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Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Duff Man, Dec 5, 2008.

  1. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    The last couple of posts are clueless bringing race into the picture.
     
  3. Scotch

    Scotch Registered User Club Member Junta Member

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    It's always funny when I hear Texans say we have high opinions of ourselves. Apparently they don't look in the mirror too often.
     
  4. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    This was the best, most accurate post of the whole thread:

    "It's not even the "hippies" that are the worst part - it's the limousine liberals and their associated snobbery and patronizing attitudes. Boulder sucks. The location and town are awesome, but it would need to be repopulated with decent people before I could live there."

    I would have a difficult time saying it any better. Boulder itself is wonderful. The people who infect the town are unbearable.
     
  5. 96 Buff

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    aggy did some good brainwashing on most of those posters.
     
  6. Mick Ronson

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    Texans=hilarious.
     
  7. buffs04

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    I think it's interesting that people have this dated perception of Boulder being some kind of hippie mecca. I don't know how it was before I got here, but in my experience this town is trending more and more away from that. I'm sitting in the library right now and look around myself and not one of the 100 or so students in sight are anything but "normal" looking people. This has been my experience by and large during my years here.

    There are always the clowns with way too much of their parents' money doing way too many drugs, but most of those are gone after freshmen year because they fail miserably. This "hippie BS" has always struck me as a bit of nonsense. Of course there are idiots that do too many drugs and think it's cool to dread their hair when they are from Greenwich, CT. You have those kind of people everywhere. They are so far from the majority in this town that the fact that stereotype still perpetuates itself is amazing to me.

    The one thing I will say, however, that a lot of those guys were right on the money about is the liberal-elitism thing here. I could definitely do without that, but you take the good with the bad, as with all things.
     
  8. SBG

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    Real hippies didn't admire wealth and possessions. In Boulder, there are few real hippies left. It's too expensive to live there. I don't know why that stigma still exists, because if anything it's just a very liberal/progressive town.
     
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    All the real hippies are in Ward now.
     
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    I like it better than the southern suburbs like Highlands Rance, where the SUV driving, cell-phone yapping, narrow-minded neoconservatives that obliviously meander all over the runway sized roads between their cookie-cutter house and mind-control church reside.

    As long as we're generalizing.....


    And I hope that you realize I am just kidding of course.

    :jester::canabis::hippie:
     
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    Scotch Registered User Club Member Junta Member

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    :lol:
     
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    As long as we're completely changing the subject...I do realize you're kidding. :smile2:

    But the guy's post was dead-on accurate. I've been searching for an apt description of the attitude that permiates that city, and he nailed it. "limousine liberals with associated snobbery & patronizing attitudes". Perfect. And remember I'm a Boulder native. I've seen what the city has become. Lots of folks think Boulder was always this way. It wasn't.
     
  13. Skidmark

    Skidmark Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    Dang. Culturally Boulder and Collie Station are ying and yang.

    -One is filled block heads with crew cuts. The other has block heads with dreds.
    -One resembles a military cult. The other resembles a love mother earth cult.
    -One is baptist/methodist. The other is "open" to every non-Muslim religion on the planet.
    -Status vehicle is a RWD Ford with a gun rack. Status vehicle 4WD Saab/Audi/Subaru with a Thule.
    -Male yell leaders. Female cheerleaders.
    -A dog and a bonfire. A Buffalo and a bong.
    -Rock/Country. Reggae/Alternative.
    -Bush Library. Never going to have a presidential library.
    -Afraid of cold and snow. Hates 90-100 temperatures.
    -Rape victim suffers in silence. Rape victim lawsuit lands millions.
    -Alumni wears rings, has diploma on wall, and directory on desk. Alumni don't know where diploma is. Never seen a CU class ring.
    -Don't know what Tevas, Crocks or Birkenstocks are. Don't know what leather boots or steel toes feel like.
    -Fried Chicken and Mesquite BBQ is good eats. Twigs, bark and falafal is good eats.
    -Cheap mass brewed domestic beer. Anything but.
    -Consevative Republican. Liberal Democrat.
    -Obese by 30. Skinny, but skin looks like leather.
    -Dallas/Houston is center of universe. Assumes its in Tibet.

    That's a start.
     
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    :thumbsup:

    I tend to agree. My wife is a Boulder native, and my in-laws have been there for 30 years. My father-in-law is a Philosophy professor at CU... so I sometimes get defensive.

    I think you're right in many regards. Boulder is filled with hypocritical rich folks who view the 'boulder bubble' as 'theirs'. They take the liberal viewpoint personally, and take great pride in Boulder's status as a liberal haven. As such, other viewpoints are quickly put down, and outsiders are looked upon with disdain. Because the residents are generally so proud of the liberal label, it often irrationally permeates every orifice :)lol:) of the city, including government.

    So, the 'weird' part of the 'keep Boulder weird' has been distorted over time to become an identity for the people who live there. The residents feel the must live up to this identity :huh:

    I try to be cognizant of labeling all the residents however. Rich out-of-state money finds a home in the city via the form of out-of-state students, and I think that can sometimes tint and damage the image of Boulder citizens.

    Even as a liberal, I get tired of Boulder. I like living in Broomfield which is a much more moderate town... but I am close enough to drive in and get a taste of the city every once in awhile.
     
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    :lol::lol::lol: I think that's just a little on the nose.

    However, My wife and were talking about what Sacky mentions in his post. My wife grew up in Boulder, and I spent a good portion of my pre-college life there because my mom was commuting to get advanced degreees at CU. Boulder used to be a much better city, but even since the first part of the decade it's changed immeasurably, and I think for the worse. Think about what's changed, just down around pearl street in particular:

    St. Julians, the new condos and apartments, all the antique and patchouli merchants replaced with Urban Outfitters, American Apparal and the Gap.

    It stretches further than that: 29th street mall replacing crossroads; fewer and fewer independent restaurants and stores replaced by more and more higher-end chains.

    Regardless of your opinions of hippies (I friggin' hate them) they did a good job of keeping giant establishments out of town. Ironically they've been displaced by an influx of deep pocketed Californians and Texans. Boulder USED to be unique. It's not anymore, and it makes me a sad panda.
     
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    thats friggin awesome!!! :lol: you should post it on that site. i gotta SSR but that is gleeb worthy as it comes!!! well done!
     
  17. buffs04

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    The biggest issue with Boulder politically is the fervor in which the raging liberals in this town - and there are a lot of them - more or less crucify people with differing opinions. People here get WAAAY carried away with that kind of stuff. The attitude is, more or less, if you aren't very left of center, not only are you wrong, but you are a horrible human being and deserve to be chastised extensively. You can count on the people that know the least to project this mentality the most, ironically.

    I'm sorry, but there's nothing really "progressive" about that.
     
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    He would change his opinion if he visited this site at all.
     
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    I'm not a big fan of 29th St. Mall, but Crossroads was a mostly empty/abandoned blight on that area of town.
     
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    Troo. He would realize that west side Colorado folks are not only nicer, but also smarter and better looking... :smile2:
     
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    fify
     
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    Well, I have maybe a little perspective. I was raised in West Texas and live 20 minutes from Boulder with three kids in CU and two who live there. First, there is a kind of culture in Colorado to "hate" Texans. So, when they come here, and they aren't too tough to pick out, they probably pick up on the vibes. I think Coloradan's perception of Texans kind of sucks. Texans tend to be some of the nicest folks anywhere. OTOH, I've seen some rich Texans, who are probably nice people, look and come across as kind of haughty taughty, thus feeding the Coloradan's impressions of Texans. So, it's a matter of misconceived perception on both sides. One other thing, Texas and Cal send more kids to CU than any other states. I wonder how many Colorado kids go to Texas schools?
     
  23. Skidmark

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    Ever since the invention of affordable air conditioning, there are a lot fewer Texans who summer in the Colorado mountains. It doesn't stop them from fueling the ski industry.

    Growing up in Colorado, I was indoctrinated in the firm belief that Texans think they own everything, and when it comes to high country real estate, many of them do own some choice second homes. In the tourist industry, visiting Texans do treat you nice in that condescending way that makes you feel like hired help. If pushed, there is often the snide and boisterous "if you don't like us, we'll take our money and go home" attitude just under the surface.

    Now that I am a 10+ year economic refugee of Dallas, That attitude is tempered. I have learned that the most annoying aspect of Coloradans is the belief that when you live in a beautiful place, that somehow makes you a beautiful person.

    Coloradans travel the world projecting disappointment that their destination is less desireable than their home. e.g. "We don't live in Lincoln"

    The other trait of Coloradans is that they are so suspicious of losing their personal independence that it stifles a healthy economy. Coloradans are culturally unable to come up with a big idea, build a company around it, and headquarter it in the state, and turn it into a fortune 50. In the pantheon of big business, Janus funds, Qwest, Crocs, Boston Market, Level 3, and others loom no where near the top. It's amazing how many corporations flock to Texas, while Colorado's business flee.

    At the end of the day, Texas is a hot place with spikey vegitation. Texans believe it's their birth right to scrape the land, kill the animal, drill the well, and use their wits to roll big dice and make big money. Nature is to be dominated, not merely enjoyed for what it is.

    Coloradoans are content to bask in the magisty of their setting, taking nothing from mother nature except a picture, and leaving nothing except a footprint. They pursue intellectual interests without the motive of profit, while grinding out careers in dead end jobs, content to live for the weekend, suspicious that Colorado is the playground for the rich, not a birth place for the rich.

    Those are my over-reaching stereotypes, and I'm sticking to them.
     
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    I left Boulder 16 years ago after living there for three years while attending grad school. I lived in Denver for four years before that for undergrad. As a kid, I moved around a lot but spent a good amount of time on the Western Slope and in New Mexico. When I lived in Boulder it really just seemed to me like Fort Collins or Grand Junction, but with $$$.

    You can call Boulderites "limousine liberals" but there's a lot more limousine than liberal. All that open space? That's not environmentalism, that's protection of real estate values. Hostility to university expansion? NIMBYism at its finest.

    Coloradans like to attribute the elitism in Boulder to liberalism, but many Coloradans think completely moderate views are "liberal." I attribute the elitism many feel when their in Boulder to money, not politics.
     
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    I live in Boulder and I think it is a few people who ruin the reputation for the rest of us. Southern Boulder, near Fairview HS tends to be more stuck up than those who live downtown or in north Boulder. Many to all of the people I come across with seem nice and personable. Maybe people have the perception that we are snooty just because it costs a lot of money to live heer. I do agree that the Peloton and giant houses in south Boulder are not making the situation any better.
     
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    Skiddy, I love you. :lol::lol::lol:
     
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    I lived in Dallas and that town is the worst when it comes to snobbery and people who only seemed concerned with designer labels and Mercedes cars. I lived in Newport Beach and it was similiar, but Dallas had this 'tude on such a wide scale. It's those snobs that tend to come to Vail and act like they own the mtn. They also send their spoiled kids to ski here for college. They dope out, drop out, and then blame it on Boulder coulter..... I know that 99% of Texans are solid, but it's the 1% that come here and make the biggest spectacle possible.....
     
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    Dallas has a value system of excess, just like Hollywood. But gone is the proximity to pesky beachfronts, postcard views of palm trees, mountains, or a comfortable climate. Here in LA East, err Dallas, shopping is how free time is spent. When it comes to plastic surgery and appearance, the motto is, "If it can be fixed, then you should do it." This is a town that strives to keep up with the (Jerry) Jones. Dallas is the ONLY major city in the US that does not have a four year college within it's city boundaries. (SMU is in an enclave called Vail South, University Park). This is Cherry Creek on steroids. Consider that the neighborhood where W is moving is an executive ghetto for the leaders of Exxon/Mobile, headquartered in neighboring Las Collinas. If you are a senior leader at Exxon/Mobile, and your company has made 20 billion in quarterly profits, you are going to get a fat bonus that will buy a nice house not so far from the office. Then the executives from EDS, TI, AT&T, JC Penney, and all of the law firms and adverising executives who support them need somewhere to live. This is where they go.

    Their trustafarian kids who have been spending christmas in Beaver Creek since they were little just might want to go to CU instead of an Ivy League school. Imagine that.

    It is a mistake, however, to equate the excesses of Dallas (or Houston) with the whole state of Texas. Outside of Dallas, Harris, Travis, Tarrent, and Collins counties, you will not find many Lamborginis, Lotus, Bentleys, Mercs or Beemers. These exotic fruits of outrageous discretionary spending are greated with disdane around the Farm to Market roads of the other two hundred some odd counties of Texas.

    Most Texans are too strapped to ever make it to Colorado, even if they wanted to. Hell, a lot of people from Dallas have never even visited downtown Ft. Worth, which is only 30 miles away. Many are scraping by, just like everywhere else.

    When there is an ice storm in Dallas, maybe 2 or 3 days every five years, the entire city grinds to a halt. Schools are cancelled. People stay home. The concept of driving when it is snowing is foreign, scarry, and impossible. Ice storms glaze the roads with ice. Texans naturally assume any frozen percipitation is ice, and therefore Texans don't know how to drive in what Coloradoans consider relatively mild winter conditions. With very few exceptions, the roads in Texas are flat and dry. The combination of ice and winding mountain roads conspire to reinforce the stereotype that Texans are stupid, because if you see a Texas plate in front of you on a mountain pass, you are guaranteed to get pissed off by someone who drives like grandpa on the way to Denny's after church. When you see them pile out of the car wearing a brand new ski outfit with color coordinated boots and poles, this only adds fuel to the fire.

    Kids from rural communities in Texas tend to prefer A&M over UT because it is more of a Salt of the Earth kind of place that Sarah Palin might call "Real Texas" if she were to campaign there. The city and suburb kids will often aspire to UT, and settle for A&M or Tech, or North Texas if they don't get in to UT. Many more will go to AT-Arlington or Stephen F Austin, or St Mary's or one of the many small colleges. So basically, in Colorado terms, an Aggie is what you get when you crossbread CSU with the AFA. This is a place with a chip on it's shoulder that happens when rural kids clash with city kids. And they compensate through tradition steeped in love of country and military-style hierarchies.
     
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    Regarding the assertion that Boulder is a "moderate" town, I'm going to have to disagree with that, heh.
     

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