1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Helfrich interviewing at Oregon (No longer CU OC)

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by sliderNcider, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2008
    Messages:
    17,283
    Likes Received:
    1,819
    Good or bad (if he leaves)?

    I know a lot of guys are down on him including me but this really isn't good timing. If he leaves, it will be very difficult to find a new coach. Right when we're about to turn the corner (IMO) the players will have to learn a new offense. They won't even have Spring Ball to learn the offense. I never thought I'd say this, but I hope he stays. He does have Oregon ties...

    http://www.cubuffs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3843&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&ATCLID=3725318
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2009
  2. DBT

    DBT Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2005
    Messages:
    58,593
    Likes Received:
    4,722
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    It is neither good nor bad. I hope he doesn't go, that would be bad. But if he interviews and stays, that would be good.
     
  3. sweaty teets

    sweaty teets Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2007
    Messages:
    13,098
    Likes Received:
    1,431
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    kiesau... :woot:
     
  4. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2008
    Messages:
    17,283
    Likes Received:
    1,819
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    It's interesting to see people throw his name out there. We love him as a recruiter...but realistically could he be a good play-caller? Everyone loves to hate on McD because of his age and Kiesau is what...27? A knock on Helfrich was his limited experience as a play-caller before CU, and Kiesau has none. Just something interesting IMO.

    Oregon sure likes to piggyback CU tho (Helfrich, Kiesau, our recruits) **** the Duck!!!
     
  5. sweaty teets

    sweaty teets Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2007
    Messages:
    13,098
    Likes Received:
    1,431
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    lets hope so! no, but he did get promoted earlier this year to associate coach (or something like that, who knows). i think hawk has confidence in him, and his enthusiasm is infectious among players and recruits. we'll see if helfrich even takes the job.
     
  6. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2007
    Messages:
    27,301
    Likes Received:
    5,993
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    If you can't bring Diante Jackson to the mountain, you bring the mountain to Diante Jackson.
     
  7. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    12,553
    Likes Received:
    207
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    Jon Embree FTW!
     
  8. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    10,200
    Likes Received:
    1,636
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    Kiesau is 35 (older than Josh McD)... The best in the game started somewhere. You have to promote Kiesau if this happens as someone else will take him soon enough otherwise, and the likely landing spot would be just Ducky.
     
  9. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2008
    Messages:
    17,283
    Likes Received:
    1,819
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    Won't happen unless he can coach QB's. Maybe Kiesau could coach QB's since he was a college QB at Portland State. It will be very interesting if Helfrich leaves.....
     
  10. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    12,553
    Likes Received:
    207
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    Promote Kiesau and bring in a new QB coach.

    Koy Detmer or someone like that.
     
  11. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2008
    Messages:
    26,034
    Likes Received:
    2,147
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon


    thats a hell of an idea isnt detmers nephew or son or something a QB this year
     
  12. buffsyko

    buffsyko Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    Messages:
    10,658
    Likes Received:
    303
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    First off, I think helfrich hasn't done much and his playcalling will leave you scratching your eyes out but if he would go to oregon, that is HORRIBLE timing. The week of the spring game?

    CU would be left with trying to impliment the new OC's offense in the fall. Yeah, that'll be good.

    The state and their coaching contracts is assanine and it's time CU quit putting themselves behind the rest of the big 12 and get in the game.
     
  13. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2006
    Messages:
    39,757
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    Exactly.
     
  14. buffsyko

    buffsyko Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    Messages:
    10,658
    Likes Received:
    303
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    The timing is a bit lame don't you think?
     
  15. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2006
    Messages:
    39,757
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    A bit. You would still have the summer and this is where an experienced coach like Denver Johnson comes in handy. Hopefully he would be able to help the new guy along.
     
  16. buffsyko

    buffsyko Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    Messages:
    10,658
    Likes Received:
    303
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    True but he won't have the practice time and to try and do it in the fall is concerning (if it happens)

    Last thing we need is any more questions on what offense we are trying to run.
     
  17. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2007
    Messages:
    27,301
    Likes Received:
    5,993
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    Ballenger jumped too soon.
     
  18. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2006
    Messages:
    39,757
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    I tend to agree. I think promoting from within eases a lot of those questions though IMO.

    The big question becomes who coaches the QBs.
     
  19. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2007
    Messages:
    27,301
    Likes Received:
    5,993
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    Interesting spring so far.

    New OL coach
    OC interviewing
    QB controversy and Ballenger departure
    No offensive identity
    Thin at WR
    No captains announced

    Who's driving the bus?
     
  20. The Guest

    The Guest Guest

    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    O'doyle Rules!!

    [​IMG]
     
  21. buffsyko

    buffsyko Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    Messages:
    10,658
    Likes Received:
    303
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    :lol::lol::lol::thumbsup:
     
  22. The Monk

    The Monk Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    3,579
    Likes Received:
    304
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    This is how we are getting Oregon back for Diante Jackson, I presume.
     
    1 person likes this.
  23. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    22,246
    Likes Received:
    654
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    Captains are never announced until just before the first game.
     
  24. rodrigo

    rodrigo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2008
    Messages:
    1,122
    Likes Received:
    96
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    This is hilarious. Some of you guys spend the last two years hating on Helfrich , now you're whining cuz he might leave.

    Whaaaaaa!!!!!!!!
     
  25. DukeCityBuff

    DukeCityBuff New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2007
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    4
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    What about Kiesau and Johnson as OC. Kiesau continues with WR and Johnson has Brad Bedell to help with the line. Then we bring in an up and coming QB coach that can actual coach up a QB.
     
  26. AlferdJasper

    AlferdJasper Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    8,535
    Likes Received:
    679
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon


    I wondered the same thing.
     
  27. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2005
    Messages:
    9,868
    Likes Received:
    271
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    at least we aren't parading kids to Boulder County jail like a year ago.

    i'm a fan of kiesau but i'd like to have someone who's called plays (effectively) before rather than a 2nd straight learn on the job scenario.

    get Chuck Long on staff, call some plays...work with the QB's.
     
  28. SkiTownUSA

    SkiTownUSA Administrator Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2008
    Messages:
    7,411
    Likes Received:
    198
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    :nod: :thumbsup:
     
  29. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2006
    Messages:
    4,202
    Likes Received:
    551
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    I'm not necessarily a big Helfrich fan. It really doesn't matter who's handling the job as long as the Buffs are winning.

    Having said that I do agree with the bad timing angle and it exposes a flaw in the contract structure of the state.

    It's pretty self defeatist to go out and hire a messiah to restore greatness to the Colorado football program and then undermine the hire by not providing his staff with any financial security and inducements to stay put.

    A constantly shifting staff isn't a good thing for the program and I wonder if Hawkins eventually gets frustrated with it to the point that he starts entertaining other possibilities down the road
     
  30. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2008
    Messages:
    13,088
    Likes Received:
    2,503
    Re: Helfrich interviewing at Oregon

    I agree with the folks who say "hire from within" on this one (if H leaves). The new power run offense isn't exactly Helfrich's idea, anyway, and Denver Johnson or Kiesau could come right in and run the new offense better.

    My vote would be for Denver - he has the experience, the immediate respect of the players, and he has the power run mentality.
     

Share This Page