Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Goose, Jun 1, 2011.
You are not alone when it comes to magazines and I got those three already. I ordered my Phil Steele magazine online and if I don't get it before they are available in stores, I will not do that again due to the high shipping charges.
Last? Really? I know we wont be great by any means, but we never finished last under Hawkins or Fairbanks if I recall, our two worst stretches in program history.
I can see us finishing above UCLA and possibly Arizona.
Picked up Athlon, reading now....
Finish ahead of Arizona? Anything is possible and I don't think we will be bad but Arizona is pretty good.
Outside of Foles, Arizona is about on the same talent level as CU, they just had better coaching. There's no way in hell we finish last in the South this season, more so 4th or 3rd at best.
Arizona has a legit WR corps tho. It will be a shoot-out that's for sure
They lose their entire OL, and only one guy has even played a sanp at OL per athlon, plus they have only one RB returning with any experience, too bad we get them at the end of the schedule.
Let's look at the South schools:
USC: Where will their heads be at when they visit Boulder?
UCLA: Ditto here especially if the season is lost for the Bruins by then.
UA: Ditto...they didn't finish on a high note last season.
ASU: The favorite to win the South. They should get it done this year.
Utah: They don't play Oregon or Stanford but a berth for the P12 CCG could be on the line for the Utes when CU visits.
I think we go 3-2 against the South schools since ASU and Utah are on the road. As for crossover games with the North, we have WSU @Stanford, @UW, and Oregon. It seems like the UW game will be pretty pivotal but if we win that one, a 5-4 record in the P12 is doable. That means we will have to go at least 2-2 in OOC games which is doable.
A bowl game this year should be the goal. A divisional much less a conference title would be icing on the cake.
I just don't think Arizona is very good, I'm still not sold on Arizona state either even though a lot of people are picking them to win the south. Erickson is still their coach and he hasn't done that great there.
The Sporting News picked Utah to win the Pac-12 South.
They could, I see the Pac-12 south this year being like the Big 12 South in the late 90's or the Big 12 Noth in the mid 00's. USC can't win, and just a couple decent teams left, but nobody really great. IMO the division is gonna be way up for grabs. Gonna be interesting.
Very similar to how the Big 12 started out but the Pac-12 should stay together since we don't have a Texas demanding more money than the other schools.
If the Pac-12 does well, I wonder if it will have a direct impact on the Big 12 staying together.
i predict that utah will not win the south.
True, but we also don't have Iowa State or Kansas in our division anymore. The Pac 12 South is no joke, it should be pretty competetive most years.
Not this year. no great teams and i would say UCLA and Arizona are comparable to Iowa state and Kansas in recent years. Competitive this year yes by default because there aren't any teams that strike out as being all that great.
Uniformed post is uninformed. While Arizona may not be bursting with elite talent, they are still more talented than us at several positions. And even if it were only Foles, the QB position is kinda important, isn't it?
Reading the B10/11/12 preview, I continue to be amazed at just how retarded the whole leaders/legends division thing is. It's almost as bad as Let's Go Rammin'....
Yes of course it's important but Arizona still isn't some team with great talent and the wins they had last season, weren't exactly impressive and all but three were on the road; Citadel, WSU, UCLA, which isn't exactly impressive road wins.
Damn fellas, I just want a road win game 1 lol.
There may not be a dominant team, but the same could be said for the Big 12 North for pretty much the last decade. And UCLA may be down, but they're going to out-recruit Iowa State by a mile 9 out of every 10 years and will always be a better draw for coaches, so I wouldn't classify them as the perennial bottom feeder that ISU was.
I think you'e missing my point, I'm talking about this year only.
I got your point, but your original post seemed to reason that we wouldn't finish last because even the worst coaches in our history never finished last in our division - my point is that those divisions were weaker than the Pac 12 South...even this year. UCLA may be a team in serious trouble, but there is still more talent on that roster than the godawful ISU teams of years past.
As excited as I am for the Pac-12, it will be more competitive than the Big 12 for sure. Unlike Iowa State, Washington State has had big time success and actual conference crowns to show for it.
I want to stress that every Pac-12 school has won a conference title since the 1990's and that is not something that the Big 12, ACC, Big Ten, and SEC fans can say about their conferences.
The P12S schedule doesn't line up that well for CU:
@UCLA (45% chance at a W) hcRN fighting for his life
@Utah (15%) Most stable coaching staff.
@ASU (25%) A date with the devil on halloween weekend
USC in Boulder (25%) Trojans have the horses. It's a question of will.
Arizona in Boulder (60%) Like CU's chances at home.
With only two home games in the division, it's imperative for the program to get the road loss monkey off it's back (in Hawaii) or risk being basement dwellers. Until I see the special team and defense play (and game day coaching) it's hard to move the Buffs out of underdog status for any game except CSU and Wazzu.
3 way Pac-10 Co Champions in 1993.... how did they get screwed out of going to the Rose Bowl that year? I thought the tie-breaker was the team that hasn't been there the longest....
Wasn't '93 when they had the Desert Swarm defense?
It might have been but I thought it was 91 or 92, I just remember them beating the piss out of the U in the Fiesta Bowl. You are right it was 93, that's when they beat the U anyway. Think they got dubbed the Desert Swarm for a few years but could be wrong on that.
Love the completely arbitrary percentages! I'd say 58% of your predictions have a 73% chance of being right.
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