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Assistant Coaches

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by ahoelsken, Nov 1, 2014.

  1. ahoelsken

    ahoelsken Well-Known Member

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    "Lack of talent" is not an excuse right now, and it doesn't explain taking UCLA to double OT or outplaying ASU for three quarters. I also don't think MM is the issue, either. There has been a number of chatter about certain assistant coaches (dating back to when MM decided to spend his 2.5m assistant pool to bring all but two of his SJSU assistants with him), and I think we have gotten to the point that we cannot go into 2015 status quo as far as coaching staff.

    1. Toby Neinas-Duh. We've been complaining about him since he got here, and the PR TD his unit gave up today is a prime example why. Getting rid of Neinas would also allow us to hire a full time RB coach, and I think we need that.
    2. Gary Bernardi-There have been way too many penalties on his unit at critical times. Look no further than the false start right before the half last week. If there were a deficiency in OL talent, this unit would have given up more than 12 sacks going into today.
    3. Brian Lindgren-I think the offense has improved, but there have been a number of situations where his play calling has made no sense. Not only that, but I think Sefo has regressed (some of his INTs have been that bad), and I do think Lindgren bears some responsibility for that. There will be upgrades available (Doug Nussmeier for one), and I think we can get a better play caller in the door.

    As I said above, MM is not the problem, and I do not think he has done anything to not get the time he'll need to fix this. After four losses that have involved various types of self destruction, I think its time we have more of a debate about the assistants, as there will need to be changes made this offseason. Thoughts?
     
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  2. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    2 and 3 are funny
     
  3. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

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    Why would getting rid of Neinas allow CU to hire a full time RB coach?

    How does firing ONE special team's coach mean CU can hire ONE RB coach? Does that mean there will be NO special team's coach?

    Also, the RB game seems fine to me. Adkins and Jones and even Lindsay are running well, when they get to run (and when they aren't fumbling).
     
  4. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Lindgren is doing so much to cover so many holes right now. We should be on our knees for that guy.

    Bernardi hasn't impressed me.

    Regarding Neinas, I don't hate the guy or even have a huge problem with the job he has done. I simply believe that you can't use a staff position to get mediocre special teams and mediocre recruiting.
     
  5. patebuff

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    Lindgren? Good god
     
  6. ahoelsken

    ahoelsken Well-Known Member

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    You only get so many assistant coaching spots (I think the number is 9). You can use them however you want.
     
  7. ahoelsken

    ahoelsken Well-Known Member

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    Why is 2 funny? Too many penalties from the O-Line, and you could make a case that the false start at half last week cost us the game.
     
  8. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Neinas, Baer, Jeffcoat... those are the three possibilities I see. Not saying we replace them all, but make at least one change. Any talk of offensive changes is crazy to me, outside of maybe Bernardi because we have a capable replacement on staff. But Lindgren? Really?
     
  9. Quattro

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    Because they're a solid unit that has protected Sefo and have improved in the run game every week, and I find it difficult to justify firing him given that
     
  10. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    If anything, Lindgren has earned himself a tidy raise IMO.
     
  11. MtnBuff

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    I haven't been impressed by Bernardi either but doubt he goes anywhere soon.

    Nienas is the obvious first choice. The outsider of the staff to start with and hasn't been good with his position group or in recruiting.

    Baer is also probably safe because of the contract and his relationship with M2.

    Jeffcoat has done okay with his position but he was supposed to be our recruiter who got us talent out of Texas. So far he has been a major failure in terms of recruiting.
     
  12. patebuff

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    Saying any of our difficulties because of Lindgren is crazy to me. You are either not watching games or clueless.

    I agree that we need to see at least one staff change up. New blood is needed.
     
  13. ahoelsken

    ahoelsken Well-Known Member

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    Did you miss the series against CSU where Lindgren called three interior run plays in a row inside their five yard line?
     
  14. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Playcalling is never perfect, but come on. You really expected the offense to be better than it has been?
     
  15. MtnBuff

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    Lindgren has had some questionable moments but as you say, that happens with virtually every team.

    Before anyone complains to much about him look at this offense two years ago, last year, and this year. We have made huge gains.

    If the defense was making gains like the offense has made we would be winning some football games right now.
     
  16. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    We're all Monday morning quarterbacks. There was a 3rd down play today when we were inside the UW 40 and needed about 4 yards. Ran the ball and picked up 6. Crowd went wild. If that hadn't worked, Lindgren would have gotten abused for that play call.

    Every fan hates running plays when they don't get a 1st down or touchdown. Fans look at failed pass plays differently. There's an "at least they're being aggressive" reaction to those.
     
  17. ahoelsken

    ahoelsken Well-Known Member

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    I'd counter you with this-our offense hasn't exactly gone up against the 2000 Ravens. I attached a total defense ranking below. We've seen two teams in the bottom 20 in total D this year (Yes, one of them is Cal), and one in the top 50 (Oregon State). Not only that, but I think Sefo has regressed. Lindgren is his position coach. He's gotta take some responsibility for that.

    http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22/p1
     
  18. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Sure. But you can still say we have made clear progress on offense, despite losing Richardson to the draft. He deserves credit for that, doesn't he? I guess I am confused why you are only calling out a couple offensive coaches and the defensive coaches skate.
     
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    How do you coach dumbasses to pay attention to the snap count?
     
  20. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Lmfao at Bernardi and Lindgren
     
  21. ahoelsken

    ahoelsken Well-Known Member

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    Because of the conference we play in. Unless you're Stanford, you're setting yourself up for a defense that is at best bend but don't break. Go back to those rankings and look at how many Pac 12 defenses were in the top 50 in total defense coming into the day. I think you have to hold your offense to a much higher standard to be successful in this conference.
     
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    As others have said, Lindgren is a valuable asset for us. We sucked in the second half today, but offense has not been an issue by an large. No OCs exist who don't make calls that bewilder fans in retrospect. Given our personnel as a whole, he has worked wonders.
     
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    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Exactly. It's funny to see posters nitpick playcalls when the Offense has been producing
     
  24. DavisBuff

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    Really think this team is pretty well coached from assistants, coordinators to the head coach. We seem to be improving in most phases. But; we should change 1 or 2 coaches to improve recruiting. I would replace Nienas and bring in the best recruiter we could get. Over paying if we have to and giving Walters a raise to keep him happy. If we could bring in two great recruiters, I would sacrifice Bernardi and shift Adams to OL coach or replace Jeffcoat or Charles. Not that any of them are bad just we need to get better at recruiting.
    Replacing Neinas seems like an easy call. Replacing any of the staff MM brought with him would be very hard to do; but, that is part of the business side of college football. I really hope we make 1 or 2 staff changes and keep the overall make up of the staff about the same.
     
  25. bigskybuff

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    Lindgren? Really? This is the first time I've even seen close to an offense in 5 years. His calls can be a little,conservative but at least we're scoring and fun to watch.

    The oline is a pleasant surprise to me this year. Expected the crap we've seen in the past. Players seem to be improving. Kronshage came in and replaced Irwin really well and that's coaching.

    neinas, blah. He has 2 senior kickers and we still aren't very good. Get a recruiter instead.
     
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  26. onealcd

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    Lindgren is the man. Bernardi has done such a good job developing these lineman. Nembot looks good this year and whenever someone gets hurt a young guy comes in and performs well like kronsage and kough. I have been very impressed with his coaching so far. Last week everyone was giving him props about the run game and how Sefo hasn't gotten sacked very much.
     
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    I'm perfectly fine with the criticism of nieces and hope we bring in someone else but I think people are forgetting just how terrible that punt was by darragh. It was supposed to be a rugby punt but instead it was a low fast punt right to the defender which did not allow for coverage to get down.
     
  28. Bufffan68

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    Lindgren is a badass and we're lucky to have him. I wasn't keen on Bernardi at first, but he has turned the unit around. We are the best in the PAC for fewest sacks and our running game has really improved. The ST play is not good...agree with Nik...kind of hard to justify high salary and an entire asst position to someone who isn't making us one of the best units in the country.
     
  29. Bufffan68

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    I read on the board here that assistants were told to go after kids no one is looking at. So...I'm not sure if our recruiters aren't good or if they just can't go after 4-5* guys because that's what they were told to do.
     
  30. sackman

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    Wholesale changes are not warranted. Nienas has to go, though. I'd be satisfied with letting him go and getting a guy who knows how to recruit.
     

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