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Is Hawkins the problem....

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Buff fanatic, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. Buff fanatic

    Buff fanatic Well-Known Member

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    or is it Ron sack of **** Collins??? I dont know that we fire Hawk, really dont. Who's coming thats better? Offense looked fine in 2nd half, actually, pretty good. The plan of running the ****ing football was great until the D gave up 700 yards. Holy ****. Dont know that Hawks the issue. (and yes, I know who hired Ron Collins)
     
  2. SkiTownUSA

    SkiTownUSA Administrator Club Member Junta Member

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    It all boils down to the head coach.
     
  3. buffsyko

    buffsyko Club Member Club Member

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    The game was OVER. Toledo got tired of scoring and cu made it look somewhat respectable yipee. The defense is awful but early on,the offense pi$$ed away many chances to get td's, especially overthrowing 2 wide open td passes.

    It's a mess.
     
  4. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    The problem is talent... We don't have enough players yet.
     
  5. buffs04

    buffs04 Well-Known Member

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    The offense is horrible.

    Hawkins is definitely a problem. There is no debating it at this point.
     
  6. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    It is everything at this point. How can the head coach not be an issue when a team comes out completely flat every single week?
     
  7. SanDiegoBuff

    SanDiegoBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Ron Collins has been a roblem for 4 years. Hawkins hans't done anything about it. The buck stops at Hawkins.


    The buck stops at Hawkins for coaching failures.

    The buck stops at Hawkins for the lack of talent.

    The buck stops at Hawkins for the lack of preparation and execution.

    This game was over at half time. Don't let Cody carving up a prevent fool you into thinking there's something there.
     
  8. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    We don't have enough players to be competitive with Toledo? Good one.
     
  9. Buff fanatic

    Buff fanatic Well-Known Member

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    yeah, there is.
     
  10. mdelpizzo_1

    mdelpizzo_1 My Dixie Wrecked Club Member

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    Its year 4 now...Thats on the staff...I know **** hasn't worked out with so many of our top recruits, again on the staff.

    Cabral should be DC anyway, at least he has passion.
     
  11. Buff fanatic

    Buff fanatic Well-Known Member

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    IF the offense ever actually gets to do what they want, run the ****ing ball, we'd be fine. Could run and then get passes when its a good situation. Not HAVE to throw it 60 yards because qb draws are sure fire td's for our "defense".
     
  12. buffwings

    buffwings Club Member Club Member

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    Cabral for DC, but we need a fiery passionate HC too.
     
  13. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Seriously?

    It is not like Collins has all of a sudden just had issues. He has not been good for four years. Hawk has done nothing. That falls on him.

    Plus, as I mentioned above, the team just sleepwalks through games. How is that not on the head coach? Holy ****, I cannot believe anyone would argue that Hawk is not a problem at this point.:wow:
     
  14. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    Collins needs to go, as well as Brandison. On offense it really would have been awesome if Hawk hired someone to actually coach WRs, but I suppose he's doing a great job there. I honestly don't want to see Hawk get another go at it, though. Losing to CSU, Montana State, Toledo, his record vs the Big-12 N, his road record. It's all pathetic and absolutely deserves firing.
     
  15. Buff fanatic

    Buff fanatic Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I'm not. Its the fact that we cant ever establish our identity (running) because we're down before we blink (defense).
     
  16. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    It is what it is.. I didn't say that I'm excusing Hawk for it but the lack of talent right is such a glaring hole that it completely outshines our lack of coaching..

    This is the slowest CU team I have ever seen.. By far.
     
  17. SanDiegoBuff

    SanDiegoBuff Club Member Club Member

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    I admire your passion, but you're delusional. The offense ran the ball in the first half to the tune of 3 points. They ran the ball and weren't fine.
     
  18. buffsyko

    buffsyko Club Member Club Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: Yeah, stewart and simmons were on the sideline all night. Same secondary that finished first in pass defense. All these great lb's and God gifted OL and 4 awesome rb's but we have no talent.

    Good one jimmy.:thumbsup:
     
  19. buffs04

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    I get it, you are one of those people who would prop Hawkins up as a good coach if (or when) this team literally loses ever game it plays this year in an embarrassing fashion.

    If you can't see at this point that this man is a horrible coach then you never will.

    The only reason CU moved the ball in the second half is because garbage time started with 28 minutes left in the game.
     
  20. FlatironsBuff

    FlatironsBuff Club Member Club Member

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    The guy from Florida for HC, Bienimy for RB coach / Asst OC, Cabral for DC. hard assed CU lovin coaches who will do what it takes to make CU respectable again.
     
  21. BlackNGold

    BlackNGold Club Member Club Member

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    But whose fault is the lack of talent. Two weeks ago everyone was telling me the talent had been significantly upgraded. Toledo has more talent than CU? I don't believe it.
     
  22. Buff fanatic

    Buff fanatic Well-Known Member

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    Oh, Im not begging for an extension or anything. im saying, given what he was handed to by Barnett, the man is doing ALOT of good (outside of w-l's) Im old school in that regard and want wins/losses, if not, I'd cheer for Standford or some ****. Dont get me wrong. Im saying the man has ZERO chance to establish an offensive identity because of the ****ing defense. We can be a damn good run team if we ever get a chance. Collins needs to go, OR Hawk needs to go if he wont do it.
    As for coordinators, its not like he has a line waiting outside of Dal Ward for that one year bull**** job.
     
  23. buffsyko

    buffsyko Club Member Club Member

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    Stop blaming BARNETT, he's been gone for 3-4 years.
     
  24. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    Where are you getting this 1st in pass defense nonsense? In what?


    What great Lb's, what great OL?

    What are you guys seeing that I'm not?


    Just because Hawk had a couple of decent recruiting classes doesn't automatically mean we are just going to roll everyone. Most Top 25 programs aren't playing 4 underclassmen at the OL.. Our best LB is a former walk-on.. Our best WR is a former WR.. There is so many holes on this team its mind boggling.
     
  25. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Dude, the defense has been decent at times over the last four years. The offense has been consistently bad. To argue that the defense is the only thing holding us back now is just ignoring reality IMO. We pretty much suck across the board.
     
  26. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, the douchebag f$$ked our program's image where its made it almost impossible for Hawk to turn it around fast..


    Thanks for all the great 5th year SR and 4th year Juniors Barnett, asshat.
     
  27. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    The defense has been good at the beginning of the season.. It got considerably worse as the season went on (because lack of depth).
     
  28. Buff fanatic

    Buff fanatic Well-Known Member

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    Couldnt be further from the truth. I, probably more than anyone, demand wins. I'm a former college player and am RIDICULOUSLY competitive. I just have a different view of the job he took, Mac's start in year 4, and what the problem is. Our bitch's were get Scott the ball----check. Show some emotion----check. We didnt mention dont give up 700 ****ing yards of offense. Not sure the problem is Hawk. My 2 cents.
    Pretty easy to rip the coach. Maybe he needs to be. Not sure we're there yet. Well, you guys are. Not sure I am. But, same people whos solution is to sell their tickets and ****. So, just a different breed I suppose.
     
  29. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    This. But Hawk is still definitely to blame
     
  30. buffs04

    buffs04 Well-Known Member

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    Hawkins has had four recruiting classes to get his players in here and he hasn't.

    If this team has worse talent than CSU and Toledo (LAUGHABLE and NOT TRUE) then that is his fault.

    I have a question for you: How do you think recruiting is going to go this year? How do you think it will go for the remainder of Hawkins' tenure?
     

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