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QB choice?
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ahoelsken
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Substantively better in the sense that first downs would not be significant accomplishments for this team with him under center?
That should be obvious.
Is there anybody on here who would not start JT with McCown as the backup?
Lewis needs a step back.
Guys - I don't think we have consensus here. Don't you think we should give it a few more games to play out?
You have a guy who when he was recruited everyone knew needed time to develop and mature but because fans who aren't they watching everyday are frustrated they know more than anyone else. Yea, let's just roll a kid who was playing HS ball out there to spend his time getting up after getting blasted over and over. Really good way to teach a kid to go through his progressions and make quality decisions. And putting an inexperienced QB behind a tissue paper OL with no running attack is a great way to develop confidence.They wont ruin him. He is a QB, from a family of QBs.
How do we know he is not ready? Because this staff says so?
I don't think playing in this offense would be good for a freshman QB if his last name were Manning.
But fine, let's just keep throwing QBs out there to get destroyed. By the way were you one of the ones who a couple years ago was insisting that Lewis had to play?
Agree with you and Duff, There are ways to get a young QB on field experience without exposing him to the beating that is involved in just "throwing him out there to see what he's got."
Considering their incompetence at everything else do we think this staff would manage that well?
It will not matter
ahoelsken
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Exactly. I'd rather lose 45-28 and watch Shrout throw 4 TDs and 3 picks a game than watch what I saw on Friday.
This is about this staff understanding that their management of the QB position is an utter failure and trying something else.
Shrout is gone after this year, but I assume Lewis is as well. I can’t imagine him coming back after the heat he will take from the fans for Karl this year.
This is where you really want a new offensive minded HC to bring in a transfer QB and set up McCown for success
This is where you really want a new offensive minded HC to bring in a transfer QB and set up McCown for success
I was just thinking about that. I wonder if the new transfer rules change the calculus on coaching hires for programs like Colorado. Find the best non-P5 frosh or soph QB out there, and try to hire his coach.
If that happens, it has to be some kind of a first. How bad of a HC do you have to be to chase away your first and second string QB's?
Oh actually just checked and says he’s a junior on the roster. I thought this was his last year. In that case he should be back, nvm
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It's not easy to keep up with these days.
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Dorrell really likes to defend Lewis while bringing up negatives about shrout unprovoked… even Brian and Adam addressed it.
Is it nepotism? Can someone do a 23andme/Ancestry deep dive to see if there’s a family connection between Lewis and Karl? Lol
Is it nepotism? Can someone do a 23andme/Ancestry deep dive to see if there’s a family connection between Lewis and Karl? Lol
I would love to have McCown play, but do not want to burn that RS in a year where the coach is going to be tossed
ahoelsken
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Lewis I think you're right on. Just a guess, but he'll go back to some G5 in TX and finish there. Who knows what Shrout's going to do? I could see him staying here, but if he goes-that's why a coaching search has to start with Blake Anderson and Ricky Rahne IMO.
Holy sh*t Ricky rahne was born in Morrison! Hope he has a house here
ahoelsken
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He can play up to four games and still keep the RS. If you play him this year, I think you really want to start that process off at Folsom. Still need to set the young man up to be successful, and starting him in either of these next two games I don't think does that for a couple of reasons-They're both road games, and they are probably the two hardest environments CU will play in this year. I'd make McCown the backup to Shrout, but give him a three game run in October. Maybe give him that first start against Cal, the Oregon State game to see how he handles a road environment, and then Arizona State.
ahoelsken
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Doubt it lol.
Getting a chance to turn around the flagship institution's football program in his home state could be very appealing to the guy though.
James Franklin coaching tree. Intriguing
I agree. They didn't do Lewis any favors last year. For all we know he was ruined from it, but I guess someone had to be back there and get demolished.
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cu3x
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A lot of this loss is on the coaches, particulary the D coaches. We played a great 1st half and then, like so many times last year, changed nothing for the 2nd half. Their coaches made adjustments, spread the field, rushed us a new A-hole.
The O sucked too.
Absent Klatt watching the game, I see Barnett as the most authoritative, informed - and loving - critic of the Buffs. When JS threw the bad ball, GB immediately said, "that's his problem" and noted that at TN, and at practice here, he thinks he can complete evey pass and will throw into coverage all day. I'm guess KD does a balance.
There is no doubt, Lewis plays nervous.
The O sucked too.
Absent Klatt watching the game, I see Barnett as the most authoritative, informed - and loving - critic of the Buffs. When JS threw the bad ball, GB immediately said, "that's his problem" and noted that at TN, and at practice here, he thinks he can complete evey pass and will throw into coverage all day. I'm guess KD does a balance.
There is no doubt, Lewis plays nervous.
Disluke. Lewis is playing as well as he can. Dude showed a lot of heart in some of his runs last year. But to this point, he just hasn’t shown the ability to play well enough. I don’t think it’s a motivation issue like you suggest.
To clarify: Blew plays with no sense of urgency, as though the job is his for good. That is what I meant. Maybe we're seeing the same thing with 2 different takes on it.
No wonder KD loves him. It's how he coaches.
Fair. My perspective is that he plays tentatively, afraid to make a mistake, which I think was erroneously coached into him last year. And it appears that is still an issue for him this year.
That could be a more correct way to see it and takes into account his hesitance last year when it looked like there were plays to be made. Appreciate your post on this. The kid is in a difficult situation, as is Shrout.
Add to this that line play has been so poor that he rarely has had the opportunity to reach the decision point without being under pressure. He is looking like a guy who even when not under pressure is anticipating it instead of just playing.