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Jim Leavitt hired as new Colorado DC

Speed is coachable/trainable to a degree. It's all relative, though. CU doesn't train in a vacuum. All the other P12 programs are training just like we are. The fast teams are the ones that recruited the most fast guys.
 
Speed is coachable/trainable to a degree. It's all relative, though. CU doesn't train in a vacuum. All the other P12 programs are training just like we are. The fast teams are the ones that recruited the most fast guys.

I wish our guys prepared for the season like they prepare for the combine.
 
I wish our guys prepared for the season like they prepare for the combine.

I agree on effort. I disagree on focus. Overall fitness can be forecasted by how many times they put up 225, but I've liked the results of the strength program so far. It seems like less guys are not available on Saturdays. Of course I was surprised to see two critical running backs not available to spring. So maybe my ignorance of injuries is coloring my perspective.
 
Yeah, Old school remains old school: "Y'all cain't teach/coach speed!"............................Miami did it!

Weird I thought Miami experience success by emphasizing recruiting the "State of Miami" and keeping all the local talent in the area.
 
Weird I thought Miami experience success by emphasizing recruiting the "State of Miami" and keeping all the local talent in the area.

I also thought they emphasized speed in recruiting while being notorious for having one of the most inadequate S&C facilities in the nation.
 
I agree on effort. I disagree on focus. Overall fitness can be forecasted by how many times they put up 225, but I've liked the results of the strength program so far. It seems like less guys are not available on Saturdays. Of course I was surprised to see two critical running backs not available to spring. So maybe my ignorance of injuries is coloring my perspective.

So how many times of putting up 225 would be considered "fit"
 
Trust me on this. It's all about fast twitch muscle fibers. I have slow twitch fat fibers. Basically, it boils down to heredity. Distance runners have a higher level of slow twitch fibers which can function anaerobiclly much better than fast twitch fibers. That's why sprinters aren't good distance runners. we all have both types and also "hybrid" fibers. I think the theory is that you can stimulate the hybrid fibers to develop more speed. I know my kid got much faster doing speed work. But he'd never have been able to become a sprinter.
 
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There is a huge difference between football speed and track speed, and anyone who says otherwise just doesn't know. Nobody in the history of college or pro football has ever lined up, in a game, at WR, RB, CB, S, LB, etc. in sleeveless speed suits, no helmet and runs a straight line as fast as they can. Yes, that kind of speed can translate well to the field, but it's not as important as formation recognition, football IQ/pre snap adjustment efficiency, the speed in which a player makes their read correctly, and the reaction time once the read has been made. I'd rather have 11 "slower" guys (specifically on D) that know exactly what they're doing, are flawless in their reads, and are quick to react and "play football", than 11 track stars that take an extra half second to read and react.

You must not have watched the Oakland Raiders of the Cliff Branch era.
 
I agree on effort. I disagree on focus. Overall fitness can be forecasted by how many times they put up 225, but I've liked the results of the strength program so far. It seems like less guys are not available on Saturdays. Of course I was surprised to see two critical running backs not available to spring. So maybe my ignorance of injuries is coloring my perspective.

Would love to hear the reason behind this, because I don't think I could disagree more with it. A guy can be 5'5" 135 pounds and be in-shape, but since he can't bench 225 in all likelihood he isn't fit according to your criteria. On the other hand, a guy who is 6'2" 300 and fat can likely bench 225 multiple times, but I'm not sure I'd consider a fat person to be fit. The first guy would be benching 1.67x his body weight, the second guy would be bench pressing 0.75x his weight.
 
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You are eating your popcorn awfully slowly.
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Trust me on this. It's all about fast twitch muscle fibers. I have slow twitch fat fibers. Basically, it boils down to heredity. Distance runners have a higher level of slow twitch fibers which can function anaerobiclly much better than fast twitch fibers. That's why sprinters aren't good distance runners. we all have both types and also "hybrid" fibers. I think the theory is that you can stimulate the hybrid fibers to develop more speed. I know my kid got much faster doing speed work. But he'd never have been able to become a sprinter.

DBT is right, but we must not talk about these things because it quickly becomes racial profiling and politically incorrect, regardless of the scientific proof behind it.
 
I also thought they emphasized speed in recruiting while being notorious for having one of the most inadequate S&C facilities in the nation.

This.

Speed kills. Also, our weight room at Dal Ward was vastly superior to their weight room in the same time period.
 
I agree on effort. I disagree on focus. Overall fitness can be forecasted by how many times they put up 225, but I've liked the results of the strength program so far. It seems like less guys are not available on Saturdays. Of course I was surprised to see two critical running backs not available to spring. So maybe my ignorance of injuries is coloring my perspective.

Please assure me that what you meant to say was, "Upper body strength, specifically chest, triceps and shoulder strength, can be forecasted by how many times they put up 225"?
 
utah's QB must be really fast. And I guess we weren't in a hurry to catch him. Cause we didn't.

Also, i liked it when our guys tackled each other.

They look small.

Its true that no one ever lies on those height and weight fact sheets.

Funny, you must have been watching an imaginary game or mistaking the Buffs for the Lammies. Utes' QB Wilson's stat line for the Buffs' game was 7 carries for 11 yards. (Lammies gave up 91 yds to Wilson on 11 carries in the LV Bowl)

So, if everybody pads their roster weights and heights, then a team by team comparison from a neutral site, would be seem to be relatively even.

Using "OurLads" reported heights and weights for all Pac 12 teams, in the trenches, the Buffs were right at "league average" on both sides of the ball. They just didn't have any freaks like that 385 lb'er at U$C.

Get a bigger TV, your old 27 inch screen is out of date, everything looks smaller.
 
Funny, you must have been watching an imaginary game or mistaking the Buffs for the Lammies. Utes' QB Wilson's stat line for the Buffs' game was 7 carries for 11 yards. (Lammies gave up 91 yds to Wilson on 11 carries in the LV Bowl)

So, if everybody pads their roster weights and heights, then a team by team comparison from a neutral site, would be seem to be relatively even.

Using "OurLads" reported heights and weights for all Pac 12 teams, in the trenches, the Buffs were right at "league average" on both sides of the ball. They just didn't have any freaks like that 385 lb'er at U$C.

Get a bigger TV, your old 27 inch screen is out of date, everything looks smaller.

Yup. We had him in the backfield around our 20 and he ran for the first on a 2nd or 3rd down. If we had executed he would have sacked for a loss. Im glad you saw it too.
 
Nice try......

Do or do not....there is no try.

Ok, so since you're saying speed is totally coachable (instead of being god given) and you seem to be arguing that jim leavitt can apparently coach speed better Baer could, where do you see us ranked next year in total defense? I mean, since we will be automatically so much faster with new coaching catching at least 2 or 3 of the other 11 programs should be a safe guess for you. No? Or do you want to double down and say we will catch USC and nip at the heels of O?
 
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Ok, so since you're saying speed is totally coachable (instead of being god given) and you seem to be arguing that jim leavitt can apparently coach speed better Baer could, where do you see us ranked next year in total defense? I mean, since we will be automatically so much faster with new coaching catching at least 2 or 3 of the other 11 programs should be a safe guess for you. No? Or do you want to double down and say we will catch USC and nip at the heels of O?

Game speed is coachable. It's about read and react and it all derives from knowing exactly where you're supposed to line up, exactly what you're responsibilities are once the ball is snapped and then making your read and carrying out said responsibility. Yes, the actual physical speed is a god-given ability and can mask a slow read or misstep off the snap. However, our defense will seem like it's playing much faster if they "get" Jim Leavitt's scheme more than Bear's.
 
Please assure me that what you meant to say was, "Upper body strength, specifically chest, triceps and shoulder strength, can be forecasted by how many times they put up 225"?

No, I meant overall strength. We've all known guys who spend all of their time on a bench, and have chicken legs. I'm making an assumption that guys at the combine have been under a strength and conditioning coach that would not let that happen. You are right that maybe that is a big assumption.
 
Game speed is coachable. It's about read and react and it all derives from knowing exactly where you're supposed to line up, exactly what you're responsibilities are once the ball is snapped and then making your read and carrying out said responsibility. Yes, the actual physical speed is a god-given ability and can mask a slow read or misstep off the snap. However, our defense will seem like it's playing much faster if they "get" Jim Leavitt's scheme more than Bear's.

Totally agree. Defensive speed has as much to do with scheme and knowledge as it does athleticism. Stanford prides itself on a stingy defense yet few would argue that they have the fastest players playing on their defense. I'm sure no one would be upset if we had a couple Richard Shermans on the edge of the defense. Would we still hear, yeah but they're not fast enough? Just go ask the Raiders how their fast team is working out for them. It is a combination of a bunch of factors, but if the players remain the same the only thing that will drastically improve their speed on the field is a good, sound defensive philosophy and a good individual understanding of such.

We can't control the individual understanding of the scheme but we did make a big upgrade regarding defensive philosophy. Leavitt has been very successful at a high level where he has been. Its hard to think that the team won't look "faster" on Saturdays next season. Eventually we will be able to start changing the types of athletes that we are recruiting, but right now our only option is to improve as much as possible mentally and in scheme. I think we brought in a great coach to do just that.
 
Totally agree. Defensive speed has as much to do with scheme and knowledge as it does athleticism. Stanford prides itself on a stingy defense yet few would argue that they have the fastest players playing on their defense. I'm sure no one would be upset if we had a couple Richard Shermans on the edge of the defense. Would we still hear, yeah but they're not fast enough? Just go ask the Raiders how their fast team is working out for them. It is a combination of a bunch of factors, but if the players remain the same the only thing that will drastically improve their speed on the field is a good, sound defensive philosophy and a good individual understanding of such.

We can't control the individual understanding of the scheme but we did make a big upgrade regarding defensive philosophy. Leavitt has been very successful at a high level where he has been. Its hard to think that the team won't look "faster" on Saturdays next season. Eventually we will be able to start changing the types of athletes that we are recruiting, but right now our only option is to improve as much as possible mentally and in scheme. I think we brought in a great coach to do just that.

Yes.

But it's not an either/or situation.

You can have a well-coached veteran team that reads and reacts well... and that team can be either fast or slow. I'll take a faster team.
 
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