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This should make you mad. What is SI's beef with CU?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Wyo Buff, May 13, 2011.

  1. Wyo Buff

    Wyo Buff Club Member Club Member

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  2. CUFan

    CUFan Welcome back Club Member

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    Rick Reilly
     
  3. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    I blame Dick Reilly
     
  4. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    stewart mandel is not a believer. Prove him wrong is all Embree can do.

    Also, Mandel graded the Hawk hire as an A. So I consider this good news.
     
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  5. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

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    Mad at whom? CU? or SI?
     
  6. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    Bah - I'm not angry about that. The hire, for those who haven't taken a little time to digest it and listen to Embree, should be a head scratcher. I care a lot more about what they will say about the hire in another 5 years than I care about what they say about it now. Remember, Hawk was a "home run" hire. That turned out great.
     
  7. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    Yep. If Embree is as much of a failure as Hawk was a home run then I think we will all be happy.
     
  8. Wyo Buff

    Wyo Buff Club Member Club Member

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    I think you know where I fall on the "whom." I guess I don't see a uniform standard here given the fact the Stanford guy is a "Homer" and they gave him an A. Why? Because he was Harbaugh's coordinator? Do you really think Harbaugh let someone else run the O? That said, I am an unabashed "homer" myself and have no objectivity when it comes to my belief and expectations regarding Embo's tenure. Next year will be rough but it will get progressively better after that. I expect a 8-10 win season in year 2 following another 4-5 win season next year. In year-3 I believe we will contend for the P12 South.

    So, Frank, to answer you question directly, . . . I say FU SI!!!
     
  9. Creebuzz

    Creebuzz Club Member Club Member

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    I'd frame that SI slide and put it on my wall if I were Embree.
     
  10. BuffaloSoldier76

    BuffaloSoldier76 Unsound Meat Club Member

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    It isn't a totally invalid take. We all want to get behind Coach Embree, and we should, but the other coaches on that list have either extensive head coaching experience or big time collegiate coordinator jobs. CU hired a position coach from the NFL to be its head football coach. Now, I know it isn't that simple to us, but on the national level that is how it is viewed. Embree having gone to CU only makes the situation worse to the national perspective if people view it as nobody else wanted the job so they had to hire one of their own.

    Like I say, it isn't that simple, and I truly hope that Coach Embree has the greatest of success to prove SI wrong on this. However when you look solely at the resumes of the new head coaches on the BCS level, frankly Coach Embree's is the weakest of the bunch.
     
  11. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    tend to agree here. though, do seem a little harsh. the "A" hires seem suspect to me. anybody but Bear Bryant or Darrel Royal to Indiana can't be an A.

    from a national perspective, JE is not well known. and, i'm cautiously optimistic but i don't think it's a "done deal" we are gonna be a perennial top 10 type team for a significant run....
     
  12. Wyo Buff

    Wyo Buff Club Member Club Member

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    I agree. He won't have Adrian Peterson or Sam Bradford at Indiana.
     
  13. Rraalph 3000

    Rraalph 3000 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly...Pretty much the equivalent that saying every 5* recruit is a sure-fire NFL candidate, simply by what they've done with their previous squad... :rolling_eyes:
     
  14. Buffarino

    Buffarino Math - how does it work? Club Member

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    Taken by itself in a vacuum, I would agree. But when you compare it to the Stanford hire which they grade at an A, despite the fact that he's only 38 and also has no head coaching experience, that invalidates much of what they say, IMO.

    But at the end of the day, it's up to Embo to get out there and win games.
     
  15. btbuff

    btbuff It's an inside joke Club Member

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    Just have to prove them wrong.
     
  16. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Hard to give much credibility to the man who thought the Rich Rodriguez and Dan Hawkins hires were brilliant. He's a frontrunner. Opinion is on the level of an average fan's, not an insider.

    fwiw, Coordinator experience is absolutely not correlated with success as a head coach. Especially offensive or defensive coordinator. Special Teams Coordinator is actually a better training background because the guy works with the entire team. I'll take Embree's background of having coached offense (different positions and passing game coordinator), special teams (including kickers as a position coach) and defense over that of many coordinators. Plus, he's also started and run a charitable booster donor organization connected to the CU football program so he's got important experience in that area where a lot of new HCs get bogged down.
     
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    we should save the link and bash the hell out of him in 3 years.
     
  18. azbuff

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    I agree that Embo has a lot to prove, but I'd hire him over a lot of coaches on that list. Jerry Kill? Who the **** is that?
     
  19. Wyo Buff

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    At least our coach doesn't look like the "before" picture in a Rosatia commercial.
     
  20. Bone Buff

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    I frankly don't care. Judging a coaching hire before a single game's been played is stupid.
     
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    Off-topic, but this is my ****** Thread anyway. . . . . . Tatanka, why do you have your name trademarked and did your patent attorney really think that is defensible? (See, I told you guys I am Snarky)
     
  23. leftybuff

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    Not sure but he may be related to this guy....

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  24. buffedup

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    I could care less. Embree has exceeded my expectations so far since he has been here...which doesn't mean a lot until they start playing games.
     
  25. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    **** mandel!

    i am fine with folks questioning the hire for all the reasons that have been regurgitated, but, compared to some of those other 10 hires, i have a hard time believing that embree is the worst one. that guy at stanford is no magic-maker.

    assholes.
     
  26. sackman

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    I have a hard time getting angry about what some random columnist writes about a coaching hire six months before the guy's first game.
     
  27. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    i wasn't angry until i opened the link. he's got embree listed 11th out of 11. therefore, he must be castigated. it is the natural order of the innerwebz. try to keep up.

    :lol:
     
  28. chipwich

    chipwich Administrator Club Member Junta Member

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    I give Mandel an "F". So there.
     
  29. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    fify
     
  30. Quattro

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    Good that means Embree will be a home run hire.
     

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