Come on Nik, when the other team gets on a roll you need to call a TO to quell momentum, especially on the road. Not to mention to regroup and calm things down on your own team.
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Games thread- MEN'S BBALL on the road at USC (Thursday, 1/12/23, 7:00 PM MT; Pac 12 Network) & #7 UCLA (Saturday, 6:00 PM MT, Fox)
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Come on Nik, when the other team gets on a roll you need to call a TO to quell momentum, especially on the road. Not to mention to regroup and calm things down on your own team.
It was a 17-0 run, but hey, who's counting
That's one philosophy. If I don't see bad body language and bad defense, I would not call a TO.
Did you read the post I was responding to?
There was a time out in the middle of that run. The media time out. Do those not count? Do you think during the media time outs the teams just stand on the court and don’t treat it like a called time out?
It's not about breaking a press, we had no issue doing that in many games before. We are just severely outmatched. Everyone who watched this game knows that we were up only because UCLA had cold shooting night. It's not because of our awesome defense (except for LL, he had god level defense today).
When their shot started falling, the game was basically over. You can't win at UCLA with 20+ turnovers. I'm not sure any team in US can.
When their shot started falling, the game was basically over. You can't win at UCLA with 20+ turnovers. I'm not sure any team in US can.
Formerly_Medford
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First half is different than the second half
Did you see us turn the ball over 8 times in a 3 minute stretch?
Not sure body language is the indicator here
Been a lot of 50/50 balls and I'm not sure we've come up with one of them.
Formerly_Medford
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Yeah...defending not calling a TO is purely being a Tad apologist in this case. You always use your TOs to stop runs. ALWAYS.
GABuff
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A 5 point lead became a 10 point deficit- but heck we still have 3 time outs. At some point a bandaid might be needed to stop the blood flow.
I'm not disagreeing so much as saying it's not the only way to play it. And the tv timeout was in the middle of the run but did nothing to help.
Do the TV timeouts come immediately after good / bad plays by our team, or just whenever in the game they come?
We still have 2 timeouts left now, with 1:20 left. Are they going to help now?
When you team on the court has no leadership, they aren't going to self correct mid game.
We turned a 9 pt lead, with 10 mins to go, into a ****ing 20 pt blowout.
Formerly_Medford
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And we should have won this except out coach refuse to do something every other coach in existence does.
Don't make excuses for this one. Tad blew this.
If you think we lost this game because Tad didn’t call a time out, you are clueless. We’re overmatched, and we’ve turned the ball over 20 times. Had a chance to maybe steal the game because UCLA missed their first 15 3s. UCLA turned on the defense, we didn’t respond, and some shots for UCLA started falling.
Jaquez is by a wide margin the best player on the floor, and Bona was the clearly the second best player in the second half.
Jaquez is by a wide margin the best player on the floor, and Bona was the clearly the second best player in the second half.
You forgot the flawed coach part.
You think we should have won this? The only way we were winning this was if UCLA stayed ice cold and the refs would have not allowed them to play aggressive defense.
You wouldn’t have any left at the end of the game.
All of this.
But, we were full on stupid in the second half, too. When a dude has blocked shot after shot, maybe stop going right at him.
Formerly_Medford
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Refs aren't to blame here, and I'm all for blaming refs.
If UCLA had stayed "ice cold" you'd be lauding or defense and screaming "Tad Ball" from the rooftops!
Blame Tad when it's deserved. He's far from being beyond criticism.
Formerly_Medford
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Also, we were up 9 points with how much time left, and you act like this game was unwinnable...
I'm frustrated because we put ourselves in position after 30 minutes of basketball. But I knew what we were facing and there's not a lot you can do when a team like that smells blood in the water.
The USC game is the one that pissed me off. We didn't get fight from the whole team in that one and blew a game we needed. That one, ASU, Cal, Grambling, UMass and Boise State are all games I felt we would have won if everyone had just been focused and playing hard for 40 minutes.
The USC game is the one that pissed me off. We didn't get fight from the whole team in that one and blew a game we needed. That one, ASU, Cal, Grambling, UMass and Boise State are all games I felt we would have won if everyone had just been focused and playing hard for 40 minutes.
Not calling a TO certainly isn't why we lost but it could have changed the course of the game if called early on enough. Granted, given how the tide changed so drastically it likely wouldn't have mattered