2024 Transfer Portal News - Please Respect My Decision

[Alfred91]

The WSU and OSU exodus is beginning I think

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1730347260410482838

I hate what's happening there, but we might as well try to pick off the carcass too if there are guys that can help us.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1730341292750643658

Kinda feel like we don't have the $$$$ for Dante.

 

[dio]

I don't have a well thought out opinion on this, but it doesn't feel like CFB will survive long with this environment. As a fan your team can be gutted overnight, just a pure mercenary league.

 

[hokiehead]

I think in the future one governing body league, this transfer nonsense will be outlawed or at least regulated to an extent where players won't be doing it as much. You can't build, develop and manage a roster the way things are trending. It's not sustainable. I don't know exactly what or how is going to be done, but I can't imagine coaches and ADs (and ultimately the Presidents) want this wild west set up.

slight tangent from the sustainable topic, but IMO, the most likely scenario that results in "future one governing body league", is that the SEC and B1G break off and "incorporate" under governance of the CFP, LLC.

other than the conferences themselves, I think there's no current entity directing as much money in the sport and I they already demonstrated they can negotiate big time media deals.

 

[Alfred91]

I think in the future one governing body league, this transfer nonsense will be outlawed or at least regulated to an extent where players won't be doing it as much. You can't build, develop and manage a roster the way things are trending. It's not sustainable. I don't know exactly what or how is going to be done, but I can't imagine coaches and ADs (and ultimately the Presidents) want this wild west set up.

I agree. Ultimately the schools themselves are going to want to do something about it, and honestly I'm not so sure Congress won't get involved and grant someone an anti-trust exemption, be it the NCAA or someone else.

Like I said earlier, the money men always make sure they're doing better than the athletes. It's never a fair fight. So everyone who's saying that this is good for the kids, don't believe them.

 

[Alfred91]

slight tangent from the sustainable topic, but IMO, the most likely scenario that results in "future one governing body league", is that the SEC and B1G break off and "incorporate" under governance of the CFP, LLC.

other than the conferences themselves, I think there's no current entity directing as much money in the sport and I they already demonstrated they can negotiate big time media deals.

I can also foresee that being the case. The thing is, if they break all ties with everything, what happens to the Northwesterns, Vanderbilts, Kentuckys, Indianas, etc? I don't see them carrying dead weight because of history when they're breaking everything else up.

 

[hokiehead]

The problem is that there's zero compensation and that players can just say see ya if they perform well and attract "better" offers or roles at "bigger" schools. That essentially makes any kind of player development pointless if you're never gonna see the spoils of the work you did with the players.

I think you're making a great point about lack of motivation for player development. the only possible countering I see to that is that "player development" will still sell as a recruiting tool, and a coach with reputation of neglecting that altogether will decrease their recruiting pool even further.

 

[Jens1893]

I don't have a well thought out opinion on this, but it doesn't feel like CFB will survive long with this environment. As a fan your team can be gutted overnight, just a pure mercenary league.

CFB will. There's too much interest and money in it for it not to and there's also a need for a development league of sorts (which is what CFB is), but the shape and form may not be recognisable.

 

[hokiehead]

I can also foresee that being the case. The thing is, if they break all ties with everything, what happens to the Northwesterns, Vanderbilts, Kentuckys, Indianas, etc? I don't see them carrying dead weight because of history when they're breaking everything else up.

a few years ago, I posted my thoughts that an upcoming round of realignment would be contraction. I hypnotized that the P5 conferences would add new requirements for membership, e.g. minimum stadium size, minimum football budget, etc... and give some timeline for current members lagging on these criteria to catchup.

I still think that's a possibility, but things have changed.

 

[Jens1893]

I agree. Ultimately the schools themselves are going to want to do something about it, and honestly I'm not so sure Congress won't get involved and grant someone an anti-trust exemption, be it the NCAA or someone else.

Like I said earlier, the money men always make sure they're doing better than the athletes. It's never a fair fight. So everyone who's saying that this is good for the kids, don't believe them.

I am not sure that memo ever crossed the US border.

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

I don't have a well thought out opinion on this, but it doesn't feel like CFB will survive long with this environment. As a fan your team can be gutted overnight, just a pure mercenary league.

When the no sit transfer rules were being discussed a few years ago I said it was going to be terrible for the sport. Great for the players, but terrible for the majority of CFB. I also feel the same way about an unregulated NIL environment. Kids are getting ****ed over by schools, along with bad actors looking to take advantage. Every kid who thinks they can play are going to enter the portal at least twice in their careers to cash in. The blue chip players are going to cash in out of high school, once throughout their college career and then maybe again as a grad transfer, before they decide to go to the NFL.

Most coaches hate it. They hate not knowing who is going to be on their roster come January, then again in March, then again in May and then again in August. It's going to motivate the decision makers to figure something out.

 

[Jens1893]

When the no sit transfer rules were being discussed a few years ago I said it was going to be terrible for the sport. Great for the players, but terrible for the majority of CFB. I also feel the same way about an unregulated NIL environment. Kids are getting ****ed over by schools, along with bad actors looking to take advantage. Every kid who thinks they can play are going to enter the portal at least twice in their careers to cash in. The blue chip players are going to cash in out of high school, once throughout their college career and then maybe again as a grad transfer, before they decide to go to the NFL.

Most coaches hate it. They hate not knowing who is going to be on their roster come January, then again in March, then again in May and then again in August. It's going to motivate the decision makers to figure something out.

But at the same time the coaches reserve that right for themselves.

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

slight tangent from the sustainable topic, but IMO, the most likely scenario that results in "future one governing body league", is that the SEC and B1G break off and "incorporate" under governance of the CFP, LLC.

other than the conferences themselves, I think there's no current entity directing as much money in the sport and I they already demonstrated they can negotiate big time media deals.

Klatt has said this multiple times. He believes all of (Power 5 I think) college football should be separated from the NCAA and be brought under one governing body, and the one that makes sense would be the CFP. Pool TV and media rights and make significantly more as a whole, just like the NFL does, than they do as as separate conferences. Get all teams under equal scheduling rules, institute transfer limits and rules, figure out a compensation model for players, etc.

 

[Jens1893]

I stand by my opinion that the NCAA is on its last legs and any solution to the problems the sport has right now will not involve the NCAA as a governing body. The NCAA brings nothing to the table itself and solely lives because it's being empowered by the schools. The NCAA probably also has way too many programs associated with it that the elite will consider deadwood.

 

[Darth Snow]

a few years ago, I posted my thoughts that an upcoming round of realignment would be contraction. I hypnotized that the P5 conferences would add new requirements for membership, e.g. minimum stadium size, minimum football budget, etc... and give some timeline for current members lagging on these criteria to catchup.

I still think that's a possibility, but things have changed.

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

But at the same time the coaches reserve that right for themselves.

Yeah, I don't know how to stop that. The NFL doesn't have that problem since no HC job is really viewed as inherently better than another. If this new league did total profit sharing and instituted a salary cap and made it completely NFL-lite, I would imagine the HC jumping from job to job would slow down quite a bit.

 

[Alfred91]

But at the same time the coaches reserve that right for themselves.

No one will ever go for it, but I think the very first thing that should be done is a salary cap on coaching staffs. A school can decided to give a coach a $10 million salary, but then they have nothing for their assistants. It would make programs have to be more judicious in their hirings and firings, and it might cut down on the number of head coaches who jump for a bigger payday.

 

[Jens1893]

Klatt has said this multiple times. He believes all of (Power 5 I think) college football should be separated from the NCAA and be brought under one governing body, and the one that makes sense would be the CFP. Pool TV and media rights and make significantly more as a whole, just like the NFL does, than they do as as separate conferences. Get all teams under equal scheduling rules, institute transfer limits and rules, figure out a compensation model for players, etc.

I can see some schools disagreeing there and I can almost guarantee you that some places have massive issues with the equal revenue sharing as the top programs are essentially subsidising the lesser ones. I think equal revenue sharing will definitely be put on the table and I also think that some schools figure they could generate more if they were allowed to sell their home games themselves.

 

[Jens1893]

Yeah, I don't know how to stop that. The NFL doesn't have that problem since no HC job is really viewed as inherently better than another. If this new league did total profit sharing and instituted a salary cap and made it completely NFL-lite, I would imagine the HC jumping from job to job would slow down quite a bit.

I am not sure the NFL is the model they would follow. In fact, I'd argue it's gonna be the exact opposite.

 

[Bread]

You aren't considering Omarion Cooper at least a solid role player? Guy started most of the year and while he wasn't elite, he wasn't bad either.

He probably is. Based on some of the comments here when he transferred, he seemed to fail to meet expectations, but you're right, he was solid. So replace him with Smalls. I'm sure I missed someone else in there too, but overall, the guys that missed weren't rated all that highly. They were filler.

I would actually say for the first 1/3 to 1/2 of the season, Cooper was a top third of the PAC corner. Teams weren't really able to do much against him. And then he made one mistake that started the cycle of "make a mistake, done for the game". As a corner where you need to have confidence to succeed, I think that totally stripped him of any confidence and led to him becoming less and less impactful. He was afraid to make a mistake and it just made things worse.

 

[Jens1893]

No one will ever go for it, but I think the very first thing that should be done is a salary cap on coaching staffs. A school can decided to give a coach a $10 million salary, but then they have nothing for their assistants. It would make programs have to be more judicious in their hirings and firings, and it might cut down on the number of head coaches who jump for a bigger payday.

i think that would involve a CFB coaching union agreeing to cap their earning potential -> not gonna happen

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

I am not sure the NFL is the model they would follow. In fact, I'd argue it's gonna be the exact opposite.

College football is already the exact opposite of the NFL, and everything that is happening from a media standpoint is going exactly the way of the NFL.

 

[Jens1893]

College football is already the exact opposite of the NFL, and everything that is happening from a media standpoint is going exactly the way of the NFL.

See my other post. It's a beautiful case study for a socialist v a capitalist approach to governing a sport. Profit sharing and salary caps run opposite of that.

 

[The Alabaster Yak]

See my other post. It's a beautiful case study for a socialist v a capitalist approach to governing a sport. Profit sharing and salary caps run opposite of that.

But that applies to like maybe the top 10 or so programs. If the majority of the programs agree to it then the other 10 would likely go along because there is no league without the collective group of programs.

That and the media companies want CFB in the same setup as the NFL. It’s the most profitable and easiest to manage.

 

[Buffnik]

But that applies to like maybe the top 10 or so programs. If the majority of the programs agree to it then the other 10 would likely go along because there is no league without the collective group of programs.

That and the media companies want CFB in the same setup as the NFL. It’s the most profitable and easiest to manage.

Yep. I think that the eventual setup will be closer to MLB than NFL with cap and revenue sharing. Resources at USC will not be made virtually identical to Purdue, but Purdue will have a path to compete and win over USC if they better manage their organization.

 

[Jens1893]

But that applies to like maybe the top 10 or so programs. If the majority of the programs agree to it then the other 10 would likely go along because there is no league without the collective group of programs.

That and the media companies want CFB in the same setup as the NFL. It’s the most profitable and easiest to manage.

Most profitable for whom? The collective or the elite?

Trust me, I am not pulling this from my ass, I see these exact developments in football, which has very comparable structures to CFB. I guarantee you that the elite programs will start pushing for an end to equal revenue sharing as a first step and they'll try to go from there and bully the others into oblivion.

 

[Uncle Ken]

I don't think DJ Uiagalelei is good enough to lead the Oregon/FSU team. He needs Jonathan Smith's offense system to be a average QB.

He will be OSU's revenge on Oregon. They're playing checkers to UofO's checkers.

 

[bldrbbott]

For the most part, the guys who had an 88+ rating were at least solid role players. The exceptions were Traore, Omarion Cooper, McCaskill and Kennedy, who were coming off of knee injuries. The injury risks didn't pan out, but for the most part, they did ok with the highly rated guys.

Brown and Gaines were overrated from their JSU time, and most of the rest of the guys who didn't show much were the guys who never saw the field for their former team. Most weren't all that highly regarded coming in though.

I thought Kennedy showed well at Utah in extensive playing time. And really look forward to McCaskill next year, he seems fired up on social media.

 

[mattrob]

I wouldn't say Gaines was overrated. He has a skill set we couldn't use because of our OL.

Brown was brought here for culture reasons and leadership but it's impossible to be a 6' 210 edge rusher running a 4.7 at the P5 level regardless of how good of a football player you are. You just don't physically belong.

Both true, but 247 gave them 87 and 89 grades. Both seem very high to me. Brown should have never been an 89 and Gaines is too limited to justify his 87 rating. That's what I was referring to.

 

[hokiehead]

Klatt has said this multiple times. He believes all of (Power 5 I think) college football should be separated from the NCAA and be brought under one governing body, and the one that makes sense would be the CFP. Pool TV and media rights and make significantly more as a whole, just like the NFL does, than they do as as separate conferences. Get all teams under equal scheduling rules, institute transfer limits and rules, figure out a compensation model for players, etc.

great minds think alike... and so do mine and Klatt's, I guess.

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

He will be OSU's revenge on Oregon. They're playing checkers to UofO's checkers.

Can anyone send him Nique Clifford's phone number?