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Officially off the Macintyre bandwagon
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It’s really simple. Win. Win and everything else will take care of itself.
I have the solution for attendance. Not the one for winning.
I am still 50/50 on Mac. He has done a good job of getting us out of the complete basement, and we have a lot of very good players, despite all the recruiting bitching. The Offensive Line looks like it can come around and be good enough to run this offense. The Defensive Line is just not elite enough to compete at the highest level, and is one of the most important places to improve. Linebacker is weak right now, but there is talent that deserves to play more downs. There needs to be a focus on recruiting a big running back. PL is an absolute legendary stud, but when you want to get a 3rd and 1, he is and should not be the first choice. A 6-2, 220 pound thumper would be nice to have. My issue that will get me off the Mac Bandwagon is the in game management of time clock, timeouts, and dictating to his OC what style of play call we should be using at what times of the game. There should have been a clear understanding on that 3rd and 15 that we are going to go for it on 4th down and we want to get between 8-10 yards if possible. These key details are the difference between average and elite. Mac is a program builder, but not a championship winner. He gets 1-2 more years to win me over, or we look for an upgrade.
To all of you calling for a head coach change, who is a realistic better choice? I'm not talking about a wish list, like Saban or Meyer. I mean who would you hire if you were AD, with CUs budget and from likely available coaches?
I think CUs got a good coach right now. Last year's team had lots of seniors and managed to finish games this team hasn't, but the overall talent and performance isn't that different. (I'll allow an exception for the DL. They were surprisingly good last year).
I think CUs got a good coach right now. Last year's team had lots of seniors and managed to finish games this team hasn't, but the overall talent and performance isn't that different. (I'll allow an exception for the DL. They were surprisingly good last year).
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Unless he pulls a rabbit out of his hat on the oL and DL, 2018 will look a lot like this year. If that happens, we have seen the best of MikMac and CU should move on.
Certainly not calling for a change. At HC that is.
That's the understatement of the day.
When MM was hired, CU was never going to attract a plug-in Power 5 HC. Just like the original Mac, CU was going to get a P5 coordinator or a lesser program head coach. Either way, there was going to be a learning curve. MM's challenge seems to be recruiting consistently at a level that allows CU to win in the Pac 12. It's silly, though, to assume he is unaware of or doesn't care about the talent gap on the offensive and defensive fronts. Taking the worst team in a P5 conference to the Pac 12 championship game in 4 years has shown enough potential to allow him the chance to correct deficiencies.
I’ve asked that question nearly every week we get a “Fire Mac” thread, and none of the people pounding the table for it have been able to actually have this discussion. It’s because they don’t really have solutions, they just like screaming about things.
I am not calling fro MikMac to be fired, but there are plenty of choices, Arky St. Blake Anderson, Memphis Mike Norvell, Neal Brown at Troy, I could go on. It isn't like there isn't anybody as good as MikMac that CU could get/afford.
ahoelsken
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Which brings up the conversation about loyalty to his assistants-the bulk of whom are still guys he brought here from SJSU.
Yes it does. I guess we'll see what happens. Continue to get owned on both lines and CU won't win enough games to keep MM in Boulder.
BlackNGold
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Hiring a coach is a process and I am not an AD with a Roladex of who may be good. McCartney was the DC at Michigan, Crowder was on the staff at OU when both of them were hired as HCs at CU. Nick Saban was an assistant coach for 20 years before he got a P5 job - not counting his one year at Toledo, there are guys with potential out there. To say that we have have to have an alternate name before we can request a change is ridiculous. At the same time you are always wanting him to upgrade his assistants without realistic name in hand.
ahoelsken
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I think you're on the right track, but I think this needs to be more like what Notre Dame did after last year. I'd can every assistant on the offensive side of the ball other than maybe Chev, and also Jeffcoat. I think we knew the defense would take a step back.........but the offense's underachievement means we need a total makeover on that side of the ball.
You have to be a little careful about the timing of the change, too. I get the sense that there will be a lot of schools looking for new coaches this year. Florida, Tennessee, Ole Miss and maybe A&M from the SEC alone. Does CU want to wade into that market this year?
True that there's going to be a number of big-time openings this year but CU wouldn't be pursuing the same pool of coaches as those schools anyway.
Seems like this is the year to shake up the assistants? While the ability to use long term contracts on all of them is now possible, only Elliott has one correct? So, it seems as if RG has a master plan to help change the landscape of the staff and he holds the cards. Bernardi, Hagan, Jeffcoat, and Lindgren are the most at risk in my opinion, and honestly I am not sure Hagan is all in on being a go getter assistant anymore. Lindgren does not recruit at all and he would be a good candidate to go to a small school and be a head coach. RG has his new 3 year plan, and the Assistants and the long term contracts are the biggest influence he can have on those 3 years.
I don't think it's a good idea to get rid of Mac yet, just me. Assistants, absolutely.
buffs04
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In this post, we simultaneously give credit to Macintyre for players that he both did and did not recruit.
Uhh, Embree recruited all three of those players.....
buffs04
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Uhh, I think that you completely missed the point. Not that subtle, but evidently over your head.
I guess I did miss your point, whatever will I do?
Hagan does plenty of recruiting. I wish people would stop making stuff up.
Yeah Sefo Liufau was one of Embree's terrible recruits?
2016 Pac-12 South Champions.
Pac-12 appears to be more competitive than the Big 12 but doesn't have the same crappy bottom feeders along with the powerhouses like the Big 12 had.
I don't disagree about the level of support within the state. Never thought the state would be this lopsided in its support of the Broncos while almost every other team, professional or amateur, has nowhere near the support of the Broncos. And the Pac-12 presidents don't care for football as much as the Big 12 presidents did.
MM has a better resume than all those options. What makes you so confident it's easy to get better results?