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Anyone catch the Barnett interview on CJ and Kreckman today?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by rynobuff, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. rynobuff

    rynobuff Club Member Club Member

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    At the end he mentioned how he has heard on message boards that him and his coaches turned down an extension in 2005 and said that was completely untrue. He said that before the ISU game when ranked #13 they told him they would all get extensions and there would be a press conference after the Clowns game, but after they lost he never heard from the administration again... they quit answering his and his attorneys phone call and then he was released. Said he had a great recruiting class coming in including Maclin (which has been mentioned before). Just thought it was interesting... interview was over and right before they went to commercial he just brought this up and went on about it.
     
  2. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    The program was in decline. I have no issues with firing GB.
     
  3. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

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    I have a feeling the problems that happened during his time at the helm would have only gotten worse as time went along and the end result would have been the same anyway. 70 - 3 says a bundle for me.
     
  4. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    I caught the first part after he finished rambling on and on. They asked what he would do if he were king to fix the program. He said there wasn't any one thing but he noted things that he's seen at every top 20 school

    1) A commitment to excellence in football that starts at the President, moves down to the Chancelor. An AD that has been immersed in football in the past.
    2) More majors for athletes. He said CU offers very few majors that athletes like to pursue, and so at CU most athletes are in Sociology, Ethnic Studies, or some in Business.

    I stopped listening after that
     
  5. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    I was at that ISU game. Talk about your total meltdown.
     
  6. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

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    After almost having a chance in 2001 to play in the NC game, look at the recruiting class for 2002. Not too good. Oddly, Gary B wasn't a great recruiter. That 2001 team was his last one with deep talent and it was Slick Rick's talent. Gary failed to parlay that year and then the "incident" happened, followed by "foot in mouth on ESPN" and it was over.

    Liked him then and now but he wasn't the guy we needed at the time. He just didn't recruit well enough.
     
  7. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    I know I'm probably wrong, but I wonder if he would've gotten any slack if he'd fired Watson. It seemed to me that he was unwilling to make any changes to his coaching staff unless it got really, really bad. Remember Okruch?
     
  8. GoBuffs08

    GoBuffs08 Well-Known Member

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    GB needed to be fired because of the "incident". Funny thing was I wanted him fired before the incident because I didn't think the team was moving in the correct direction. Then the "incident" happened and they still kept him.

    Had the university just done that everything would have ended. Instead they kept GB, he had a decent season with the team playing us against the world, but the damage was already done.

    Holic you are correct with GB's recruiting. We should have had a loaded class after the 2001 season, and instead it was really a poor class.
     
  9. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    The 2002 class was #10 in the nation, hardly bad.
     
  10. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    The reason we got that high is because the size of the class. The one five star kid was a bust, and with the exception of Calhoun (who left the program) every four star kid was a bust. It was very bad for a program coming off a great season like we had in 2001.
     
  11. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Barnett's last class was the first one where I followed recruiting. THe way I remember it was that it was gonna be absolutely terrible
     
  12. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    eric Bieniemy and Embree played a big part in landing that class.
     
  13. DBT

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    You ****tards missed the most important point. The CU admin is not committed to athletics and has not been since Gordon Gee. Until we prioritize athletics, we will suck at them. I've been saying this over and over. We, our admin, do not give a flying **** about sports. Until they do, we will suck. Embree has been thrown under the bus. He has no support from the top.
     
  14. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    The activia not working out for ya?
     
  15. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Care to be specific or are you just going to continue to throw this generalization out there every so often?
     
  16. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    He's right though, the administration isn't committed to athletic excellence.
     
  17. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    It will always be an uphill battle, but DBT thinks the administration support is still at the same level it was during the Barnett era. Simply not true.
     
  18. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Maybe so but it's still not good.
     
  19. SINKRATZ

    SINKRATZ Club Member Club Member

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    That clears it up, thanks.
     
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    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Pound sand ****waffle.
     
  21. DBT

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    Listen, first, GB says the admin has not supported athletics strongly since the Gee days with Mac and before GB. I'm saying that GB is saying that support has NOT been there since those days. Are you saying that has changed? I honestly do not know what the support level is now. GB claims it is not there. You disagree. I have no clue. I hope you are right.
     
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  22. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    It is getting better, especially when it comes to admissions. Still have work to do.
     
  23. JimmyBuff

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    In GB's defense, I'm sure he wouldn't say that if it wasn't true especially since I'm sure he's talked with Embree about it.
     
  24. Ozbuff

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    I remember thinking some of those guys would be studs. I was especially excited to get Chris Hollis (a LB from Aurora Hinkley) and Blake Mackey (6'3" WR with 4.4 speed). On paper that was a solid class. Just didn't work out that way. The 2008 class was the same.
     
  25. Sexton Hardcastle

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    Right. I was thinking the same thing. Mackey looked like a star, and it didn't hurt getting his bro to transfer from UCLA(I think). At least JJ turned out to be a star.
     
  26. ScottyBuff

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    Part of what most people see as "admin support" is really negotiated through conference alignments.

    When we were a member of the Big 8 Conference, we were allowed partial-qualifiers through a program Mac had setup that actually worked out really well to graduate student athletes. Nebraska did the same thing.

    When we joined the Big 12, that program was cut as part of the conference agreement to not allow those programs.

    So, while it is easy to say that CU football under Coach Mac and Gordon Gee had "full support" from the admin, it isn't an apples-to-apples comparison about what the current admin CAN support, even if they wanted to.

    The bottom line is that our other Big 12 rivals, and now, our Pac-12 rivals all play under basically the same rules in that regard. There are other things that separate us, like the transfer of JuCo credits, lack of a P.E. degree path, etc. But as a fanbase we tend to mock schools like Okie State, K(Juco)-State, etc for their allowance of poor academic options just for athletes. So which do you want, you can't have both?
     
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  27. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

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    How about we do what Cal does? Marshawn lynch couldn't even spell his first name.
     
  28. BuffUp

    BuffUp W.T.T.F. Club Member

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    he did coach players up though - for sub par talent we sure won some BIG games
     
  29. Wyo Buff

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    This is the reason. Great, concise post, brother.
     
  30. Mick Ronson

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    i'd be willing to bet the admin support for athletics is higher now than when Eddie Crowder finished #3 in the nation.
     

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