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Hansen interview on Portland radio

I hope ur right, I wasnt starting **** with you, just that we are not very physical. You do a great job on the board and the other mods do good too. What is this about Givens and Miller fighting? Meaning was it something they brought with them to college? I have never heard, knew, or read that?

Yeah. They had to bury the hatchet when they both ended up at CU.

(And don't worry about starting something. I didn't think you were, but sometimes it makes things more fun/interesting when people do. And it's pretty easy to argue with me on this one. All it takes is: 3-9, under 4 yards per carry, 44 sacks allowed in 2009. :smile2:)

P.S. Thanks for the thanks.
 
Not worried, I just wanted to make sure it didnt come across that way with you. I still have some arrogant Texan in me so some folks think Im talking mess when Im not trying to. Glad to see those guys came together, gotta have a unit up front more than anywhere.
 
Here's the balance from Hawkins' last 2 seasons at Boise State:

2004: 2,758 rushing (596 attempts) / 3,154 passing (355 attempts)
2005: 2,632 rushing (560 attempts) / 2,892 passing (390 attempts)

He actually favors a very balanced attack that skews toward running the ball.

Looking at the same seasons at Cal while OC Eric Kiesau was coaching the WRs and being mentored by Tedford:

2004: 3,081 rushing (509 attempts) / 2,828 passing (331 attempts)
2005: 2,823 rushing (483 attempts) / 2,312 passing (321 attempts)

The 4 years at CU also show something interesting, I think:

2006: 2,070 rushing (471 attempts) / 1,422 passing (254 attempts)
2007: 1,875 rushing (485 attempts) / 3,046 passing (476 attempts)
2008: 1,494 rushing (439 attempts) / 2,328 passing (404 attempts)
2009: 1,044 rushing (379 attempts) / 2,717 passing (473 attempts)

I believe that there has been a major disconnect between what Hawkins (and Kiesau now) want to do versus what they are able to do. In 2006, we couldn't pass worth a lick and were forced into over 200 more rushing attempts than passing attempts. In 2007 and 2008, we ran a bit more than we passed but as the OL broke down in 2008 we simply did not do anything well the last half of the season. In 2009 we got down early and had to air it out (plus Kiesau panicked a bit early in the season as a 1st time coordinator) and we ended up throwing the ball nearly 100 more times over the course of the season than we ran it.

You can look at this as a trend that shows a change in offensive philosophy that has been bad for the program. But I would point back to what these guys did at their previous stops. People tend to repeat the things they have done that worked / made them successful. For that reason, I completely expect that with a veteran and talented offensive line in 2010 that we will see the Buff get back to playing the balanced football that Hawkins and Kiesau favor. I think we'll see our rushing and passing attempts come out about equal this year and we will be a physical team as Hansen talked about in his interview.

That would be great but I don't think that Hawkins is the Xs and Os guy nor does he have an offensive philosophy. I think what you saw at Boise Hawkins last two years is the steady hand of Chris Peterson.

I think they pass so much because they cannot gain any yards running. Only one season with over 4 yards per attempt.
 
Aren't sacks counted as running plays in college? I'd be curious what those numbers look like if sacks were actually counted as pass plays (because they are pass plays).

The point you're making is totally valid and I agree that they'd probably like a more balanced attack, but I think the numbers are worse than they appear.
 
Here's the balance from Hawkins' last 2 seasons at Boise State:

2004: 2,758 rushing (596 attempts) / 3,154 passing (355 attempts)
2005: 2,632 rushing (560 attempts) / 2,892 passing (390 attempts)

With Chris Peterson as his OC ... just sayin'
 
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