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A&M To The SEC Nearly A Done Deal ??

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Schadenfreude. I has it.
 
I think the SEC will get both A&M and OU - why not - it's only the best conference in football.
 
CVilleBuff said:
I don't think Mizzou has any shot at the Big10 whatsoever. Mizzou was so sure they were Big10 bound last year (even before CU and Nebraska's respective moves had gained any steam) and it turned out the Big10 had zero interest. Any further Big10 expansion other than the dreams of Notre Dame/Texas will come in the Northeast with Syrause and Rutgers, imo. Mizzou's only shot at a superconference is the SEC, and it goes without saying that they're pretty low down on that pecking order as well. It depends on how extensive the realignment is, but the most likely destination for Mizzou/KU/KSU is the Big East. Sucks for them, but that's a whole lot better than what awaits Baylor and Iowa State. TCU's move to the Big East has left a nice opening for Baylor in the MWC.
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I think you are right with Mizzou being low on the priority list. I do think they have a shot with the Big 10 and may have gotten in last time had kNU not been available to take their slot.

I don't think that KSU get much interest, even as part of a package deal with KU. There just aren't enough TVs in Kansas to justify taking in two schools and KSU doesn't bring much to the table. Kansas is the flagship university and has the national name recognition if for nothing else their basketball. I know that they would like to keep the two together but if outside forces are saying we take one or none so the choice is one big time school or both in obscurity you can say goodnight kittycats, same holds true in Oklahoma although OSU does provide enough that they could survive at the top level, not so with KSU.
 
I think you guys are underestimating what Mizzou brings to the table, which are the TV markets of Kansas City and St. Louis. That's a lot of TV's. Once ND's TV contract with NBC runs out, I think they'll be amenable to signing on with the B10. As it stands, they're #3 in TV revenues in their own state. They make less from their TV contract than the University of Indiana. Think about that for a second. With ND in the fold, the B10 will want one more school to make it an even 14. That school, IMO, will be Missouri - assuming they aren't already in the SEC by then.
 
sackman said:
I think you guys are underestimating what Mizzou brings to the table, which are the TV markets of Kansas City and St. Louis. That's a lot of TV's. Once ND's TV contract with NBC runs out, I think they'll be amenable to signing on with the B10. As it stands, they're #3 in TV revenues in their own state. They make less from their TV contract than the University of Indiana. Think about that for a second. With ND in the fold, the B10 will want one more school to make it an even 14. That school, IMO, will be Missouri - assuming they aren't already in the SEC by then.
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Which is why I think they will eventually be in the Big X. They are also a good fit culturally in the Big X and a good fit for the league in non-revenue sports. The schools on the western end of the league are not going to want to be sending their non-revenue sports teams to NY or other points east without some balance in return.

I don't see Mizzou ever going to the SEC, they have other options that are a better fit. These could include OU, aTm, FSU, Clemson, WVU, Miami, and maybe Okie lite in combination with OU.
 
I don't want any Big 12 refugees in the PAC 12. I like it the way it is. The only ones I could really stand would be KU and OU.

Baylor fans have to freaking out right now. They are going to get left out of a major conference along with ISU. Start sucking up to Conference USA.

If A&M gets the SEC invite and accepts, I would love to see them stop playing UT. Same with OU. The likelihood of this happening is low but it would be fun to teach UT a lesson.
 
As I said in the other thread - the word is that Texas A&M is staying. However, if for some reason they ever did leave the conference, UT and OU's plan (i mean the Big 12's plan), is to bring on a new team to fill out the conference and keep the Big 12 alive. They seem very happy with the current situation.
 
I'm starting to believe that the Big 12 isn't going anywhere. As long as UTerus and OU stay the conference will maintain their AQ status. They will invite mid-major teams up to happily fill the void from any defections and enjoy their long running 2 team monopoly.
 
My bet is them asking BYU to fill the void. BYU has no strings attached and they can get a share of the SLC market and they are one of the better mid majors left out there
 
AustinBuff03 said:
My bet is them asking BYU to fill the void. BYU has no strings attached and they can get a share of the SLC market and they are one of the better mid majors left out there
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BYU also has their own network and will be less likely to express angst about the LW network. Makes sense.
 
You guys can keep your rumors. I won't believe anything until I hear it directly from Chip Brown's mouth (FACT!), and since that is usually located squarely up Dodd's keister, I'm not expecting news anytime soon.

Seriously, I'm not going to cheer the early demise of the Big 12(10) because when it crumbles (and it will), we are going to be innundated with UT to the Pac-12 rumors...I'd rather see some good, quality, old fashioned Southwest Conference-style, kin-on-kin infighting for the next couple of years, complete with lawsuits and recruiting violation snitches!
 
SpacemanSpiff said:
You guys can keep your rumors. I won't believe anything until I hear it directly from Chip Brown's mouth (FACT!), and since that is usually located squarely up Dodd's keister, I'm not expecting news anytime soon.

Seriously, I'm not going to cheer the early demise of the Big 12(10) because when it crumbles (and it will), we are going to be innundated with UT to the Pac-12 rumors...I'd rather see some good, quality, old fashioned Southwest Conference-style, kin-on-kin infighting for the next couple of years, complete with lawsuits and recruiting violation snitches!
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I support any action that results in Baylor's banishment to a non-BCS-affilliated conference.
 
SnowBuff said:
I'm very torn. On the one hand, **** Baylor. On the other, **** all the swc schools who would try and jump to the PAC.
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I fully understand both sides of the debate, but I wanted to go public with my priorities on this particular matter. **** Baylor first, THEN try to keep those other ****ers out of the Pac. That's just how I roll.
 
This is the moment in the thread for a little revisionist rendition of the Aggie War Hymn:

Good bye to texas university
So long to the orange and the white
Good luck to dear old Texas Aggies

They are the boys who show the conference flight!
"the eyes of Texas are upon you"
That is the song they sing so well
So good bye to texas Longhorn Network
We're gonna leave you all to…

Chigaroogarem , Chigaroogarem

Rough, Tough, Real stuff, Texas A&M

Saw LHN's horns off
Saw LHN's horns off
Saw LHN's horns off
Short! A!
LHN's horns are sawed off
LHN's horns are sawed off
LHN's horns are sawed off
Short! A!
(Freshmen: FURK!) (Sophomores: DURP-DURP-DURP-DURP-DURP!) (Juniors: S-E-C-WHOOP!) (Seniors: WHOOP!)
 
SpacemanSpiff said:
You guys can keep your rumors. I won't believe anything until I hear it directly from Chip Brown's mouth (FACT!), and since that is usually located squarely up Dodd's keister, I'm not expecting news anytime soon.

Seriously, I'm not going to cheer the early demise of the Big 12(10) because when it crumbles (and it will), we are going to be innundated with UT to the Pac-12 rumors...I'd rather see some good, quality, old fashioned Southwest Conference-style, kin-on-kin infighting for the next couple of years, complete with lawsuits and recruiting violation snitches!
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On local radio this afternoon Chip Brown said he thinks A&M to the SEC by the end of the month was around 50-50, however when they put him on the spot, he says if he had to pick he thinks they will go.

I happen to disagree, however I have no sources.
 
GregInAustin said:
On local radio this afternoon Chip Brown said he thinks A&M to the SEC by the end of the month was around 50-50, however when they put him on the spot, he says if he had to pick he thinks they will go.

I happen to disagree, however I have no sources.
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I look forward to chip brown being wrong about this just like he has been wrong about most everything after he broke the PAC-16 story.
 
MrFrumpylane said:
Why do you give a damn anymore? We're already in greener pastures brotha.
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1. **** chip brown and his lies.
2. **** Texas.
3. **** the big 12-2.
4. **** the risk of the big 12-2 disintegrating and us getting stuck in a pod or division with all those ****** swc schools.
 
Taken from Shaggybevo site:


The latest on Texas A&M, including comments from DeLoss Dodds

Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds said today if Texas A&M leaves the Big 12 to join the SEC, his hope will be that the Big 12 stays together.

Dodds' statement came in response to a question during a luncheon speech at the Young Men's Business League of Austin.

Dodds also said if it meant peace in the Big 12, the Longhorn Network would never air a high school football game.

Dodds asked how many Aggies were in the crowd. When one of the Aggies asked if airing high school games on the Longhorn Network would be an unfair advantage for Texas, Dodds asked the Aggie about the state 7-on-7 tournament featuring high school players on the College Station campus every summer.

Dodds smiled and asked, "Do you know how we feel about that tournament being in College Station?" Then he smiled and said, "You probably don't because we never talk about it."

If Texas A&M was to leave, Dodds said the Big 12 might seek to bring in another school. Dodds also said if there was not sentiment to hold the Big 12 together by the remaining members that Texas and possibly Notre Dame could join forces to create a new conference.

Dodds gave no indication that Texas would pursue the possibility of becoming an independent.

A top administrator at another Big 12 school said the possibility of some Big 12 schools talking to the Pac-12 could become a reality again if Texas A&M was to bolt for the SEC.

In short, everyone in the Big 12 is back in scramble mode until Texas A&M makes clear what its intentions are.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry told The Dallas Morning News Wednesday, "I'll be real honest with you. I just read about it the same time as y'all did. ... As far as I know, conversations are being had. That's frankly all I know. I just refer you to the university and the decision makers over there."

A Texas A&M source with direct knowledge of the Aggies' situation told Orangebloods.com the TAMU regents will be meeting later this month - possibly as early as Aug. 22 - to introduce a new chancellor and deliberate a potential move to the SEC.

A&M president Bowen Loftin has told reporters there is "uncertainty" about the Aggies' future in the Big 12.

The SEC has been largely silent on Texas A&M. And according to one SEC source, the Aggies will have to basically submit an application for acceptance into the SEC (that is expected to be rubber stamped in no time). That process allows members of the SEC to have plausible deniability about any move until A&M's application is submitted.

Two sources in the Big 12 said they've heard the SEC is also interested in adding Florida State to the SEC East.

Sources in the Big 12 say the same political forces that tried to slow down the breakup of the conference last summer are already trying to get answers from A&M about its intentions.

The Texas Legislature is no longer in session. But I was told Wednesday, "the legislators will have something to say about this."

For those wondering how Gov. Rick Perry might factor into all of this, Perry is weighing a run for the White House in 2012.

One source told me a move to the SEC by Texas A&M might help Perry, an A&M graduate and former yell leader, with voters in SEC states.

That's because a move by the Aggies into that conference would help the SEC get into Texas for recruiting purposes. Couldn't quite tell if the source was half-joking. Sadly, the source is probably right.

Several sources thought out loud about why Texas A&M would trade being in the more winnable Big 12, which has an easier path to a national title without a league title game, for a place in the SEC West with the likes of Alabama, LSU, Arkansas and Auburn.

"Texas A&M should be in the top three of the Big 12 in football every year," one Big 12 source said. "In the SEC, they'll fight to be in the top half of the conference every year."

But sources close to Texas A&M say the Aggies are losing faith in the Big 12 as it is currently constructed and have serious issues with Texas and the Longhorn Network.
 
dply said:
I'm just not seeing the value of adding Tech.
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I don't think its there either, but it may simply be a function of very few viable options and doing something to get into the Texas market. Hell, I think I might prefer Air Force. Though Tech may provide enough of a justification to add the PAC 12 network to the basic tier on cable systems in Texas like we are in all the Pac 12 markets...well West Texas at a minimum. Remember we already have a partnership to do so with Comcast and Time Warner in the other PAC markets, and they own most of the cable households in Texas. The PAC may also be betting that they might have a shot at getting UT by default if they provide a killing blow to the PAC 12. Problem with that is if Texas no longer has a "Tech problem" then they may be free to then act as a free agent and give serious consideration to the Big 10.
 
I highly doubt we'll be seeing TT. There's just no appeal of a Tier 3 academic cesspool with mediocre at best athletics located far, far away from the major population centers of Texas. No way the Pac-12 presidents give a go-ahead on that.
 
CVilleBuff said:
I highly doubt we'll be seeing TT. There's just no appeal of a Tier 3 academic cesspool with mediocre at best athletics located far, far away from the major population centers of Texas. No way the Pac-12 presidents give a go-ahead on that.
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No **** especially when WAZZU can hire Mike Leach to replace Wulf, and get the only decent thing about tech.
 
The Pac-12 doesn't want Tech. They never did - they just wanted Texass. And if it was going to take bringing Tech, A&M, and the Pokes in order to do it, then what the hell. The Pac-10 drew a line in the sand last summer: Texas wanted to bring A&M, Tech, OU, OK St., and Baylor (while blowing off CU). The Pac-10 (and particularly Cal) strongly objected to a religious school coming on board, particularly one that brought absolutely nothing to the table. Texas got butthurt when it couldn't bring ALL of its friends, and decided to take its ball and go home. I think the new TV deal was better than anyone imagined, and now, the Pac-12 doesn't really need Texas that much. Do we really need Texas and a bunch of scraps at this point? It might be worth it if we could get Texas and Oklahoma (2 solid football programs) to bring along Tech and OK St. But if this actually goes down and OU joins A&M in the SEC, I don't think the Pac-12 will take in the pu pu platter just so they can get Texass.

Personally, I'd like to see Tech replaced by KU in any future expansion. Texas' insistence on bring along fellow Texas teams really doesn't hold water if A&M is already gone. I know this is all about college football and not basketball, but the Pac-12 is a great basketball conference and having KU would be sweet. Plus they'd bring the Kansas City market. Only way I see it making sense for the Pac is if the four we get are Texas, OU, KU, and maybe OK St. as the last throw-in. I'm pretty happy with just Colorado and Utah, though. Just my .02.


CVilleBuff said:
I highly doubt we'll be seeing TT. There's just no appeal of a Tier 3 academic cesspool with mediocre at best athletics located far, far away from the major population centers of Texas. No way the Pac-12 presidents give a go-ahead on that.
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