Wait for 16 for the big man. I think 15 will be about shooters/wings, leaving a spot ready-made for Davis in 2016.I hope we have 3 openings. I really think we need to land another 5. Scott could very well be gone by then.
Tad got Tory Miller for that reason IMO. I would be willing to bet the staff is putting everything they've got into De'Ron Davis. I think we have a really good shot at him, and he is a program changer for sure. Could be Tad's first 5 star recruit.I hope we have 3 openings. I really think we need to land another 5. Scott could very well be gone by then.
I don't see him anywhere in the forum. Why do you think we are after him and that he is interested?Tad got Tory Miller for that reason IMO. I would be willing to bet the staff is putting everything they've got into De'Ron Davis. I think we have a really good shot at him, and he is a program changer for sure. Could be Tad's first 5 star recruit.
I don't see him anywhere in the forum. Why do you think we are after him and that he is interested?
I don't see him anywhere in the forum. Why do you think we are after him and that he is interested?
http://www.allbuffs.com/showthread.php/77099-16-CO-PF-De-Ron-DavisI don't see him anywhere in the forum. Why do you think we are after him and that he is interested?
Tad got Tory Miller for that reason IMO. I would be willing to bet the staff is putting everything they've got into De'Ron Davis. I think we have a really good shot at him, and he is a program changer for sure. Could be Tad's first 5 star recruit.
Misleading thread title. I anticipated a discussion on DBT's menstruation.
I don't see him anywhere in the forum. Why do you think we are after him and that he is interested?
I'm happy that we were able to land Tory. But without a big in the '15 class, our roster may look something like this...
1) Hopkins 6-5 JR / Collier 6-2 SOPH / Talton 6-2 SR
2) King 6-5 JR / Stalzer 6-3 SR / Pflueger 6-5 FR*
3) Johnson 6-6 SR / Fletcher 6-6 JR
4) Thomas 6-8 JR/ Miller 6-8 SOPH / Boatwright 6-8 FR*
5) Gordon 6-9 JR
*denotes potential freshman recruit
Looking pretty thin on the front line if you asked me. And I know the argument of Tad wanting players that can run the floor, but there is something to be said for a couple 6'10+ big men on your team. Even if you slid Miller down to the 5, that doesn't leave us with much height. Also, who knows, maybe Scott will want to stay all 4 years. Maybe he will want to leave a legacy bigger than jumping early for the draft. But I am hoping our team looks like this if Scott leaves.
1) Hopkins 6-5 JR / Collier 6-2 SOPH / Talton 6-2 SR
2) King 6-5 JR / Stalzer 6-3 SR / Pflueger 6-5 FR*
3) Johnson 6-6 SR / Fletcher 6-6 JR
4) Thomas 6-8 JR / Miller 6-8 SOPH
5) Gordon 6-9 JR / Comanche 6-10 FR*
That gives us some height to develop. Then when '16-'17 rolls around, it'll look something like.
1) Hopkins 6-5 SR / Collier 6-2 JR / (recruit)
2) King 6-5 SR / Pflueger 6-5 SO
3) Fletcher 6-6 SR / (recruit) / (recruit)
4) Thomas 6-8 SR / Miller 6-8 JR / Davis 6'9 FR
5) Gordon 6-9 JR / Comanche 6-10 SO
Misleading thread title. Thought DBT was finally settling in with his menstruation schedule.
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I do think we'll have Scott back next year simply because he'll need at least another year to put on enough weight to play the 4 in the NBA and possibly two years if you believe his face-up game needs to extend beyond 17 feet.
But I'm starting to come around to the idea we may need to focus more heavily on true centers because of the rule changes that make it harder to guard the ball. That's easier said than done, though. Rivals had an update on Comanche after his NC State visit last week and the only official visit he said he intended to set up in the PAC was at Oregon with unofficials to ASU of UofA. No mention of us.
I think that we need to primarily focus on recruiting some height. I know how most want 6'8-6'9 kids who can run the floor, but I think it is essential to have at least two that are 6'10+. Or at the minimum one that can be a solid contribution to our team. I don't even think we need a "true center", just some height.
I don't think there's any chance Scott will leave for the NBA early. He has a shot at playing in the league someday as do a few other guys on the team, but none look like early lottery picks, or even draftees at this point. Some of the frosh could develop that way perhaps. Perhaps.
No one's going to disagree with you in terms of wanting guys who are 6'10" or above who still have good feet and can get up the court.
Problem is, there aren't very many of those guys in the NBA. There are very few of them in college. For the most part, those guys end up at the elite programs. Below that, you're often recruiting plodders if you want that type of size. I'm not a big fan of bringing in plodders. We play man defense with a lot of switching. We excel in transition offense. I'd rather play Tad's style with 5 guys who are 6'8" or less than put such a premium on height that we are forced to play a half court style with zone defense. This is the tradeoff. Bzdelik was going to take us that direction with a bunch of plodding shooters and hide them in a zone. But even he saw that wouldn't work at our level of competition and shifted focus to guys like Sharpe and Burks, then Dre.
No one's going to disagree with you in terms of wanting guys who are 6'10" or above who still have good feet and can get up the court.
Problem is, there aren't very many of those guys in the NBA. There are very few of them in college. For the most part, those guys end up at the elite programs. Below that, you're often recruiting plodders if you want that type of size. I'm not a big fan of bringing in plodders. We play man defense with a lot of switching. We excel in transition offense. I'd rather play Tad's style with 5 guys who are 6'8" or less than put such a premium on height that we are forced to play a half court style with zone defense. This is the tradeoff. Bzdelik was going to take us that direction with a bunch of plodding shooters and hide them in a zone. But even he saw that wouldn't work at our level of competition and shifted focus to guys like Sharpe and Burks, then Dre.
C'mon now DBT finished menopause when Fairbanks was a good coach
Tad got Tory Miller for that reason IMO. I would be willing to bet the staff is putting everything they've got into De'Ron Davis. I think we have a really good shot at him, and he is a program changer for sure. Could be Tad's first 5 star recruit.
I'm leaning toward Scott staying 4 years but saying there's no chance is a bit extreme. His mid range game & FT shooting are excellent for his position.
Got to disagree with his mid range game. He's scoring at around a 62% clip when he takes shots around the basket (dunks, lay ups, tip ins), and 32% everything else. He definitely has the capacity to be a good mid range shooter (KU game should be strong evidence of this), but he is not there yet.
Is my addiction to hoop-math rubbing off ? :nod:
Scott is an interesting case study - I think it comes down to - is he athletic enough? He struggles when he tries to hedge on the p&r and get back to his man, also can he dunk? I joke, but his hops are.....lacking
Is my addiction to hoop-math rubbing off ? :nod:
Scott is an interesting case study - I think it comes down to - is he athletic enough? He struggles when he tries to hedge on the p&r and get back to his man, also can he dunk? I joke, but his hops are.....lacking
In terms of the player he models himself after, Tim Duncan, he's athletic enough to be that type of player. He'll never be Duncan but he doesn't need more athleticism to be an efficient post player. For a big who shoots 80% from the FT line, I love his mid-range ability. Few bigs have his ceiling in terms of mid-range shooting, just needs to tap into it more & refine it. Whether he's a 3 or 4 year player will come down to how much & how quickly he builds on his low-post repertoire. I want to see more skill out of him around the semi circle.