weren't you the one slitting your wrists in the chat room over embree and the lack of progressHawkins: Montana State :lol:
Barnett: Getting blown out by CSU when we were a Top 15 ranked team.
Give Jon and staff a chance.
weren't you the one slitting your wrists in the chat room over embree and the lack of progress
You forgot one.All were losses. Only benefit of the doubt I can give Embree is: 1) game was on the road; 2) Jon's first ever game as head coach.
You forgot one.
3) This roster is far less talented than the other two. The OL talent is so bad that I'll be surprised if Asiata isn't starting before long as a true frosh. Depth is sorely lacking across the board.
Give the man a chance. This will take a couple more recruiting classes to fix.
You forgot one.
3) This roster is far less talented than the other two. The OL talent is so bad that I'll be surprised if Asiata isn't starting before long as a true frosh. Depth is sorely lacking across the board.
Give the man a chance. This will take a couple more recruiting classes to fix.
The oline talent was worse when hawk took over, wasn't it?
CU historically has rough HC debuts.
You forgot one.
3) This roster is far less talented than the other two. The OL talent is so bad that I'll be surprised if Asiata isn't starting before long as a true frosh. Depth is sorely lacking across the board.
Give the man a chance. This will take a couple more recruiting classes to fix.
Jimmy being rational and preaching patience?
i believe it was. didnt they have only 8 oline people for the first spring practice?
I'm pretty confident Embree will do a better job at CU than Barney and Hawk combined. It's going to be tough, but he'll get us there.
That is too funny, and what exactly is the equation to determine that level of success? You don't think that together Hawk ruins Barney's accomplishments just a tad? What a retarded statement.
true, but hawk did beat oklahoma. It was a solid win and that's pretty much what i was referring to combing the two. It's not like either of them were blowing the doors off with accomplishments. Barney has 2001 and that's about it. i don't really put much stock in the b12 north wins where we got plowed out of the stadium by texas and oklahoma in the ccg.
as for the all important equation for success, i'd say we could start at winning the p12 south twice. Winning the p12 would also get us there. I'm sorry i can't put it in a mathematical formula for you, dr. Mike.
True, but Hawk did beat Oklahoma. It was a solid win and that's pretty much what I was referring to combing the two. It's not like either of them were blowing the doors off with accomplishments. Barney has 2001 and that's about it. I don't really put much stock in the B12 north wins where we got plowed out of the stadium by Texas and Oklahoma in the CCG.
As for the all important equation for success, I'd say we could start at winning the P12 south twice. Winning the P12 would also get us there. I'm sorry I can't put it in a mathematical formula for you, Dr. Mike.
i'm tired of measuring progress in moral victories. i like embree and i hope he and the staff get it done, but they don't have a ton to work with, based upon what we saw a second or maybe even third tier program do to them.
Rebuilding our program is going to require outperforming our talent level on occasion to get the ball rolling on the recruiting front.
I guess I don't have the bar set as high as you. I'd give my left nut to get blown out in a CCG after what we have experienced for the last 5 years and likely at least a few more. I can't even see a bowl game in our foreseeable future with such an inept offense. Those days seem pretty damn good to me right now.
Hawkins: Montana State :lol:
Barnett: Getting blown out by CSU when we were a Top 15 ranked team.
Give Jon and staff a chance.
Patience maybe not normal, but he was right about Hawk before most of us. It's the politics board where the irrationality comes into play :smile2:
You don't necessarily need wins to recruit well. Washington was terrible and what Sarkisian did there was amazing. We need to shoot for that