I wasn't meaning to call you out personally, but there is a whole lot of meltdown and overreaction for the first 3-0 start since 2009 (?).
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Northern Colorado Game Week (Official Thread)
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no worries. I realized I made it sound worse than what I truly think.jkppkjjkp
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Are those positive signs, or symptoms of the first teamers playing an entire game against a mediocre Big Sky team?
26 carries from Lindsay and 41 pass attempts from Montez make those numbers less impressive.
YPA is right where you want it to be for both of them.
The big issue was with the miscues, not with how the offense was performing.
Laguda's target wasn't blatant. He tried to lower himself and there was no way to stop. Safeties are going to get one of these every once in a while. He didn't do it because he was frustrated, he was just playing hard.
**** Tom Brady
Bliff Cranch
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8.7 YPA for Montez is pretty decent -- he's averaging 8.5 YPA thus far which is top 40 FBS. Lindsay's 5.8 YPA is also not terrible but his 5.3 YPA thru three games only ranks 140 in FBS. Lots of body bag games for many FBS teams thru three games so the stats are inflated a bit. My take is Montez, while erratic, is getting the ball down field despite shaky OL protection but that could change with better competition ahead. Lindsay's numbers, while okay to date, will likely fall unless the OL gels.
Bliff Cranch
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What continues to bug the sh!t out of me is the offense's first down production. Against UNC the median was about 3 yds. Against that level of competition, that ain't getting it done.
sorry, hard to tell from the stands. I will rewatch the game today. Just seems he needs to get his head up on his tackles, getting to be common.
On the personal fouls and other penalties that changed the score by extending UNCo drives:
Laguda's was a penalty by rule. He did lead with his helmet and it was the right call.
Mulumba's was a sketchy call for a long-time football fan and I'm having trouble with this new reality. He didn't dip his head. Ran through the QB and their helmets hit as much due to the follow through on the throw as from anything Mulumba did. This is tough. As a DL, you're taught to disrupt the throwing lane without stretching so high that you miss the tackle. I guess you need to target the QB's belly button these days, which seems weird to me. But it is what it is. UNCo's QB took one in the chin and that's a targeting penalty by rule in 2017.
Franke's late hit on the QB was obvious and just stupid. Took 2 or 3 steps after the ball was released.
Holding call in the red zone was a hold. It was the right call. Some of the other calls on the OL were questionable, but that's how the refs were calling things and you've got to adjust to that.
Laguda's was a penalty by rule. He did lead with his helmet and it was the right call.
Mulumba's was a sketchy call for a long-time football fan and I'm having trouble with this new reality. He didn't dip his head. Ran through the QB and their helmets hit as much due to the follow through on the throw as from anything Mulumba did. This is tough. As a DL, you're taught to disrupt the throwing lane without stretching so high that you miss the tackle. I guess you need to target the QB's belly button these days, which seems weird to me. But it is what it is. UNCo's QB took one in the chin and that's a targeting penalty by rule in 2017.
Franke's late hit on the QB was obvious and just stupid. Took 2 or 3 steps after the ball was released.
Holding call in the red zone was a hold. It was the right call. Some of the other calls on the OL were questionable, but that's how the refs were calling things and you've got to adjust to that.
The targeting penalty on Laguda, I get from a technical aspect, it just sucks. Laguda was coming in to blow up the catch and the ball ended up behind the receiver. That caused him to turn at the last moment and led to the helmet to helmet contact.
The Mulumba one was bull ****. The ref didn't throw the flag until he saw the QB crying on the turf. Dude was a good actor all game.
The thing that frustrated me was how well UNC was able to slow down the pass rush with some really good play action fakes and by spreading out the front seven. Multiple times that QB had all day to throw but it wasn't because the pass rush was too slow, it was because they had the QB taking such deep drops and the offensive line was so spread out that the edge rush had a really long ways to go. Something to watch against teams like UW and USC who run more pro style sets than we are used to.
We can add UCLA and Stanford to the list, as probably the purest pro-style offenses in our conference. UW and USC are multiple, but run a lot of pro-style. Feel that this style is our biggest challenge. We all know we don't defend TE's!
Yeah UCLA runs a lot of spread though, and we don't play Stanford so I didn't mention them.
One takeaway from the game- Nick Fisher is a specimen. When they showed a close up of him during the TV broadcast the guy is an absolute physical freak. I am looking forward to him getting back to 100% and flying around the field.
Granted that was just Pac 12, but their highest graded QB in the country last week was Josh Jackson at 91.8, so wasn't too far off.
Can't believe someone scored higher than Mason Rudolph
Yeah, I see a bunch of Tweets about him from the PFF guys, who love him, but Kenny Hill was the Big 12's highest graded QB last week. Did Rudolph finish that game? Maybe they are only including complete games?
DeNiro
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He had a full game of stats in one half.
2008... And then what happened?
Yeah, there's no difference between the program in 2008 and 2017.
No.
CSU W 24-3
Cal L 7-52
Hawaii W 31-13
Georgia W 29-27
Then CU lost 5 in a row, capped with the meltdown against KU.
There are differences, I agree, but I think you also might agree that CU's 3-0 start in 2008 is more impressive than CU's 3-0 start this year, and there are some very valid reasons for concern based upon what we've seen so far this year.
There are reasons to be concerned about this team but to compare it to 2008 is ridiculous.
To start with we don't have Hawkins running the program. Lots of other differences as well but that's the only one needed to ruin any comparison.