Also corresponds with the arrival of the NFL in LA. The Rams are now the main attraction in town. For years USC has a monopoly on football in the city of angels. No longer.
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Also corresponds with the arrival of the NFL in LA. The Rams are now the main attraction in town. For years USC has a monopoly on football in the city of angels. No longer.
BlackNGold
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I always thought Helton was a bad hire. USC has had a mess with their ADs, Garrett lost touch with boosters and reality, Pat Haden for some reason always found controversy and Lynn Swann was a stretch, IMO. It will be interesting, USC in spite of their resources and history of success seem to be determined to screw things up.
Always a fun "for entertainment purposes only" column this time of year: http://footballscoop.com/news/footballscoops-nuclear-winter-iv/
Some of the highlights:
LATE NOVEMBER
Jeff Long’s longs flirtations with Les Miles prove to be a useful distraction… for his pursuit of another out-of-work coach. Kansas hires former Rice, Tulsa, Pittsburgh and Arizona State head coach Todd Graham.
Wasting no time, newly-installed Vanderbilt AD Boo Corrigan dismisses Derek Mason after the Commodores drop a 21-7 decision to Tennessee, finishing the year at 4-8 and 1-7 in SEC play.
A 5-0 start turning into a 5-7 finishes leads Colorado AD Rick George to dismiss head coach Mike MacIntyre.
JOBS FILLED: Kansas, Bowling Green
NEW OPENINGS: Akron, Central Michigan, Colorado, Connecticut, East Carolina, Kansas State, Louisville, North Carolina, Rutgers, Texas State, UNLV, USC, Vanderbilt
JOBS STILL OPEN: Louisville, Maryland
Total openings: 17
Some of the highlights:
LATE NOVEMBER
JOBS FILLED: Kansas, Bowling Green
NEW OPENINGS: Akron, Central Michigan, Colorado, Connecticut, East Carolina, Kansas State, Louisville, North Carolina, Rutgers, Texas State, UNLV, USC, Vanderbilt
JOBS STILL OPEN: Louisville, Maryland
Total openings: 17
I thought the same thing when I read it. He'd probably get KU winning some games without losing the recruiting inroads Beatty made in TX.
BlackNGold
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Always a fun "for entertainment purposes only" column this time of year: http://footballscoop.com/news/footballscoops-nuclear-winter-iv/
Some of the highlights:
LATE NOVEMBER
Jeff Long’s longs flirtations with Les Miles prove to be a useful distraction… for his pursuit of another out-of-work coach. Kansas hires former Rice, Tulsa, Pittsburgh and Arizona State head coach Todd Graham.
Wasting no time, newly-installed Vanderbilt AD Boo Corrigan dismisses Derek Mason after the Commodores drop a 21-7 decision to Tennessee, finishing the year at 4-8 and 1-7 in SEC play.
A 5-0 start turning into a 5-7 finishes leads Colorado AD Rick George to dismiss head coach Mike MacIntyre.
JOBS FILLED: Kansas, Bowling Green
NEW OPENINGS: Akron, Central Michigan, Colorado, Connecticut, East Carolina, Kansas State, Louisville, North Carolina, Rutgers, Texas State, UNLV, USC, Vanderbilt
JOBS STILL OPEN: Louisville, Maryland
Total openings: 17
That list does not have a lot of big time competition for a HC. USC right now is the only Big Time program on that list and they will hire Del Rio. May be a good year to hire someone. Last year - Florida, Florida State, UCLA, Ole Miss, Arizona, ASU, Texas A&M, Nebraska, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Oregon, - lots of P5 programs making changes. Of course the landscape could change with a couple of dominoes falling.
DrunkRalphie
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He must hate free agency in the NFL.
BerkeleyBuff
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Sorry if I missed it, but anyone have any idea what it would cost to get Matt Campbell?
Get in line.
We would be behind Ohio State and USC on Matt Campbell.
An act of God.
Sounds like he's not leaving unless tOSU calls (or possibly a similar opportunity that would pay him elite money). I think CU could get him to listen if we offered $7-$8M per along with $3-$4M per for the assistant pool.
BerkeleyBuff
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KU job looks like either Graham or Littrell.
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article221386500.html
LAWRENCE
The Kansas head coaching search picked up intrigue Thursday as a private plane landed at Lawrence Municipal Airport, with KU athletic director Jeff Long and deputy AD Sean Lester stepping onto the runway late Thursday afternoon.
Long did not speak to reporters gathered at the airport, but his presence on the plane verified some details on his search to bring in KU football’s next leader.
According to the website “Flight Aware,” the plane Long had been on went from Phoenix to Dallas to Lawrence. The site originally had a planned stop in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, but a source confirmed Thursday that trip had been canceled, which made the final leg of the trip from Dallas to Lawrence instead.
So, knowing that, let the speculation begin.
Former Arizona State coach Todd Graham could be of interest in the Phoenix area. Graham compiled a 46-32 record in six seasons at Arizona State before getting fired following last year’s 7-6 campaign. He could fit the mold of what Long is looking for as someone who could immediately hit the recruiting trail without a current job.
Another possibility: Long could have been meeting with donors, as in the past, KU Athletics has held important booster meetings in that city.
For Dallas ... North Texas coach Seth Littrell has been mentioned as a potential KU candidate, though there have been mixed media reports on whether he would be interested. Could SMU coach Sonny Dykes be involved? Or could it have been a meeting with a potential coach’s agent?
The tie to Baton Rouge — even if the plane didn’t go there Thursday — is obvious.
Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/c...of-kansas/article221386500.html#storylink=cpy
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article221386500.html
LAWRENCE
The Kansas head coaching search picked up intrigue Thursday as a private plane landed at Lawrence Municipal Airport, with KU athletic director Jeff Long and deputy AD Sean Lester stepping onto the runway late Thursday afternoon.
Long did not speak to reporters gathered at the airport, but his presence on the plane verified some details on his search to bring in KU football’s next leader.
According to the website “Flight Aware,” the plane Long had been on went from Phoenix to Dallas to Lawrence. The site originally had a planned stop in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, but a source confirmed Thursday that trip had been canceled, which made the final leg of the trip from Dallas to Lawrence instead.
So, knowing that, let the speculation begin.
Former Arizona State coach Todd Graham could be of interest in the Phoenix area. Graham compiled a 46-32 record in six seasons at Arizona State before getting fired following last year’s 7-6 campaign. He could fit the mold of what Long is looking for as someone who could immediately hit the recruiting trail without a current job.
Another possibility: Long could have been meeting with donors, as in the past, KU Athletics has held important booster meetings in that city.
For Dallas ... North Texas coach Seth Littrell has been mentioned as a potential KU candidate, though there have been mixed media reports on whether he would be interested. Could SMU coach Sonny Dykes be involved? Or could it have been a meeting with a potential coach’s agent?
The tie to Baton Rouge — even if the plane didn’t go there Thursday — is obvious.
Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/c...of-kansas/article221386500.html#storylink=cpy
ahoelsken
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I like Todd Graham, and I'd be alright with him here, but that's an odd fit-Kansas needs to do something different with their identity.....Triple Option or something like it. If they try and run spread because the rest of that league does it, they're not going to be much better than they are now. If I'm Jeff Long, I don't end my search without talking to Jeff Monken from Army.
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Does the canceled trip to visit Miles mean another school has jumped to the front of his line and he told Kansas nevermind? Is that school CU?
Miles is playing the game guys. He needs to be actively looking for work to keep getting paid. He isn't going to a dumpster fire just to work.
ahoelsken
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If he wins and doesn't get in trouble with the NCAA, he could say in a press conference "I voted for Trump" and no Buff fan would care. I just don't want to be his next Tennessee. If he becomes a free agent, we have to call.
He's keeping the LSU buyout cash coming. Why would he go coach at a school that doesn't play on natural grass?
ScottyBuff
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Louisville is going to be the more lucrative job right now; over CU. They are desperate, have way more recent success, and have a bigger pocket book. They historically pay top 25 $ to the head coach.
CU has been in the #40s with MikeMac ($2.9m/year) and were even lower before that.
We would need to pay $4m+ to get a "top 25" coach. Not suggesting that just paying someone lots of money guarantees success; see Scott Frost, Willie Taggert, Lovie Smith, but those are much more the exception than the rule. As far as teams in the top 15 that aren't paying over $3.5m/year, the only one is UCF with Josh Heupel ($1.7m/year).
Here are current salaries for candidates (not just at CU):
Les Miles - unemployed $4.4m/year (from LSU contract) - would rank 18th if still active.
Matt Campbell - IowaSt HC $3.5m/year ($19.3m buyout) - ranks tied for 35th currently.
Charlie Strong - USF HC $2.5m/year starting in 2019
Dave Aranda - LSU DC $2.5m/year (100% guaranteed for 4 years; regardless of Orgeron's status)
Luke Fickell - Cin HC $2.4m/year ($2.8m buyout)
Dino Babers - Syr HC $2.4m/year (no reported buyout; however private school)
Jim Leavitt - Oregon DC $1.7m/year
Greg Schiano - tOSU DC $1.5m/year
Seth Littrell - UNT HC $1.4m/year ($4.4m buyout)
Ken Norton Jr - Seahawks DC ~$1.2m (how fun would that game against a Del Rio led USC be!)
Jimmy Lake - UW DC $1.1m/year ($2.2m buyout only applies to Pac-12 coordinator role; $0 buyout as HC)
Tosh Lupoi - Bama DC $1.1m/year
Neal Brown - Troy HC $800k/year (contract has a $3m buyout to school)
Alex Grinch - tOSU AHC $800k/year
Chip Long - ND OC - not reported
Lance Anderson - Stan DC - not reported
CU has been in the #40s with MikeMac ($2.9m/year) and were even lower before that.
We would need to pay $4m+ to get a "top 25" coach. Not suggesting that just paying someone lots of money guarantees success; see Scott Frost, Willie Taggert, Lovie Smith, but those are much more the exception than the rule. As far as teams in the top 15 that aren't paying over $3.5m/year, the only one is UCF with Josh Heupel ($1.7m/year).
Here are current salaries for candidates (not just at CU):
Les Miles - unemployed $4.4m/year (from LSU contract) - would rank 18th if still active.
Matt Campbell - IowaSt HC $3.5m/year ($19.3m buyout) - ranks tied for 35th currently.
Charlie Strong - USF HC $2.5m/year starting in 2019
Dave Aranda - LSU DC $2.5m/year (100% guaranteed for 4 years; regardless of Orgeron's status)
Luke Fickell - Cin HC $2.4m/year ($2.8m buyout)
Dino Babers - Syr HC $2.4m/year (no reported buyout; however private school)
Jim Leavitt - Oregon DC $1.7m/year
Greg Schiano - tOSU DC $1.5m/year
Seth Littrell - UNT HC $1.4m/year ($4.4m buyout)
Ken Norton Jr - Seahawks DC ~$1.2m (how fun would that game against a Del Rio led USC be!)
Jimmy Lake - UW DC $1.1m/year ($2.2m buyout only applies to Pac-12 coordinator role; $0 buyout as HC)
Tosh Lupoi - Bama DC $1.1m/year
Neal Brown - Troy HC $800k/year (contract has a $3m buyout to school)
Alex Grinch - tOSU AHC $800k/year
Chip Long - ND OC - not reported
Lance Anderson - Stan DC - not reported
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Off that list, Dino Babers, Seth Litrell, and Tosh Lupoi are the most interesting to me.
-Dino Babers has lots of West Coast connections and some in Texas. Has a good decensive record/background as well as offer sive and has head coach experience.
-Seth Litrell has some West Coast connections but seems a little more unproven. He has experience on the offensive side and head coaching.
-Tosh Lupoi would be quite interesting from a recruiting and defense standpoint but he might not be ready for a head coaching gig.
-Dino Babers has lots of West Coast connections and some in Texas. Has a good decensive record/background as well as offer sive and has head coach experience.
-Seth Litrell has some West Coast connections but seems a little more unproven. He has experience on the offensive side and head coaching.
-Tosh Lupoi would be quite interesting from a recruiting and defense standpoint but he might not be ready for a head coaching gig.
I don’t get the Seth Littrell love. The big knock on HCMM was his inexperience at the P5 level and inability to build a staff around him. Littrell seems to have those same question marks and more.
I don’t want to see CU take a gamble on someone “up and coming”. Just get a guy who has proven he can do the job.
I don’t want to see CU take a gamble on someone “up and coming”. Just get a guy who has proven he can do the job.
Louisville is actually not as good financially as they’ve been in the past since Papa John is no longer allowed to be around and the Pitino stuff has a lot of outside $ scared.
Nuclear Winter Part Deux update now has the predictions of what happens through mid-December. http://footballscoop.com/news/footballscoops-nuclear-winter-iv/
With Mike MacIntyre out, Colorado returns to the coordinator that spurned the program’s brief 2016 revival. Jim Leavitt returns to Boulder as head coach, but not before ensuring that, yes, CU is a Pepsi campus.
mehNuclear Winter Part Deux update now has the predictions of what happens through mid-December. http://footballscoop.com/news/footballscoops-nuclear-winter-iv/
With Mike MacIntyre out, Colorado returns to the coordinator that spurned the program’s brief 2016 revival. Jim Leavitt returns to Boulder as head coach, but not before ensuring that, yes, CU is a Pepsi campus.
I think CU is Leavitt's last and only shot at a P5 HC gig. Oregon's ****ty defense this year really cost him and he isn't going to get the KSU job. I wouldn't hate Leavitt as HC here, but he's way down the list of candidates.
