cubuffs85
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I wouldn't exactly be shocked if we missed out IF we lost to OSU again, but I think were about 65% in at this point either way. If we win on Wed, were 90% in.
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2012-13 Bubble Watch
- Thread starter Buffnik
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I wouldn't exactly be shocked if we missed out IF we lost to OSU again, but I think were about 65% in at this point either way. If we win on Wed, were 90% in.
CVilleBuff
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Palm's Monday update. CU still a 10, playing Wisconsin in Philadelphia. Georgetown is the 2
Palm's Monday update. CU still a 10, playing Wisconsin in Philadelphia. Georgetown is the 2
Oof. Wisconsin followed by Georgetown? Most boring pod (entertainment value wise) ever?
Don't think we are yet established enough with a tourney resume to really complain about any seeding. Just get in.
wyobuff
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this. Get the ticket punched, then if we make a run we can claim we were underseeded.
I'm not complaining about seeding. I'm complaining about the potential of having to watch Georgetown and Wisconsin play, those two teams would be perfectly happy winning a game in the 30s.
I'd be perfectly happy with Colorado winning a game in the 30's in the tourney as well.
J-R-K
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Denver destroyed a very good La Tech team over the weekend to finish 16-2 in the WAC and get a share of the conference title. However given a weak SOS and poor showing in non-conference games they will probably have to win the WAC tourney to get in the dance. RPI is currently #58. An interesting stat with DU-their #10 in the country in FG percentage but only #232 in points per game.
CVilleBuff
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Some other bubble games, other games of note via potential seeding interest for Wednesday:
Cincinnati vs Providence (New York, NY): Cincinnati 21-10 RPI 48. Cincinnati closed the regular season with a home win over lowly South Florida, thus avoiding disaster. They're going to get in. As it stands, they're looking to be in the 10 seed range. So, a potential 8/9 matchup or 7/10 matchup for CU depending on how the respective conference tournaments go for each team. Keep an eye out for the Bearcats.
Arizona State vs Stanford: (Las Vegas, NV): Arizona State 20-11 RPI 92. Stanford 18-13 RPI 66. Two teams on the fringe of the bubble. There's reasons to debate whether either truly are, yet they are appearing on the fringes here and there. Needless to say, it will take a run to the Pac-12 championship game for either of these teams to have any hope of an at large. It will be a nice step in the right direction for the winner of this game, though. With the bubble as it stands, my personal opinion is it might not be so far-fetched as it currently seems for one of these teams to sneak in if they make the championship game. Would involve some outside help though, for sure.
St. John's vs Villanova (New York, NY). Villanova 19-12 RPI 53. Pretty much assured of being in, IMO. Probably looking at being an 11 seed as it stands due to their big win over Georgetown to end the regular season. Potential first opponent for CU depending on how the respective conference tournaments go.
Boise State vs San Diego State (Las Vegas, NV). Boise State 21-9 RPI 37. Huge game for Boise State. As it stands, they're probably in. At best, an 11 seed with a bye, perhaps more likely, a 12 seed facing the "First Four" and one of the last teams in (Lunardi's 3rd to last IN). They have won 5/6, including CSU and beating San Diego State in their final game of the regular season. A win will lock them in. A loss will leave them sweating it out. Losing to San Diego State wouldn't do any serious damage to the resume, but when you're presumably sitting right on the line, the slightest negative set back can be enough to snub you. My personal opinion is they've done enough and should get in (Beaten UNLV, San Diego State, Colorado State, @ Creighton...two bad losses: @ Nevada, @ Utah) Is CU's resume really all that much better? Not so sure.
Cincinnati vs Providence (New York, NY): Cincinnati 21-10 RPI 48. Cincinnati closed the regular season with a home win over lowly South Florida, thus avoiding disaster. They're going to get in. As it stands, they're looking to be in the 10 seed range. So, a potential 8/9 matchup or 7/10 matchup for CU depending on how the respective conference tournaments go for each team. Keep an eye out for the Bearcats.
Arizona State vs Stanford: (Las Vegas, NV): Arizona State 20-11 RPI 92. Stanford 18-13 RPI 66. Two teams on the fringe of the bubble. There's reasons to debate whether either truly are, yet they are appearing on the fringes here and there. Needless to say, it will take a run to the Pac-12 championship game for either of these teams to have any hope of an at large. It will be a nice step in the right direction for the winner of this game, though. With the bubble as it stands, my personal opinion is it might not be so far-fetched as it currently seems for one of these teams to sneak in if they make the championship game. Would involve some outside help though, for sure.
St. John's vs Villanova (New York, NY). Villanova 19-12 RPI 53. Pretty much assured of being in, IMO. Probably looking at being an 11 seed as it stands due to their big win over Georgetown to end the regular season. Potential first opponent for CU depending on how the respective conference tournaments go.
Boise State vs San Diego State (Las Vegas, NV). Boise State 21-9 RPI 37. Huge game for Boise State. As it stands, they're probably in. At best, an 11 seed with a bye, perhaps more likely, a 12 seed facing the "First Four" and one of the last teams in (Lunardi's 3rd to last IN). They have won 5/6, including CSU and beating San Diego State in their final game of the regular season. A win will lock them in. A loss will leave them sweating it out. Losing to San Diego State wouldn't do any serious damage to the resume, but when you're presumably sitting right on the line, the slightest negative set back can be enough to snub you. My personal opinion is they've done enough and should get in (Beaten UNLV, San Diego State, Colorado State, @ Creighton...two bad losses: @ Nevada, @ Utah) Is CU's resume really all that much better? Not so sure.
cubuffs85
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Basically an elimination game, hopefully a quick exit for the "survivor." Truth be told, if win the P12 Tourney, I'm all in favor of as many P12 teams in the Tourney as possible. While I think we could win it all, I'm not counting on it.
I would obviously be happy about CU playing in Philadelphia twice....
cubuffs85
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Same, hopefully a late Fri night game followed by a Sunday matinee then DC regionals, and ATL isn't that bad. Oh well I can dream.
OUBuff
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Brennen says... LOCK
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch
CVilleBuff
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Thursday's bubble watch (and some games of potential opponents for CU)
Boise State lost to San Diego State tonight. Boise now 21-10 RPI 40. They were just in heading into this game (Bracket Matrix 4th to last team in, Lunardi's 3rd to last team in). I don't think a loss to SDSU drops them much, if at all, but they'll be sweating it big time on Selection Sunday. Still, they have a solid RPI, wins over UNLV, San Diego State, Colorado State, @ Creighton. A couple bad losses @ Nevada, @ Utah. Still, this is a resume that stacks up favorably compared to the other bubble teams. I think Boise gets in, albeit shipped to Dayton for the "First Four".
Cincinnati vs Georgetown (New York, NY). Cincinnati 22-10 RPI 45. Bearcats beat Providence Wednesday. They're safely in, I'm putting them here as a potential opponent for CU. As it stands, they're in the 10-11 range, but a win over Georgetown would start bumping them up the totem pole.
Minnesota vs Illinois (Chicago, IL) Minnesota 20-11 RPI 26. Illinois 21-11 RPI 44. Two teams safely in. Both teams are currently sitting in the 8-9 range. Keep an eye out for these two. Very possible CU plays one of them.
Iowa State vs Oklahoma (Kansas City, MO) Iowa State 21-10 RPI 47. Oklahoma 20-10 RPI 34. Both these teams are likely in, although Iowa State is cutting it a little close and could use another win to lock it. Oklahoma did themselves no favors ending the regular season with a loss to TCU (and recent loss to Texas). At the end of the day, though, these two are both getting in, IMO. As it stands, Iowa State is looking at the 11-12 range, and Oklahoma the 9-11 range. Buffs could easily end up playing Oklahoma, and Iowa State is one to keep an eye on for bubble purposes.
UAB vs Southern Miss (Tulsa, OK) Southern Miss 23-8 RPI 32. Southern Miss has the most over-inflated RPI of any team in the country. They have some fringe top 100 wins, that's it, and they just recently picked up an awful loss at Marshall for their first bad loss. As it stands, they're on the outside. Very hard to see how they'd get an at-large, because their only chance at getting a quality win is against Memphis in the title game. They're sitting about 5 spots on the outside (according to both Lunardi and Bracket Matrix). They'd need some major breaks and some weird committee behavior to get an at-large (but the committee has been known to do so...)
Virginia Tech vs NC State (Greensboro, NC) NC State 22-9 RPI 30. NC State is very much in the 8 seed range. Keep an eye out. Buffs could face the Wolfpack.
Arizona State vs UCLA (Las Vegas, NV) Arizona State 21-11 RPI 81. Sun Devils need to make the Pac-12 Final to have a legitimate chance. Their RPI is just too awful right now (lowest at-large ever given was 67). Prior to ASU's win over Stanford today, Lunardi had them as his 8th team out (most sources aren't even listing them as having a chance anymore). I think those sources have written them off too soon. It's a long shot, but a win over UCLA followed by one more quality win (and not so bad loss in the Final) would have ASU's RPI around the range of feasibility. It's a long shot, but there is still a glimmer of hope amongst the douchebags of Tempe with IQ's lower than their RPI.
Tennessee vs Mississippi State (Nashville, TN) Tennessee 19-11 RPI 55. Tennessee is the definition of RIGHT on the line. Lunardi's first team OUT, Bracket Matrix Last team IN. Needless to say, a loss to lowly Mississippi State (worst BCS conference team in the country) would crush their hopes entirely. A win on its own isn't going to do anything to push the Vols forward. The Vols need a deep run in the SEC Tournament, far too many horrendous RPI landmines floating around in the SEC Tournament, and only two actual quality win opportunities (Florida, Mizzou). Dangerous tournament.
Iowa vs Northwestern (Chicago, IL) Iowa 20-11 RPI 76. Iowa is still lurking (Bracket Matrix 3rd team OUT, Lunardi's 8th team OUT). They need a deep run in the B1G Tournament and some quality wins. In reality, they need to make the Final.
Baylor vs Oklahoma State (Kansas City, MO) Baylor 18-13 RPI 63. Baylor got that massive win over Kansas to keep their hopes alive. However, they're still on the outside. Lunardi's 4th team OUT, Bracket Matrix 6th team OUT. A win over Oklahoma State would go a long way to pushing them towards sneaking in, but they probably need 2 more wins (which likely means beating K-State Friday). Do that, and they're in.
Boise State lost to San Diego State tonight. Boise now 21-10 RPI 40. They were just in heading into this game (Bracket Matrix 4th to last team in, Lunardi's 3rd to last team in). I don't think a loss to SDSU drops them much, if at all, but they'll be sweating it big time on Selection Sunday. Still, they have a solid RPI, wins over UNLV, San Diego State, Colorado State, @ Creighton. A couple bad losses @ Nevada, @ Utah. Still, this is a resume that stacks up favorably compared to the other bubble teams. I think Boise gets in, albeit shipped to Dayton for the "First Four".
Cincinnati vs Georgetown (New York, NY). Cincinnati 22-10 RPI 45. Bearcats beat Providence Wednesday. They're safely in, I'm putting them here as a potential opponent for CU. As it stands, they're in the 10-11 range, but a win over Georgetown would start bumping them up the totem pole.
Minnesota vs Illinois (Chicago, IL) Minnesota 20-11 RPI 26. Illinois 21-11 RPI 44. Two teams safely in. Both teams are currently sitting in the 8-9 range. Keep an eye out for these two. Very possible CU plays one of them.
Iowa State vs Oklahoma (Kansas City, MO) Iowa State 21-10 RPI 47. Oklahoma 20-10 RPI 34. Both these teams are likely in, although Iowa State is cutting it a little close and could use another win to lock it. Oklahoma did themselves no favors ending the regular season with a loss to TCU (and recent loss to Texas). At the end of the day, though, these two are both getting in, IMO. As it stands, Iowa State is looking at the 11-12 range, and Oklahoma the 9-11 range. Buffs could easily end up playing Oklahoma, and Iowa State is one to keep an eye on for bubble purposes.
UAB vs Southern Miss (Tulsa, OK) Southern Miss 23-8 RPI 32. Southern Miss has the most over-inflated RPI of any team in the country. They have some fringe top 100 wins, that's it, and they just recently picked up an awful loss at Marshall for their first bad loss. As it stands, they're on the outside. Very hard to see how they'd get an at-large, because their only chance at getting a quality win is against Memphis in the title game. They're sitting about 5 spots on the outside (according to both Lunardi and Bracket Matrix). They'd need some major breaks and some weird committee behavior to get an at-large (but the committee has been known to do so...)
Virginia Tech vs NC State (Greensboro, NC) NC State 22-9 RPI 30. NC State is very much in the 8 seed range. Keep an eye out. Buffs could face the Wolfpack.
Arizona State vs UCLA (Las Vegas, NV) Arizona State 21-11 RPI 81. Sun Devils need to make the Pac-12 Final to have a legitimate chance. Their RPI is just too awful right now (lowest at-large ever given was 67). Prior to ASU's win over Stanford today, Lunardi had them as his 8th team out (most sources aren't even listing them as having a chance anymore). I think those sources have written them off too soon. It's a long shot, but a win over UCLA followed by one more quality win (and not so bad loss in the Final) would have ASU's RPI around the range of feasibility. It's a long shot, but there is still a glimmer of hope amongst the douchebags of Tempe with IQ's lower than their RPI.
Tennessee vs Mississippi State (Nashville, TN) Tennessee 19-11 RPI 55. Tennessee is the definition of RIGHT on the line. Lunardi's first team OUT, Bracket Matrix Last team IN. Needless to say, a loss to lowly Mississippi State (worst BCS conference team in the country) would crush their hopes entirely. A win on its own isn't going to do anything to push the Vols forward. The Vols need a deep run in the SEC Tournament, far too many horrendous RPI landmines floating around in the SEC Tournament, and only two actual quality win opportunities (Florida, Mizzou). Dangerous tournament.
Iowa vs Northwestern (Chicago, IL) Iowa 20-11 RPI 76. Iowa is still lurking (Bracket Matrix 3rd team OUT, Lunardi's 8th team OUT). They need a deep run in the B1G Tournament and some quality wins. In reality, they need to make the Final.
Baylor vs Oklahoma State (Kansas City, MO) Baylor 18-13 RPI 63. Baylor got that massive win over Kansas to keep their hopes alive. However, they're still on the outside. Lunardi's 4th team OUT, Bracket Matrix 6th team OUT. A win over Oklahoma State would go a long way to pushing them towards sneaking in, but they probably need 2 more wins (which likely means beating K-State Friday). Do that, and they're in.
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Nor Cal Buff
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They play the 2nd slowest pace in D1 so it shouldn't be all that surprising that their PPG is so low, but it does show why using nominal stats like PPG instead of tempo-adjusted stats when evaluating offenses is idiotic.
Who the hell writes this crap?
In fairness to ESPN, it's an AP feed. But ... SERIOUSLY? :rolling_eyes:
In fairness to ESPN, it's an AP feed. But ... SERIOUSLY? :rolling_eyes:
CVilleBuff
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CVilleBuff
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Iowa beat Northwestern to keep their faint hopes alive. Beat Michigan State tomorrow and then we can talk about them legitimately as a potential team to sneak in...though it will involve making the B1G final.
CVilleBuff
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Friday's bubble games
NC State vs Virginia -- Virginia 21-10 RPI 66. UVa is the 4 seed, and thus had a bye until Friday. The Hoos have a resume loaded with quality wins, however, they have some nasty losses, many coming while they were injured early on. It remains to be seen how much the committee takes that into account. However, most everyone except Palm has the Hoos either just in or just out. Lunardi currently has UVA as his 2nd to last team IN. Palm has refused to acknowledge UVA as having a legitimate chance throughout, due to no team with that many sub-100 losses ever getting in. The Bracket Matrix, the compilation of 98 bracketology projections, has UVA on average the 2nd to last team OUT. This is one of the weirdest resumes you'll ever see. However, it's clear that UVA MUST win this game or they aren't getting in. A win probably locks up a bid, although they may want another to be safe. There's just no telling what the committee will do with a resume like this, but a 22 win ACC team would be mighty hard to ignore. NCSU, meanwhile, remains an opponent that the Buffs may bump into in a 7/10 or 8/9 game.
La Salle vs Butler. La Salle 21-8 RPI 41. La Salle is Lunardi's 4th to last team in, 2nd to last team in according to the Bracket Matrix. Beat Butler, and they lock themselves a bid. Lose, and they're going to be right on the line and at the mercy of the committee. Monstrous game.
Tennessee vs Alabama. Tennessee 20-11 RPI 56. Alabama 20-11 RPI 62. Wow. What a bubble game this is. Tennessee is the LAST team in according to both Lunardi and the Bracket Matrix. Alabama is the 6th team out according to Lunardi, 9th team out according to Bracket Matrix. Clearly a must-win for Tennessee. A loss puts the Vols on the outside. Alabama, meanwhile, likely has to get the auto-bid despite technically clinging to the fringes of the bubble. It's just too much ground to make up and they just don't have the resume. Too many teams to leap frog in the pecking order for an at-large to be realistic. This one is going to be a hell of a game between two teams fighting for their Big Dance lives. A win here by no means makes Tennessee a 'lock', but it would sure be a solid step towards safety.
UTEP vs Southern Miss. Southern Miss 24-8 RPI 34. Southern Miss is the 5th team out according to both Lunardi and Bracket Matrix. Southern Miss basically has to get the auto-bid, or they aren't getting in. They have a ridiculously over-inflated RPI, as they have nothing but a few fringe top 100 wins to offer, and a recent horrendous loss to lowly Marshall. The only quality team in the C-USA Tournament they can face is Memphis, and it won't be until the final. Without a win over Memphis, they aren't getting in despite sitting close. It's auto-bid or bust for Southern Miss.
Vanderbilt vs Kentucky. Kentucky 21-10 RPI 49. Kentucky is in as it stands, but barely. 3rd to last team in according to both Lunardi and Bracket Matrix. This is an absolute must win for Kentucky. A sub-100 loss to Vanderbilt means they aren't getting in. Yes, it really is possible Kentucky could not get in, and a loss to Vanderbilt is how. Even after they beat Vanderbilt, they'd be wise to get a win over Ole Miss/Mizzou to truly lock it up.
Michigan State vs Iowa. Iowa 21-11. RPI 74. Iowa is lurking. Lunardi's 7th team out, Bracket Matrix 4th team out. But keep in mind these largely haven't been updated since teams like Baylor lost. The bottom line, however, is they have to beat Michigan State to have any chance. And even if they do that, they need one more win to make the B1G final. That would very likely do the trick.
NC State vs Virginia -- Virginia 21-10 RPI 66. UVa is the 4 seed, and thus had a bye until Friday. The Hoos have a resume loaded with quality wins, however, they have some nasty losses, many coming while they were injured early on. It remains to be seen how much the committee takes that into account. However, most everyone except Palm has the Hoos either just in or just out. Lunardi currently has UVA as his 2nd to last team IN. Palm has refused to acknowledge UVA as having a legitimate chance throughout, due to no team with that many sub-100 losses ever getting in. The Bracket Matrix, the compilation of 98 bracketology projections, has UVA on average the 2nd to last team OUT. This is one of the weirdest resumes you'll ever see. However, it's clear that UVA MUST win this game or they aren't getting in. A win probably locks up a bid, although they may want another to be safe. There's just no telling what the committee will do with a resume like this, but a 22 win ACC team would be mighty hard to ignore. NCSU, meanwhile, remains an opponent that the Buffs may bump into in a 7/10 or 8/9 game.
La Salle vs Butler. La Salle 21-8 RPI 41. La Salle is Lunardi's 4th to last team in, 2nd to last team in according to the Bracket Matrix. Beat Butler, and they lock themselves a bid. Lose, and they're going to be right on the line and at the mercy of the committee. Monstrous game.
Tennessee vs Alabama. Tennessee 20-11 RPI 56. Alabama 20-11 RPI 62. Wow. What a bubble game this is. Tennessee is the LAST team in according to both Lunardi and the Bracket Matrix. Alabama is the 6th team out according to Lunardi, 9th team out according to Bracket Matrix. Clearly a must-win for Tennessee. A loss puts the Vols on the outside. Alabama, meanwhile, likely has to get the auto-bid despite technically clinging to the fringes of the bubble. It's just too much ground to make up and they just don't have the resume. Too many teams to leap frog in the pecking order for an at-large to be realistic. This one is going to be a hell of a game between two teams fighting for their Big Dance lives. A win here by no means makes Tennessee a 'lock', but it would sure be a solid step towards safety.
UTEP vs Southern Miss. Southern Miss 24-8 RPI 34. Southern Miss is the 5th team out according to both Lunardi and Bracket Matrix. Southern Miss basically has to get the auto-bid, or they aren't getting in. They have a ridiculously over-inflated RPI, as they have nothing but a few fringe top 100 wins to offer, and a recent horrendous loss to lowly Marshall. The only quality team in the C-USA Tournament they can face is Memphis, and it won't be until the final. Without a win over Memphis, they aren't getting in despite sitting close. It's auto-bid or bust for Southern Miss.
Vanderbilt vs Kentucky. Kentucky 21-10 RPI 49. Kentucky is in as it stands, but barely. 3rd to last team in according to both Lunardi and Bracket Matrix. This is an absolute must win for Kentucky. A sub-100 loss to Vanderbilt means they aren't getting in. Yes, it really is possible Kentucky could not get in, and a loss to Vanderbilt is how. Even after they beat Vanderbilt, they'd be wise to get a win over Ole Miss/Mizzou to truly lock it up.
Michigan State vs Iowa. Iowa 21-11. RPI 74. Iowa is lurking. Lunardi's 7th team out, Bracket Matrix 4th team out. But keep in mind these largely haven't been updated since teams like Baylor lost. The bottom line, however, is they have to beat Michigan State to have any chance. And even if they do that, they need one more win to make the B1G final. That would very likely do the trick.
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CVilleBuff
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Virginia on the brink, down to NCSU 55-42.
La Salle on the brink, down 57-49 to Butler
La Salle on the brink, down 57-49 to Butler
CVilleBuff
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UVA about to lose to NCSU. UVA falls to 21-11 This wasn't the killer, it's extremely hard for teams from outside the Carolinas to do anything in Greensboro. It was an inexcusable loss to Old Dominion early on, injured or not, that can't happen. The choke at Boston College in the final minutes recently was a killer as well. The Committee may make some shocking decision and some help could come their way from other games. But for all intents and purposes, UVA's bubble is popped. It's a shame, they had the potential to make some noise had they snuck in.
La Salle loses to Butler. La Salle falls to 21-9. Entering this game, they were the 2nd to last team in according to the Bracket Matrix. They may have just played themselves out as well. Certainly right on the line.
La Salle loses to Butler. La Salle falls to 21-9. Entering this game, they were the 2nd to last team in according to the Bracket Matrix. They may have just played themselves out as well. Certainly right on the line.
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CVilleBuff
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Tennessee loses to Alabama. Vols 20-12. They were the last team IN going into this. Their bubble just popped. They needed to go deeper. Alabama's faint hopes remain, but they'll have to beat Florida to have ANY chance.
Bubble is getting very, very interesting with Virginia, Tennessee and La Salle all losing, folks.
Bubble is getting very, very interesting with Virginia, Tennessee and La Salle all losing, folks.
CVilleBuff
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All these other losses have renewed Virginia's hopes. Lunardi's latest brief update. Middle Tennessee moves in as last team IN. Virginia the first team OUT. Tennessee falls to 4th out, were previously the last team in.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/79511/bracket-update-tennessee-moves-out
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/79511/bracket-update-tennessee-moves-out
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CVilleBuff
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Maryland up on Duke at halftime. Maryland is a complete long shot, but a win would obviously go a long way.
Also, looks like the Maryland dot on the ACC logo at mid-court has been taken off. Well-done, ACC. Maryland is going to regret leaving. Yes, they'll be with Rutgers. They'll also be with Nebraska, Iowa and Minnesota. Enjoy those Wednesday night trips to Lincoln. Maryland is a clear fit in the ACC. They may not have had a 'true' rival, but they aren't going to in the B1G, either. Don't kid yourself about Penn State, Maryland. They're focused elsewhere. The novelty will wear off and there will be regrets, like we're already seeing with Mizzou and West Virginia with their respective moves -- and WVU didn't even have any other option aside from a sinking ship. Sorry, cnbuff, I'm certain I'll be right about this :thumbsup:
Also, looks like the Maryland dot on the ACC logo at mid-court has been taken off. Well-done, ACC. Maryland is going to regret leaving. Yes, they'll be with Rutgers. They'll also be with Nebraska, Iowa and Minnesota. Enjoy those Wednesday night trips to Lincoln. Maryland is a clear fit in the ACC. They may not have had a 'true' rival, but they aren't going to in the B1G, either. Don't kid yourself about Penn State, Maryland. They're focused elsewhere. The novelty will wear off and there will be regrets, like we're already seeing with Mizzou and West Virginia with their respective moves -- and WVU didn't even have any other option aside from a sinking ship. Sorry, cnbuff, I'm certain I'll be right about this :thumbsup:
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CVilleBuff
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This was Virginia's worst game in quite some time, overall. They beat NCSU in their other meeting during the regular season. The bubble pressure appeared to get to them. Also, it's a massive disadvantage to be playing NCSU in Greensboro. Essentially a road game. UVA has other scoring options, they just decided to not show up. Justin Anderson, Evan Nolte and Mike Tobey are top notch talent. Just young. No doubt they're better than La Salle, Boise or MTSU, however, the holy RPI disagrees. They have an outside shot of sneaking in. The truth is they have the weirdest resume of all-time, there's no telling what the committee may decide to do with them.
Kentucky is losing by 14 to Vanderbilt at halftime. A loss to Vanderbilt is Kentucky's ticket to the NIT. Yes, Kentucky really could not get in.
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cubuffs85
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No the Terps won't when the conference dissolves like the Big East, maybe it won't quite like that, but WVU made the right move, you think they wish they had remained in the Big East or America 12? I agree the novelty will wear off eventually, but when FSU/Clemson/NC State are all in different conferences won't matter as much. If basketball was the only thing that matter I'd agree with you, but football and markets drive this stuff. I was against at first, but I think ultimately it's the right move.
In terms of the game itself, I think Maryland needs to make the finals at minimum, but will probably need to win it all to get the bid. I looked at the scenarios and that's the only really way I see them getting in, maybe if Kentucky loses that opens things up a bit.
cubuffs85
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Assuming Kentucky loses, CBS must be pissed since they were going to have the highest ratings for a First Four for years to come.