OK, so no he didn't really say that. But he's probably thinking it right about now.
Given Hawk's record at BSU, I would say he easily qualifies as one of the biggest, if the not the biggest, coaching hire busts of recent memory. I doubt Bohn is very happy with his decision right now. Hawk has put alot of pressure on MB
C'mon, that's ridiculous. Hawk's win-loss record could hardly be worse, but he's recruited OK and if he's fired, the program won't be in dire straits. Compare that to the train wreck left at Washington after the Neuheisal/Willingham cluster ****. What about Ron Prince? Gene Chizik at ISU? That's just off the top of my head.
Wins matter, and I assume Hawk will lose his job because he has too few, but other things matter as well and on those things Hawk gets good grades. I think anybody who would rather have a couple of 10 win seasons with a Neuheisal and accept all the other damage done is crazy.
And before the Hawk eradication folks jump down my throat, I do realize that CU deserves a coach who wins and does all the other things to build a program and that those coaches exist and CU can find one. That doesn't mean we need to ignore the positive things that the current coaches
have done and leave behind.
If you consider recruiting being in the 40's every year okay. The 2008 #15 Rivals class has dropped to that level too, having lost a 5, 4, and 2 3 star players from it.
I have no problem thinking that these players are capable of winning 7-9 games with a good coach and staff.Yes, recruiting could've been better, but there's none of the wacky lack of lineman, etc. that we've seen in the past. Also, I don't think you can complain about Major, Miller, Givens, and Kasa coming to CU.
I'm just sayin' that the win/loss record, while depressing and ultimately inexcusable, doesn't mean that everything the guy touched was crap. I'm thinking [and hoping] that in a year or two, if CU hires the right coach, we may all be looking back and saying how grateful we are for Hawk's recruits.
I agree with NYC. If Hawk is fired, he has upgraded the talent level on the team. I think we have pretty solid talent almost everywhere now. Really young still but solid. As for the recruiting rankings? In my not-so-humble opinion this is really paint-by-number infotainment for football novices so that they can feel some level of intelligence since they lack a basic knowledge of the fundamentals. High recruiting classes have not helped Charlie Weiss the last couple of years. Also, if the last 5 years of recruiting rankings are taken as "gospel", USC shouldn't lose a game until 2013.C'mon, that's ridiculous. Hawk's win-loss record could hardly be worse, but he's recruited OK and if he's fired, the program won't be in dire straits. Compare that to the train wreck left at Washington after the Neuheisal/Willingham cluster ****. What about Ron Prince? Gene Chizik at ISU? That's just off the top of my head.
Wins matter, and I assume Hawk will lose his job because he has too few, but other things matter as well and on those things Hawk gets good grades. I think anybody who would rather have a couple of 10 win seasons with a Neuheisal and accept all the other damage done is crazy.
And before the Hawk eradication folks jump down my throat, I do realize that CU deserves a coach who wins and does all the other things to build a program and that those coaches exist and CU can find one. That doesn't mean we need to ignore the positive things that the current coaches
have done and leave behind.
NOIt was a joke, people. Chill.
It was a joke, people. Chill.
Did you take your Vitamin D today, Rugged? I had the same kind of day yesterday but they have not linked the forensic evidence to me at this point. :wow:Honestly I'm sick and ****ing tired of people only coming to allbuffs to make jokes about things. It's just ridiculous. I can't read one thread without someone making a joke then five other people piping in their own stupid ****ing comebacks or FIFY's. I come here to read about and discuss CU athletics, not laugh and frolick in a field. There's a "new jokes" thread for a ****ing reason. Go post jokes over there if you don't care about talking seriously. ****ing ****.
Honestly I'm sick and ****ing tired of people only coming to allbuffs to make jokes about things. It's just ridiculous. I can't read one thread without someone making a joke then five other people piping in their own stupid ****ing comebacks or FIFY's. I come here to read about and discuss CU athletics, not laugh and frolick in a field. There's a "new jokes" thread for a ****ing reason. Go post jokes over there if you don't care about talking seriously. ****ing ****.
Joke or not, this quote is an instant classic, "I come here to read about and discuss CU athletics, not laugh and frolick in a field." :lol:Is this a joke?, if so....:laugh:
If not,:laugh:
Joke or not, this quote is an instant classic, "I come here to read about and discuss CU athletics, not laugh and frolick in a field." :lol:
quality ****. (like seriously, that post was comparable to a snaker)Joke or not, this quote is an instant classic, "I come here to read about and discuss CU athletics, not laugh and frolick in a field." :lol:
I think someone needs to post it in it's own thread. I am too lazy and lack the basic skills necessary to do this since I am over 35 years of age. I recommend something like, "Rough and Rugged: A contrarian view of humor." SnowBuff I picture you as an enterprising young 20-something not unlike my own employees. Sounds like a great task for you, brother.quality ****. (like seriously, that post was comparable to a snaker)
Honestly I'm sick and ****ing tired of people only coming to allbuffs to make jokes about things. It's just ridiculous. I can't read one thread without someone making a joke then five other people piping in their own stupid ****ing comebacks or FIFY's. I come here to read about and discuss CU athletics, not laugh and frolick in a field. There's a "new jokes" thread for a ****ing reason. Go post jokes over there if you don't care about talking seriously. ****ing ****.
You got the 20 something right.. :wink2:I think someone needs to post it in it's own thread. I am too lazy and lack the basic skills necessary to do this since I am over 35 years of age. I recommend something like, "Rough and Rugged: A contrarian view of humor." SnowBuff I picture you as an enterprising young 20-something not unlike my own employees. Sounds like a great task for you, brother.
Did you take your Vitamin D today, Rugged? I had the same kind of day yesterday but they have not linked the forensic evidence to me at this point. :wow:
Is this a joke?, if so....:laugh:
If not,:laugh:
Brother, your secret is safe with me. :smile2: You deserve a reward for the "frolick in the field" comment. Anyone who can use the word "frolick" while feigning anger is clearly an internet "outlier."Come on now. 95% of my posts aren't serious. You two just don't know me very well, do you? :sad1::smile2:
Thanks for inspiring my new avatar!
Brother, your secret is safe with me. :smile2: You deserve a reward for the "frolick in the field" comment. Anyone who can use the word "frolick" while feigning anger is clearly an internet "outlier."
Honestly I'm sick and ****ing tired of people only coming to allbuffs to make jokes about things. It's just ridiculous. I can't read one thread without someone making a joke then five other people piping in their own stupid ****ing comebacks or FIFY's. I come here to read about and discuss CU athletics, not laugh and frolick in a field. There's a "new jokes" thread for a ****ing reason. Go post jokes over there if you don't care about talking seriously. ****ing ****.
If we can't laugh, we may cry.