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2022 Transfer Portal

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The ones who can are doing it.

And how many of the guys in the portal with other options are coming here?

Some posters have this fantasy that we will go pluck a P5 roster off the portal and be fine. The guys who are worth having will have other, better options and few are coming here.
At this point there's only two ways out of this hole. Either find an extremely high level talent evaluator that is able to rebuild the roster by finding good players that are being passed over by other P5 programs, or bring in a big splash coaching hire that changes the narrative around this program and it's willingness to compete. I don't see either of those happening. We are headed full throttle to permanent irrelevance.
 
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There are a lot of good Safeties in the portal.
Any good safeties aren't coming here.

You're missing the point. This program is toxic. I have a thought experiment for you. I want you to ask yourself, "would such and such player transfer to Kansas?"...our program isn't much, if any above Kansas at this point in time. Actually, fun fact...since the start of the Hawkins era they have just as many winning seasons as we do, and they didn't need Covid to get one of them. Also they have more bowl wins. This is a bottom 5 P5 program.

We absolutely ****ing suck and we need drastic change at multiple levels for that to change. Our talent level is not going to get better until that happens.
 
I'm sure there are but has this staff done anything to suggest that they can land any of them?
No they haven't which raises the question, does this staff locate and contact players or do they sit around and wait for players to contact them? Being how CU isn't a "hot spot" to land I'll venture it's the latter.
 

Unfortunately, the departures are not over!

One would think, RG has to rationally think the mass departures, on top of the 60 year low offensive performance, low level of recruiting, poor coaching hires, departure of quality assistant coach (to a PAC 12 team), coach hitting cameraman, coach not attending press conferences after embarrassing losses, coach continually being aggressive with reports when given simple softball questions, players publicly disgusted and even laughing at hires and departures, missed bowl game with a weak schedule, blaming Covid for losses, blaming players for not performing, blaming youth of team for losses, blaming assistant coaches that he hired for poor performance, blaming media for the administrative turmoil, hiring an ineffective recruiting coordinator who had to be relieved of his duties, not hiring replacement coaches in a timely fashion to retain and assure talent, and dismantling the previous recruiting strategy that was effective, getting excited about 3rd and 1 attempts where the goal of gaining one yard was actually (and rarely accomplished), getting excited about 4th and 1 attempts where the goal of gaining one yard was actually (and rarely accomplished), attendance dropping quickly, complaints from top donors down to alum and former players... Maybe there is a pattern of ineffective leadership and knowledge from Dorrell. There simply cannot be a level of support for the above damage (and more) that has occurred in less than 2 years on the job.
 
It is what it is. This is probably not the last departure. Just got to find replacements.
Yes, it is what it is and is surprising no one. No doubt, there will be more. Likely more starters. And, FFS, just wise up. Their replacements will be worse.
 
There are good and bad players.in every league. That is the logic. There is no caste system.
Yeah but there is. You don’t want to hear it, but on the whole, the talent level at the FCS level is nowhere close to what it is at the FBS level and pointing out 5-6 specific exceptions doesn’t change this plainly obvious fact.

Only 6% of NFL rosters are made up of FCS players. Even fewer FCS players are being drafted. And since Division 1 split into 1-A and 1-AA (now called FBS and FCS), there have been 3,216 games played between FBS and FCS teams and FCS programs have won just 475 times (or just under 15% of all games played).

The talent level in FCS football is absolutely a step down from FBS by any measure imaginable.
 
Any good safeties aren't coming here.

You're missing the point. This program is toxic. I have a thought experiment for you. I want you to ask yourself, "would such and such player transfer to Kansas?"...our program isn't much, if any above Kansas at this point in time. Actually, fun fact...since the start of the Hawkins era they have just as many winning seasons as we do, and they didn't need Covid to get one of them. Also they have more bowl wins. This is a bottom 5 P5 program.

We absolutely ****ing suck and we need drastic change at multiple levels for that to change. Our talent level is not going to get better until that happens.
I posted a little about this recently.

The reality is that we are worse than Kansas because our administration isn't even trying anymore.

It hasn't worked for them yet but Kansas has been willing to take risks like hiring coaches like Miles, Weiss, Mangino, etc. They have thrown money at assistants and tried to lift the program.

We aren't even treading water. The one coaching hire we made (Tucker) that gave hope left not only for more money but also because he saw that our administration isn't willing to support the program with what it takes to compete.
 
Oh, they came off quite a while ago. Said it before, we’re witnessing the end of the end of CU football.
Unfortunately, for us Buff fans this is correct. Our only chance to improve this off-season was to hit a home run at OC and get multiple starters from the portal.
Now looking like a bunt at OC and losing multiple starters to the portal.

I wouldn’t dare say it can’t get any worse because CU always surprises me with ineptitude at all levels of the program. Sorry everyone hope has left the building.
 
Do you think RG tried with MT for big boy football and was hamstrung by those above him? He saw what MT saw and has just accepted what CU is, small time.


That's when I gave up.


Edit: mtn beat me to it.
 
Unfortunately, for us Buff fans this is correct. Our only chance to improve this off-season was to hit a home run at OC and get multiple starters from the portal.
Now looking like a bunt at OC and losing multiple starters to the portal.

I wouldn’t dare say it can’t get any worse because CU always surprises me with ineptitude at all levels of the program. Sorry everyone hope has left the building.
I am very concerned about going winless next season. We are so ****ed.
 
We aren't even treading water. The one coaching hire we made (Tucker) that gave hope left not only for more money but also because he saw that our administration isn't willing to support the program with what it takes to compete.
I honestly believe that Tucker exposed these issues. Other coaches saw it and until they change their priorities, we will never attract the Mel Tuckers of the world let alone keep them.
 
Do you think RG tried with MT for big boy football and was hamstrung by those above him? He saw what MT saw and has just accepted what CU is, small time.


That's when I gave up.
I don't believe for a second that RG looked at KD and saw a good hire. You can't convince me of that. He saw someone that fit what those above him were looking for and bit the bullet.
 
Do you think RG tried with MT for big boy football and was hamstrung by those above him? He saw what MT saw and has just accepted what CU is, small time.


That's when I gave up.
I think this is exactly what happened. We place a lot of blame on RG, and some of it is probably deserved. Thing is, the guy he replaced is now the AD at USC and just showed he is, indeed capable of hiring a big time coach when given the proper level of support from his administration. The problems here go way beyond RG. He’s being asked to fix a sinking ship without the tools need to do the job. So yeah, he is doing what we would likely all do when faced with that situation: mail it in and collect your check.
 
I’ve moved on from the angry-stage into open-mockery stage. Open-mockery has a tendency to turn into full on Schadenfreude pretty quickly. I can see myself openly hoping for the worst. Just for spite.
I'm still angry and I don't see that changing anytime soon. What pisses me off the most is none of this stuff seems to be addressed. If a " culture change" is happening, why is it happening going into year 3?
 
I honestly believe that Tucker exposed these issues. Other coaches saw it and until they change their priorities, we will never attract the Mel Tuckers of the world let alone keep them.
One of the worst parts of losing Tucker was the reputational damage across CFB. Mel has been a lot of places and knows pretty much all of the power brokers in CFB. I'm quite sure they are all now very aware of the issues here. Wouldn't surprise me at all if that is one of the driving factors behind being unable to hire.
 
One of the worst parts of losing Tucker was the reputational damage across CFB. Mel has been a lot of places and knows pretty much all of the power brokers in CFB. I'm quite sure they are all now very aware of the issues here. Wouldn't surprise me at all if that is one of the driving factors behind being unable to hire.
Meh, Mel never lasted more than 2 years on any job - so one year was par for the course for him. I get what you are saying, but I don't think his departure is seen nationally as a reflection of how damaged CU is. However, those closer to the program understand this
 
Do you think RG tried with MT for big boy football and was hamstrung by those above him? He saw what MT saw and has just accepted what CU is, small time.


That's when I gave up.


Edit: mtn beat me to it.
I absolutely believe this is what happened. I think he genuinely told the people above him what it would take to keep MT (and it wasn't only money), and they told him that they wouldn't do that. Because of how disconnected from reality the group senior to him is, they were probably just as shocked about MT leaving as the press releases implied.

RG went out and tried to land a real replacement, went to the people above him and said this is what it will take to land a top tier replacement (and again it wasn't only the money), and they again told him that they wouldn't do that.

They probably lectured him about how the last AD found a dudley-do-right who managed to get to the Pac12 championship game, and they were sure he could do it too (completely ignoring the multiple losing seasons that bookended that one year). So he decided to give them what they wanted.

Enter KD.

And viola! Enter a new extension for RG, because the people above him are getting exactly what they want.

RG is getting paid to support mediocrity and failure; that's his excuse.

We don't have to pay to support that, and we shouldn't. Let Folsom become a great road trip game for visiting teams. Great location, fun trip, guaranteed win. There will be butts in seats, the AD will be in the black, and the university leadership will be happy.

Bohn was a better AD than he was given credit for. He missed on his Hawkins hire, but he recognized the need for change and reportedly was told that he couldn't do it, which led to the disastrous last year. Then a budget alumni hire was forced on him. When he was finally allowed to make another real hire, he recognized that all he had was smoking embers and hired someone who had rebuilt a program before. As soon as the trajectory was good, he bailed and got on a better train.
 
Do you think RG tried with MT for big boy football and was hamstrung by those above him? He saw what MT saw and has just accepted what CU is, small time.


That's when I gave up.


Edit: mtn beat me to it.

I don't believe for a second that RG looked at KD and saw a good hire. You can't convince me of that. He saw someone that fit what those above him were looking for and bit the bullet.
I think this excuses RG far too much. There is a huge difference between not being able to go after the Mel Tucker’s of the world, due to institutional limitations, and going full amateur hour with Karl Dorrell.

There are so many qualified candidates out there who aren’t even among the most exciting or highly thought of, and yet, RG decided to go with a guy who hasn’t been in the college game in over a decade and was on the verge of retirement.

Let’s just call it what it is… A guy (RG) who is looking to ride the rest of his contract without having to deal with any possible scandals or go through the search process for another HC that decides to jump to a better opportunity.
 
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