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Rivalries Out West

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  1. NashBuff

    NashBuff CSU Knob-Slobberer

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    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9...n-seattle-seahawks-talk-ex-coach-jim-harbaugh

    I'm sure a good number of CU fans on this board do recall the Seattle Seahawks being in the AFC West when there were five teams which includes the four teams of the current AFC West division in the NFL. The Seahawks switched back to the NFC West starting with the 2002 season and now it seems like a rivalry is brewing between the Seahawks and 49ers.

    Given that we had the Corndogs as our rivals for years even if they denied its very existence which is one of the requirements for having a rivalry...those kNowledge boys should know better. :nod: But now with the move to the Pac-12, we are starting over again in the rivalry department. So far it appears that there is one developing between the Mildcats of Tucson and the Buffs of Boulder on the hardwood and time will tell if that spills over onto the gridiron. Given how the Pac-12 is set up, chances are good that the Yewts of Salt Lake City and Asphalt Devils of Tempe will be CU's rivals in addition to the Mildcats.

    Would the NFC and AFC West be good examples to follow since the teams except for the Chiefs and Rams fall within the Pac-12 footprint?
     
  2. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    No mention of the Raiders? There are two teams in the bay area. I see a rivalry with Cal developing. It will never be Cal/Stanford but I can see the seedlings of a rivalry.

    I've actually witnessed a Cal fan punch a little girl in section 2 the year we played them out of conference even though we were in the Pac-12.
     
  3. cmgoods

    cmgoods Olympic Sports Mod Club Member

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    I think Utah will end up being one considering the last conference game in most of our sports will almost always be against them.
     
  4. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Until something is on the line, we'll never have real Pac-12 rivalries in football. You don't develop rivalries when you're 1-11.
     
  5. cmgoods

    cmgoods Olympic Sports Mod Club Member

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    That's where I think Utah steps in. When something is on the line, we'll always be looking at the Utah game.
     
  6. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    i hate them all. but, with a respectful hate, mostly, unlike our former b12 brethren, who i just hated.
     
  7. CUFan

    CUFan Welcome back Club Member

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    This.
     
  8. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    Hate Stanford? Why bother?

    I don't hate anybody in the PAC 12. I'm too embarrassed to hate.


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  9. boydbuff

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    I was kind of hoping we'd start a series with SJSU. That would be a good rivalry.
     
  10. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    You do when it's your last chance to win a home game, and you get it pulled away from your fingers on a KO return.
     
  11. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    Paging Mr. Flukes. Mr. Liver Flukes, please pick up the white courtesy telephone.
     
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    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    No, you don't. You seriously think Buff fans in 2027 are being to be saying "Hated those ****ers ever since '12, cost us a 2 win season that year".

    Let me answer that: No.

    Irrelevant.
     
  13. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    Pretty sure the last two games have had serious implications on them.
     
  14. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    If we win that game then Embree probably doesn't get fired, so we'd actually be pissed if we won that game :lol:

    Hell, I was hoping we lost that game just so there was the increased chance that Embree would be fired.

    /bad fan
     
  15. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    Didn't Bohn get asked during the pressed, "If they beat Utah in the last game would Jon still be coach?" And I'm pretty sure mike said that it was decided before Utah.
     
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    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Post-diction doesn't help here. At the time whether he would be fired or not was completely unknown to most of the fanbase.
     
  17. CVilleBuff

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    By your argument, Utah did us a major favor and should be forever in the hearts of Buff fans.

    A rivalry needs that signature moment that builds hatred. There's just no way that anything about 2012 built a rivalry, and the Buffs upset in 2011 disrupting their P12CG appearance doesn't seem to have done much, either. Are you really sitting here trying to tell me that you've got Utah circled and hate their guts more than any college football program due to them costing us a 2-10 season? Maybe you do, but that would make you the only Buff fan that hates Utah at the moment. It's like when their ****** basketball team beat on our locker room and tried to disrupt our halftime preparations during the game at the Keg, and played the game of their lives and still barely fended off the Buffs in SLC. Disappointing, a little annoying, but in the long term who cares or will even remember that?
     
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    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    Kind of like Kansas.
     
  19. NashBuff

    NashBuff CSU Knob-Slobberer

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    I want to beat Cal badly...that first game with them after we announced the move was embarrassing and we let the last game with them slip away. I will be disappointed if we don't beat Cal before we rotate back to Stanford.

    It's hard to create excitement when you suck but it doesn't prevent rivalries from forming.

    That is something I'm still getting used to.

    We cost Utah a trip to the Pac-12 CCG in 2011 and they return the favor the following season by preventing us from winning even one home game last season.
     
  20. NashBuff

    NashBuff CSU Knob-Slobberer

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    That signature moment for the CU-Utah game happened in 2011 when we beat them in SLC and cost them a spot in the Pac-12 CCG. Utah's program hasn't been the same...not much different from the 62-36 whupping we put on the Corn in 2001 and they haven't won a conference title since. You are kidding me if Utah fans have forgotten that game and perhaps will be up for the CU game in SLC this year.
     
  21. CarolinaBuff

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    I think it'll just take time to develop a rival in this conference. Utah will be the likely choice and they'll probably develop into our natural rival, and of course USC will always be one simply because of how prominent their program is. Plus it helps that we play USC every year.
     
  22. NashBuff

    NashBuff CSU Knob-Slobberer

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    That too. I wouldn't count out both Arizona schools although one doesn't seem to be developing between the Sun Devils and Buffs unless I'm mistaken.
     
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    I know that I hate Cal, ASU, UW, and Kiffin. But I would agree that rivalries are formed when there are bowl games, title game appearances,etc on the line and us keeping Utah from the first Pac-12 Championship had to be devastating for there fan base. So I would like to see those games get more intense and I would like to see Mac2.0 use USC like Coach Mac did with Nebraska because it would be nice to beat those pretty boys!
     
  24. CVilleBuff

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    That's a pathetic signature moment. A **** 2 win CU team versus a mediocre Utah team that was only in contention for the CG due to a wacky scenario. Utah fans were disappointed. They aren't marking their calendars and seething with hatred for CU. They hate BYU, and that's not going to change whether they play them or not. Giving CU/Utah some generic rivalry name doesn't mean anything. Virginia and Florida State play for a trophy, and also had a signature moment far beyond anything comparable (Warrick Dunn being stopped at the goal line). Doesn't mean it's a rivalry.

    The only hint of rivalry forming thus far is against Arizona in basketball. Remains to be seen whether it grows into one, essentially because it remains to be seen if CU can put together a decade of successful basketball so the games can continue to have high stakes.
     
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    Rivalries with losing teams are nothing more than consolation games. True rivalries are among teams who consistently play at a high caliber.
     
  26. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    You serious Clark?
     
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    I'd argue both Arizona schools in basketball....I think part of it is having player(s) or coaches on the other team you really don't like. For me, Bachynski quickly fell into that category during our two games with ASU last year. Football? Can we beat CSU and Central Arkansas first before we have this conversation?
     
  28. buffedup

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    Not really a strong parallel, but I get your point. The moral of the story is don't **** with Colorado. If you do, there will come a time when you think you have it made and the Buffs will knock you into full retard for years with a hay maker that you never saw coming.
     
  29. BuffSurveyor

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    Interesting post! You can't "create" rivals, they happen when both teams are good and each have intense fans. Going 1-11 is not going to cut the mustard. The teams you mention won't look at the Buffs as rivals until CU's W/L record improves. Same as most Nebraska fans saw Colorado for many many years.
    I might add you need some work creating names for your future rivals. Mildcats, Yewts and Asphalt Devils? I'll give you a "C-" for effort.
     
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