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2020 Draft Buffs
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Alabama is all in on Football! Not even hiding the Student-Athlete thing anymore.
NFL-G league
What was Montez’s Wonderlic? I saw an article and it was not listed?
I don’t think he took it - there was an article about Tua having the lowest score of the 20 QBs who took it and Montez wasn’t one of them. He probably overslept.
somebody
Well-Known Member
Or frat party takes precedence.
vinniew_11
Well-Known Member
I think Brown gets a look in the 6th or 7th
Whomever sent out that note didn’t black out his personal information very well.
I mean, Rapoport shouldn't have tweeted it out without double checking and blacking it out himself if it wasn't him. He basically just doxxed him.
Not that this isn't anything new, but the fact the past two coaching staffs absolutely refused to play anyone else other than Montez the past two years is a massive indictment on the QB's coming back on the roster. CU absolutely needs a transfer at the position. Can't go all in on one guy
I think it’s equally an indictment of Montez’ temperament.
Agreed
The best players, regardless of sport, work their ass off. Do they dick around off the field or court, sure, they're human. Montez never struck me as the type that did that, the first part anyway.
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
He's one of those guys with massive physical talents, who always got by just on his talent, so he never learned work ethic. He's somehow gotten all the way to potentially being drafted despite is. I doubt he learns how now, which means he probably won't last long in the league.
The bit about not really understanding the nuances of the game after 39 starts is so cringeworthy.
Exactly, the complete game, he doesn't have. Unless I missed where hell froze over.
True. Trust me, that can happen to a football player in El Paso. The talent there is damn near non existent. Guys here and there, sure. As a whole, it's pretty much crap. Edward Scissorhands could win the HS Heisman there.
GuySmiley
Don't Drink the Kool-Aid
From the QB list, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Tua, and then Eason. For Eason, I sort of see the Jake Locker trajectory, Eason did not show me a ton last year but I guess he could be a decent backup--it depends where he goes in the draft. I don't really put too much stock into the Wonderlick, but I think coming off the injury and just how punishing BAMA was last year, I think Tua is going to find difficulty adjusting to the speed of the pro game. That said, it is hard to knock his college numbers.
@Duffman, do you think Montez is drafted? If so, what is his over-under on years, practice squad included? Do you think that he ever sees an NFL field in any regular season game?
Totally agree with @4BeinemyTDs on Fromm's arm stregnth, but he may go in rounds 5-7 and hold a clipboard for many years.
@Duffman, do you think Montez is drafted? If so, what is his over-under on years, practice squad included? Do you think that he ever sees an NFL field in any regular season game?
Totally agree with @4BeinemyTDs on Fromm's arm stregnth, but he may go in rounds 5-7 and hold a clipboard for many years.
WTF?
GuySmiley
Don't Drink the Kool-Aid
I just don't see it with Tua. He had 2 1st rounders to throw to, the BAMA running game was the same as it always is (good-great, but not needed), and the BAMA line was great too. If he goes in the top-10 overall, which I think he will, I can see a bust. That is not to say he was not an incredible college player. Do you think he goes in the top-10 overall?
Do you see it with Joe Burrow? Last I checked, he also had a pretty solid team around him last season, which was his only season worth mentioning. Tua is a complete stud and had it not been for his hip, there would be a major debate about whether he or Burrow would be going number one.
Btw, the hip recovery shouldn't be an issue. He's not starting in 2020 (or whenever this season plays out) anyways. He'll have a RS year to learn and get back to 100%, so I highly doubt he drops out of the top 5, and if he does, you're talking about the best value in the entire draft
GuySmiley
Don't Drink the Kool-Aid
Actually, I think with Burrow and he might go either way too. Same concerns--great team and he has less of a resume. In the inury stuff on Tua, he had a number of injuries in his career, not just the hip. Tua is a good value in the draft, and given his upside some team will take that chance. Only time will tell if either guy is a star or a bust.
I think having Tua and Eason tied together is insane. If Tua drops to the 25th pick it is insane to tie him to Eason.
Your rational for dinging Tua should be exactly the same for Burrow as well.
So you'd rather have a QB who played on a mediocre to crappy team and didn't win much, than one who played on a talented team and won at the highest level while being a primary reason for it. Sounds like Jay Cutler and Steven Montez are your guys
Tua could drop into mid/low first round. His current injury + injury history + lack of physical access to him = higher uncertainty.
And yet he didn't get a perfect score.
GuySmiley
Don't Drink the Kool-Aid
I'm not tying them together, as they will go nowhere close to each other in the draft. One in projected to be a franchise player, the other is going to be a project/potential for the future. The question posed was which guys do you think may be a bust and the QB list was in the thread. IMO, those are the guys, who I picked. People have different opinions and those are being expressed.
Tua and Burrow are different players from different schools, so the rationale does not have to be exactly the same for both. Tua has injury concerns, Burrow does not. Also, if your post on Tua is correct and he does fall to mid-late 1st round, his expectations are much lower. The Bust guys are typically the ones who go in the Top-10 and do not pan out for one reason or another aka... Tony Mand-sandwich; but the Broncos did draft Ted Gregory who was like 5" shorter than advertised.
Can we at least agree that Skita (the Nuggets) was the biggest draft sports bust in Denver history. Steven A Smith-- "[shaking head and rolling eyes] . . . whew, that boy just cannot play."