Very few on this team were recruited for a pro style offense.
The players that they are recruiting and by that I mean signing, do they have the talent, size and speed to compete and have success on a consistent basis at the BCS level?
Very few on this team were recruited for a pro style offense.
The coaching staff has a lot of work to do between now and our being competitive. A lot.
Well hell, why not just give the F*** up and join the MWC, better yet just go join the RMAC and go D2. We are so sure that things are going to suck and suck forever, why not just give up football and basketball all together and go watch the marching band.
What a bunch of pathetic losers, is this what Hawkins has done to you all?
No argument that this years team sucks, we lack size, we lack speed, we lack talent, and we have a bunch of guys who have accepted and embraced losing. To top it off our AD put this whole mess against one of, if not the, toughest schedule of any team in the country.
I am not predicting a bowl next season, I would in fact be shocked if we won six games next year. You don't take a program that is as down as ours is and turn it around in one year or even two or three years.
What I am predicting is that we will be a better football team next year than we are this year. Yes we lose some key players, Speedy is one of the few guys on the team that has a combination of talent and heart. The guys who will be jrs and srs. next year are probably not as talented as the guys who we have as jrs. and srs. this year, and considering the pathetic bunch we have that is a sad statement.
At the same time we have young players coming in who are a step up in talent from who they are replacing. More importantly we are replacing guys who have accepted losing with a group of guys who are Embrees guys and despite his mistakes Embree has not embraced losing like Hawkins did. As the season has gone on this year we have seen guys play harder and with more emotion, not always to successful ends but they at least look like they care.
Next season we will see a further step in the change in attitude, next season we will see more young players who are equiped to compete athletically with the guys they are lining up across from, next season we will see fewer guys who are mediocre, and accept mediocricy and more options to replace them when they do.
Combine this with a weaker OOC schedule and we should see some progress in the win column. I still expect us to get blown out in some games. We don't and won't have the talent to compete with the USCs, the Oregons, even the Washingtons and Arizona States or the world. At the same time we will be more competitive with other teams near the bottom of the conference and with some confidence built in a second off-season with the coaching staff and some winnable OOC games we will see less of the game is over before it starts mentality. It will also help if we don't have complete decimation of certain positions by injury like we saw in the defensive backfield this season.
Anyone who took a realistic look at this roster before the season and expected much different than we got was fooling themselves, especially considering the injury situation. I would have liked to see them win one or two more games, the Washington State game as an example. At the same time 2-3 years ago Washington State was were we are now and this year they won that game, we didn't. Let's use that game as an example not a complaining point.
As a true Buff fan I have confidence that at some time in the near future we will see a team that is competitive and building for better than competitive status. It won't be instant but it will happen. If you can't believe that then I don't understand why you would remain a fan unless you just want to be one of those people who hang around to complain about things.
I will be behind the program. I will yell in support of what I see as good and I will yell against what I see as failure to improve or do what is needed but I will be behind the program and in my heart I know that in time I will be rewarded. I did the same when Mac's teams were getting beaten like a cheap drum in a nursery school and took my grief for that as well. I will vent, I will wince at seeing my Buffs lose, I will get frustrated. For all that I will not lose faith because if I do I might as well go find something else to do with my time and emotional energy.
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This years class is an important step but it goes way past that. We have to improve in talent, we have to improve in execution, and we have to improve in attitude. All three are and will be ongoing. Without all three we will be a perennial also ran.
I see signs that this staff will get it done in all three areas but we really won't know for sure for at least a couple of years. In the mean time LOI day will give us a good indication of if we are on the right track.
The coaching staff has a lot of work to do between now and February. A lot.
Your frustration seems more with cu fans then players and coaches. How do we know these players are better? I would like to see cu players actually reach their highest potential and get coached up. Until I'm given a reason or actually see improvement, there's no way I can honestly say this team will be better next season.
I hope like hell we are and things turn around, the constant losing and looking like we don't belong on the field with most teams has killed any faith or hope to this point.
So if that leaves me out of the "true buff fan club" so be it...
Thank you captain Obvious:lol:
Let's just be honest for a minute. You will give Embree the benefit of the doubt on LOI day, no matter what transpires between now and then.
c'mon skid? real sports that make real news
What I don't expect to see is a top 15 recruiting class and a bowl next year or similar unreasonable expectations at this point in the program.
We have to get better but sometime getting better still doesn't mean you are that good yet, it is a process.
So what kind of recruiting class will you see as progress? Top 50? 40? 30? 20?
You keep throwing this stuff out there every time the topic of recruiting expectations comes up. I have not seen anyone on this site talk about expecting a top 15 class. Not one poster.
Just curious...how do you expect the staff to get in the top 15? We are not getting ahead of Florida, Florida State, Miami, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon - that's 11. USC and Penn State would be twelve and thriteen, but limited schollly's drop tUSC into next tier (and PSU off the map). That leaves 4 where we have to beat out the aforementioned USC plus Clemson, South Carolina, Arkansas, Okie State, Texas A&M, TCU, Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Nebraska who are all having a much better year/decade than CU. Also could throw in Stanford on that list. Udub is tough to beat too. Cal has been recruiting lights out for some reason I can't figure out.
Look, I'm all for high expectations, but I think top 35 is a more realistic target. Not to be a dick, but BB please enlighten me on how Embree is supposed to beat the above named programs into a top 15 class.
Boulder buff never said top 15...
Just curious...how do you expect the staff to get in the top 15? We are not getting ahead of Florida, Florida State, Miami, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon - that's 11. USC and Penn State would be twelve and thriteen, but limited schollly's drop tUSC into next tier (and PSU off the map). That leaves 4 where we have to beat out the aforementioned USC plus Clemson, South Carolina, Arkansas, Okie State, Texas A&M, TCU, Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Nebraska who are all having a much better year/decade than CU. Also could throw in Stanford on that list. Udub is tough to beat too. Cal has been recruiting lights out for some reason I can't figure out.
Look, I'm all for high expectations, but I think top 35 is a more realistic target. Not to be a dick, but BB please enlighten me on how Embree is supposed to beat the above named programs into a top 15 class.
I do not expect a top 15 class, sorry if my post was not clearer. I was trying to point out to MtnBuff that he brings up that mythical expectation pretty much every time this topic comes up and no one on Allbuffs has said anything of the sort.
My expectation for the 2012 class continues to be a top 30-35 class.
In all honesty, if this staff can pull a top 35 class after the year we just had, we should throw a parade.
In all honesty, if this staff can pull a top 35 class after the year we just had, we should throw a parade.
A top 35 class really isn't that hard to get. A couple 4*s and majority of 3*s ought to do it.
For reference:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/fo...isville-100;_ylt=Ai3rQkoZIvL8ex5DyJeDzyjDrZB4
http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/fo...ganstate-30;_ylt=Aneuub12c_RyUnsicuVCBi3DrZB4
http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/fo.../rutgers-13;_ylt=AuyfpQADvdOTFbKhUv6cPArDrZB4
http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/fo...1/kansas-20;_ylt=AqaKE.4IEOsrOCKUCIbjOE_DrZB4
Where do we rank against the p12 right now?
Very few on this team were recruited for a pro style offense.