Greg Robinson, John Mackovic, Chuck Fairbanks, Lane Kiffin... Hell, the college football landscape is littered with NFL washouts.
Oh, here's another one - Steve Fairchild.
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What would you guys think of Mike Nolan at CU?
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Greg Robinson, John Mackovic, Chuck Fairbanks, Lane Kiffin... Hell, the college football landscape is littered with NFL washouts.
Oh, here's another one - Steve Fairchild.
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I agree that NFL and college do not translate well, but I disagree that he was fired/resigned from the Broncos due to him stubbornly not making adjustments. Our Dline play really started to suck, and our team overall just seemed tired. I think McD is way in over his head and is SOOO in control of the entire team that when Nolan and him didn't see eye to eye...it was time to move on.
But whatever. To get back on topic, even though the NFL doesn't translate well to college, I'd take the best candidate overall regardless of where they're coming from. Mike Nolan does want to become a HC again in the NFL, and him taking the CU job would be a demotion - sort of like a movie star accepting a television role. The NFL has more money and presitge than the vast majority of college positions out there. Nolan has lots of experience and knows how to coach, but can he recruit? Did he hire a great staff in SF? I don't know him personally to know if he can recruit, but I don't think his SF staff was that amazing. I'd be interested in Nolan, but not convinced he's the best candidate out there.
I do like that if we did hire him, it would be big national news for a day. There are a lot of NFL coaches that would pique my interest though.
IMO, all these "perspective coach" threads need to have a poll as the first post, "Would you take coach x, yes or no"
Anyway, The Niners were pretty much a disaster under him, but I don't know how much of that is on him, cause sure as hell, Mike Singletary isn't doing any better.
Also, you know else who was a NFL washup? Pete Carroll. Take that as you will.
Anyway, The Niners were pretty much a disaster under him, but I don't know how much of that is on him, cause sure as hell, Mike Singletary isn't doing any better.
Also, you know else who was a NFL washup? Pete Carroll. Take that as you will.
The good offenses in the pros most certainly are NOT vanilla. They are incredibly complex and it is the reason many offensive minded pro coaches have struggled in the college game. Watch a good offense and try to figure out how many formations that team runs in a given game, you will quickly figure out "standard" formations just do not exist.
Nolan quit before he could be fired because he and McDaniels differed greatly on McDaniels' role in defensive gameplanning. McDaniels wanted a bigger role and Nolan wanted more autonomy. There were certainly other issues, but that was the main one.
The rift supposedly started after the Colts game. McDaniels disagreed with a call, and wanted more say in game-planning. Nolan wasn't going to have any of that.
At least that's the story I heard.
Well for one, can we not let my Dolphins have a good DC for awhile?
I like Nolan, but his time in San Fran was pretty bad if I recall correctly. I don't hate him as a candidate, can you imagine his defense vs college QBs? That being said, I would rather we went after Jim Mora Jr. He just strikes me as the type of guy that would have a blast in college, even if he does someday want to get back to the NFL. Nolan seems like he graduated from the college game long ago and will be in the NFL until he retires.
I like Nolan, but his time in San Fran was pretty bad if I recall correctly. I don't hate him as a candidate, can you imagine his defense vs college QBs? That being said, I would rather we went after Jim Mora Jr. He just strikes me as the type of guy that would have a blast in college, even if he does someday want to get back to the NFL. Nolan seems like he graduated from the college game long ago and will be in the NFL until he retires.
Mora Sr was an assistant here if I remember correctly.
Haven't they learned their lesson on stealing our coaches?
You are right though, I feel bad for the guy for having stuck with the Seahawks over the Huskies and then gets fired after one year anyway. Either way, while I'd like to hire the next Joe Pa, we have to assume most of the people we will want to hire went to school elsewhere, or are from another part of the country. There will always be some bigger better school out there. Hell didn't Hawk say his dream job was ND? I'm sure most coaches are like that.
Things like that is why I am convinced McHoodie will not succeed in Denver. He had a very strong defense (which was held together by duct tape and bailing wire) and solid DC and he didn't trust Nolan enough to let him do his job.
I also heard McBonaparte thought Nolan blitzed too much and wanted him to dial it back. Now he has his yes man and the defense sucks. Bravo, Josh. Bravo. You now have the 25th ranked scoring defense in the NFL. That's not gonna win you many games. They were the #12 scoring defense last year.
That's a great point.
NFL offensive guys struggle with having a complex playbook and then realizing that college kids only have 20 hours a week to spend on football along with other responsibilities as a student. Guys like Weis and Callahan will always look like great hires, continue to get big time college jobs, and continue to fail at them. NFL defensive and special teams coordinators are much more interesting to me for college jobs.