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Pac-12 expansion is now inevitable

Yes, but UT is looking for a conference that allows it to have its own revenue deal rather than be an equal partner. Any more, given academics and revenue splits, I think that UT would join the ACC with Notre Dame if it ever had to leave for a new conference. Until that day, it prefers to be in a conference it can dominate. Frankly, they could replace Oklahoma with Cincinnati in the Big 12 (10) and it wouldn't impact UT's ability to qualify for the football playoff, appear on national tv, make more money than just about any other school, and run its other athletics programs at one of the highest levels.

I think we should forget about UT.

But, yeah, Houston + Oklahoma would be the best possible scenario for a Pac-14.
I wish we could but the pressure is being applied on Scott to increase revenues to try and compete with the SEC and Big-10 so Texas is likely to never go away until they join another conference. If OU leaves that fanbase would go crazy being stuck in a conference like that.
 
Houston? SMU? TCU?? What the ****?

As a fan I have no interest in any B12 teams except for, maybe, Oklahoma. And I don't even know why I'd like them around except for keeping the high level of competition. Just say no to Texas (schools)
 
The Pac-12 would have a team further east than an SEC team if this becomes reality.
 
I know some will cringe at the thought, but I'd love the Pac 12 to add CSU. They don't really add anything to the conference that it doesn't already have, so unlikely to happen unless is was to prevent another P5 conference from gaining a school in the mountain region, but still like the idea.

It would give us a more natural rival and travel partner than Utah, up the level of football interest in the state, and we'd get to play them every year without having to use a non-conference game to do it.

Houston, Oklahoma, CSU, and BYU would be my ideal adds. Kansas, UNLV, and New Mexico as alternatives.
 
I know some will cringe at the thought, but I'd love the Pac 12 to add CSU. They don't really add anything to the conference that it doesn't already have, so unlikely to happen unless is was to prevent another P5 conference from gaining a school in the mountain region, but still like the idea.

It would give us a more natural rival and travel partner than Utah, up the level of football interest in the state, and we'd get to play them every year without having to use a non-conference game to do it.

Houston, Oklahoma, CSU, and BYU would be my ideal adds. Kansas, UNLV, and New Mexico as alternatives.
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people, people, people. UH is putting the pressure on the B12. The guy asked for an introductor meeting with Larry Scott and got it. And then he "leaks" that info right before the Big12 is going to discuss expansion.

I see no real news here.

Except that Scott also talked to Houston & Kansas at the time of the expansion to Pac-12 when he was looking to make it 16 and 1st pick aTm had already bolted for SEC & he needed a replacement.
 
I like the idea of Houston and TCU. Throw in OU and OSU for the inevitable 16 team alignment and I think that's ideal for the P16.
 
Let's expand to Canada!
The UBC Thunderbirds, Alberta Golden Bears and Calgary Dinos are perfect for the Pac-12. No excuses, make it happen!:D upload_2016-7-18_16-4-5.png
 
houston, kansas, ou, and okie state... to go to 16.

that would be interesting...

we'd be moved to an eastern division with utah and then we'd need two more from uo/osu, asu/ua, wash/wsu, i would guess.

stan/cal, usc/ucla would be locks to stay together in a western division, i think.

not my first choice, but it feels like a train coming our way.
 
houston, kansas, ou, and okie state... to go to 16.

that would be interesting...

we'd be moved to an eastern division with utah and then we'd need two more from uo/osu, asu/ua, wash/wsu, i would guess.

stan/cal, usc/ucla would be locks to stay together in a western division, i think.

not my first choice, but it feels like a train coming our way.
We'd just need UA/ASU to form an East/West, not two more pairs. Besides, the 4, 4 team pods system sounds much better.
 
yes, sorry, i meant 2 teams, not 2 pairs. i am not sure who they'd drop in with us from those 3 pairs...
 
If Houston requested the meeting then there is probably nothing to see here, or Scott is trying to find out what the Big-12 plans to do and if they are going to invade Pac-12 TV markets with BYU.
 
yes, sorry, i meant 2 teams, not 2 pairs. i am not sure who they'd drop in with us from those 3 pairs...

If East/West, the original Pac-8 will stay together.

If pods, CA/ Northwest/ Mountain and then a new group of 4 we can call the Southwest.
 
If East/West, the original Pac-8 will stay together.

If pods, CA/ Northwest/ Mountain and then a new group of 4 we can call the Southwest.

you think the pod thing is politically viable? i am not sure.

i think the best we can hope for is to get 2 of original p8 every year.

who knows? there would be a lot of potential strength in both of those divisions but the west certainly would appear to be much stronger overall.
 
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you think the pod thing is politically viable? i am not sure.

i think the best we can hope for is to get 2 of original p8 every year.

who knows? there would be a lot of potential strength in both of those divisions but the west certainly would appear to be much stronger overall.

You'd need to find a solution that preserves the new Western division's presence in California. Under the current scheduling format, we're guaranteed 3 games in California over 2 years.
 
Possible us and Utah become a part of the North and the new team take our spot in the south instead of east and west divisions.
 
Possible us and Utah become a part of the North and the new team take our spot in the south instead of east and west divisions.

that presumes we only go to p14 right? if we go to 16, then how do you put a pair of ku/houston or ou/osu in the north?
 
that presumes we only go to p14 right? if we go to 16, then how do you put a pair of ku/houston or ou/osu in the north?
Do the math. South is 6-2=4.
Move to the north makes the north 6+2=8
Now the south is at 4 taking 4 new teams is 4+4=8.
Now 8+8=16.
 
Never gonna put Los Angeles and Texas into one side of the conference. Overloads it.

Plus, California teams are not going to agree to a format where they only play each other once every four years.

The only scheduling format that satisfies everyone is pods.

3 games against your own pod every year (maintaining the California scheduling for those 4 teams which they demand).

2 games against every other pod each year (meaning a trip to each region of the conference geography each year for everyone which all teams demand).

I don't see any other format that makes a 16-team Pac work because we're not going to an 11-game conference schedule.
 
Never gonna put Los Angeles and Texas into one side of the conference. Overloads it.

Plus, California teams are not going to agree to a format where they only play each other once every four years.

The only scheduling format that satisfies everyone is pods.

3 games against your own pod every year (maintaining the California scheduling for those 4 teams which they demand).

2 games against every other pod each year (meaning a trip to each region of the conference geography each year for everyone which all teams demand).

I don't see any other format that makes a 16-team Pac work because we're not going to an 11-game conference schedule.

I guess the key for us is having at least one guaranteed CA game a year, right? As long as we have at least one guaranteed we're ok and the pros (mo money!) outweigh the cons (losing some presence in CA)?
 
I guess the key for us is having at least one guaranteed CA game a year, right? As long as we have at least one guaranteed we're ok and the pros (mo money!) outweigh the cons (losing some presence in CA)?

Yep.
 
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