things in the shower with some boys....
 
Off topic (and sorry if already posted) but for those who may be interested, it's apparently CU day on Pac 12 Network all day. Just completed the first half of 62-36, and then it's the 2019 win in 60 minutes, followed by 4 great CU MBB wins.
 
ahoelsken said:
Several things with this-
1) I can't find anything that says the Big East actually has a TV deal with ESPN right now. The only times UCONN was on ESPN last year were the Phil Knight invite games (no idea how TV for preseason CBB works-my assumption is the people behind the tournaments get deals done with the networks, but I could be wrong) and when they played at Florida (SEC home game so that's obv ESPN). Outside of that, they were on FOX with like one game against St. Johns on CBS last year.
2) UCONN left the AAC to make a basketball centric move to the Big East. They're not going back to the AAC. It wasn't working for them-and it makes no sense now......especially with basketball powerhouses like Rice and Charlotte in that league.
3) Gonzaga to the ACC? They're going to want to move everything. You think an AD that doesn't have football can afford to be sending their men's soccer program to Syracuse and Boston every other year? I get we threw geography out the window, but come on dude. They have no incentive to move in my view-they get to play whoever they want in MBB in the OOC, and they're guaranteed to get into the NCAA tournament with close to 30 wins yearly because the WCC isn't good outside of them and St Marys.
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UConn doesn't have a current deal with ESPN. They left to go back to the BE. Their alums hated the quality of comp in the AAC and the fact that they didn't care as much about Basketball as they did and the BE did. Also, they didn't like the G5 status at all. Hated it.

They left a G5 conference. Why is that being missed in all of this? No one cares about G5s. The networks use their content as filler.

Gonzaga is currently rumored for the B12 but if the ACC grabs them and the rest of the P4. That will impact the B12. On top of that, SDSU will be willing to join the ACC. It's easy for ACC to get WC content and everyone would be willing to join the ACC from that list.
 
Beavis said:
I’ll never say never on this stuff, but I don’t see any way the ACC gets out of the GOR.
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FSU is about to write a 700 million dollar check so there is a will, there is a way but most schools aren't touching this. Their about to eat off of FSU stupidity
 
#1 pick said:
FSU is about to write a 700 million dollar check so there is a will, there is a way but most schools aren't touching this. There about to eat off of FSU stupidity
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Wouldn’t that then make it harder for the other schools to get out (assuming the amount of count of schools required to break the GOR doesn’t then decrease)?
 
Beavis said:
I’ll never say never on this stuff, but I don’t see any way the ACC gets out of the GOR.
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I’m with you in that.

Let’s say there are 10 individuals with $10M ready to give. That’s $100M.

15 individuals with $5M each. $75M ready to give. $175M total.

13 individuals with $7M. $91M and $266M.

20 individuals give $2M each. Already over $300M.

That would still be a huge undertaking but those payments can be made over the course of 5-10 years.

FSU has 391,000 living alumni.

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$300M is a lot of money but with that many alumni, it’s not too big of a hurdle.
 
LesGrossman said:
It’s going to be hilarious when FSU invites corporate raiders into their little academic club and learn what happens to assets and portfolio companies when there’s a whiff of negative or suboptimal IRR
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Absolutely insane. They’re going to go into three quarters of a billion in debt to some PE company only to have to surrender half the revenue they make as full members of a P2 conference.
 
manhattanbuff said:
They do not have this money.
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record rights GIF
 
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