It's Tad's 6th season of 21+ wins. Only one (1) other team in the history of CU basketball has won 21 or more, and that team was led by the best player in CU basketball history.
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Tad has to go
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Tad has done an amazing job getting the team dialed in for this turnaround and deserves all the credit in the world for that.
However, this amazing turnaround still has the probability of ending up with CU on the outside looking in for the tournament. I also agree with manhattan that talking about Tad as a coach for life simply because we've decided to set the bar so low for CU isn't a great strategy. Tad has done a phenomenal job re calibrating the expectations at CU and now he needs to be held to the new standard, not what Tom Apke did in the 80s.
Tad took the heat out of his seat with the way he is finishing up here, but if moving forward CU can't get over the next hump (consistent tourney appearances), then I would expect us all to thank Tad for everything he did and look for the guy to take us from good to great.
However, this amazing turnaround still has the probability of ending up with CU on the outside looking in for the tournament. I also agree with manhattan that talking about Tad as a coach for life simply because we've decided to set the bar so low for CU isn't a great strategy. Tad has done a phenomenal job re calibrating the expectations at CU and now he needs to be held to the new standard, not what Tom Apke did in the 80s.
Tad took the heat out of his seat with the way he is finishing up here, but if moving forward CU can't get over the next hump (consistent tourney appearances), then I would expect us all to thank Tad for everything he did and look for the guy to take us from good to great.
I was definitely getting nervous and frustrated during the losing stretch. I’ve seen the error of my ways. That said, there is a reason for short contract extensions and not long term deals.
You know what's awesome, self-imposed limitations!Because CU is such a desirable destination for elite coaches...
You have to keep building on past performance and I have high hopes for Tad in that department. But if he falls short, bring someone in who can get it done.
Easy to say before you get into resource allocation for an AD. Football is still shaky on resource allocation to be a consistent bowl team (let alone very good to championship level).
I think just saying "building on past performance" is ignoring the reality on the ground. Shapiro said last week (hyperbolically) that the basketball program doesn't even have a recruiting budget right now because the AD is busying paying Mac. If there's even a hint of truth to that statement, that's real bad. It makes a lot of G5 jobs (A LOT) better jobs than CU, especially if you factor recruit access into the picture.
Very true. But there is a difference between anointing Tad coach for life based on performance, and keeping a successful coach who may have plateaued simply for budgetary reasons. I can see the logic in the latter, but not the former.
If that is true, Rick George should be fired tomorrow. He found $100M for improvements? Certainly he can find $1-2M for Tad to recruit with....
That Shapiro comment has to be total BS.
This. The guy has won more than anyone at CU. They ought to build him a statue.
This all upsets me further for not getting ground floor bitcoin. I could’ve been the bag man to give kiddos six figures to choose CU and not bat an eye.
Let's just acknowledge that, in the basketball arena, CU is not going to outrecruit Arizona, Oregon, UCLA or USC (unless those teams get sanctioned.) We all know the reasons for this.
I've always believed Tad is trying to win a NC at CU. His road is much tougher than many other programs because of recruiting, but he's always trying to build his roster towards that goal. That's what I want from CU's coach--I don't want a Baylor-like crash and burn.
WTF is a P5 conference in basketball.
Like, I know what you're trying to say, but it's sort of like talking about who is going to play DH for the Rockies.
Birch1
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Is 21 wins, 21 wins? I’d say it behooves Tad to continue to schedule the OOC in the same manner as this year. No more playing ranked teams. We got to get to 21 wins anyway we can. In the end that’s all that’s remembered. Amiright?
The ONLY problem with this scenario is we don’t get those super fun buzzer beaters over top teams (especially with our conference). Those were fun. But Tad can keep winning and we’ll be pretty happy. Not being sarcastic here actually. If wins, regardless of quality, are what get contracts renewed and get us into either the NCAA or NIT tourney’s, well then...
Recruit access? Like the fact that CO HS basketball is so bad that I was able to play it for a year?
The P5 football conference teams have a perception of elevated status (except the Pac-12 because it currently sucks) even in basketball. Given their larger markets and bigger fanbases, at-large selection often includes these schools for ratings.
I bring it up because our conference is much more terrible now and we’re still a meh team.
In theory being in a P5 football conference means that your school gets significant revenues from football. That means that more resources are available to invest in basketball and the basketball team doesn't have the burden of significantly funding the non-revenue sports so more basketball revenues can go back into the program.
There are some truly terrible basketball programs at P5 football schools but normally even when football is the focus the P5 conferences have higher quality basketball than most of the non-P5 football conferences including those that don't do football at all.
Tad is a bonanza for this AD. No wonder he got a raise. They take all the money he makes and pay off old football coaches with it.
'99
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And even with the raise, Tad is in the lower third of pay for coaches in the 'worst P5 basketball conference'. Good luck finding someone to perform better than Tad without significantly upping salary and recruiting budgets for hoops. Expectations are fine, but folks have to be realistic.
CU is making 75% profit on the college hoops program!?!?!?!
that's pharma level margins. there better not be a budget problem w/r/t recruiting hoops.
seriously, I have to believe that calculation is missing some key expenses.
not following your math Hokie?
25% fvck. i'm losing it, thanks
Yeah, that's just above 30%.
PREACH, BROTHER. PREACH. Colorado HS Basketball is ROUGH.